Manga/Dragon Ball

Well video games just ran with the "No nonsense fighter" angle; just compare the quotes between his original self and his new self in that video.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

I guess. It's just weird that Gogeta is one of the things people remember most about Fusion Reborn when he's barely in it. Gotenks is in Fusion Reborn more than Gogeta is!

I've actually heard speculation that some of the Universe 2 fighters were based on GT villains: Zirloin as Rilldo, Ranbara as Baby, Zarbuto as Myuu, and the magical girls as the Para Brothers. Wonder if there's anything to that.

He made the most of those two minutes.

He fucking won.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I ain't even seen the movie, but I gotta agree on that.

Got the job done despite being supposedly weaker (or at least less stable) than Vegetto. Like we've discussed before, it helps that he knows his time is limited, so he has zero reason to fuck around.

One Strip! One Strip!

I've seen the fight and once it starts, there isn't a word from Gogeta beyond calling out attack moves.

This song needs more love.

They aren't Tuffles in the same way Androids 8, 19 and 16 are not human...but the important thing is that Xenoverse Gogeta stole Meta Knight's Super Smash Bros Brawl win quote! Ha, Gogeta wishes he could be that much of a Game-Breaker!

Well, Meta Knight had one of the worst win-loss ratios of Brawl's Online because a lot of players just heard he was good but didn't know how to use him well(Ike, of course, had the worst), and the lag cut away half of his advantages. Maybe Gogeta can have a better overall win ratio, but he won't have his own character tier.

Oh shit.

The silent ones are always the most deadly.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 19th 2018 at 9:49:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Oh, I remember one of Gogeta's lines from "Fusion Reborn".

Those two sentences establish that not only is Gogeta stronger than his components, but that he has a higher understanding of things. He then proceeds to obliterate the demon while leaving the boy it possessed unharmed. It may just be the coolest sequence in all the non serial movies and is one of the reasons I consider "Fusion Reborn" to be one of the few legitimately good ones, alongside "World's Strongest" and "Dead Zone"(and "Dead Zone" is just barely "good". It rips off Piccolo and Piccolo Jr so hard it hurts, but the scene where Goku and the real Piccolo Jr team up to kick his ass justifies the entire thing's run time.

"Wrath Of The Dragon" and that one with the vampire that wants to destroy the sun are perfectly watchable, but their flaws are just too much for me truly consider them "good". "Fusion Reborn" is the best Darkstalkers adaptation ever though. Gogeta does to Janemba what merged!Morrigan would obviously do to Jedah and or his "Antichrist child" in the legitimate third game we never got. Goku is 2/3rds!Morrigan, strong but not quite strong enough. Vegeta is Lilith, a stagnant and stunted immature spirit that only exists due to the villain's mischief and acts only on primitive desire. Gogeta is the fully restored successor to Makai's throne we never go to play as, so you leave him alone Pushover!

Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on Dec 19th 2018 at 12:08:22 PM

Is Dragon Ball an example of Women Are Wiser? A little off topic on Gogeta sorry 😐.

Not very much I think. The guys are a bit more rash though.

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My first thought on that is instances of Chi-Chi talking about how her kids shouldn't be fighters because it isn't productive, because they need money to live, which I think she's broadly right about because in any other genre or setting Goku's constant training would never be helpful or useful and he'd just be a bum. A very fit bum, but a bum.

She's not very genre savvy, but her complaints financially and socially are valid and right-on.

My first thought also includes Bulma wanting to kill Gero right away instead of waiting for a fight.

Bulma and Chi-Chi are broadly right there, in those instances.

But then Chi-Chi gets a windfall from Satan in Super and immediately goes to spend it on fashion instead of investing it, like a gold-digger, and Bulma in general does a lot of dumb shit, like trying to bang the desert bandit yamcha, the evil general blue, whatever Zarbon is, and finally vegeta, she and Jaco constantly antagonize each other, and she uses the Dragon Balls frivolously for the dumbest things.

And those are just the things I remember without actively trying to be thinking about them.

Nobody is wise in DB. Just varying levels of stupid.

One Strip! One Strip!

False, there's Gohan. He's a scholar and everything!

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae

I mean, he's smart, leaving things to his dad who likes training and fighting and is good for it, and thanks to Saiyan biology still young enough that he doesn't need a successor, the dumb part is when he keeps trying to join in the action.

Just. You found a niche, stay in it.

will Goten's niche be spreading Saiyan genes everywhere?

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hey it's not his fault, it's his fans fault that they keep forcing him into that position.

Also, new manga chapter dropped

¡PONLE QUE DIGA!:"¡HUMONGOSAURIO HASTA LA MUERTE!"

So the movie has sold more than 1-million tickets in 6 days.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-20/dragon-ball-super-broly-anime-film-surpasses-1-million-tickets-sold-in-japan/.141083

Making a total of more than 1.3-billion yen at the moment (which is 11.6-million American).

Lets see if it can get that coveted 5-billion mark.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

New manga? Look, it's an AF villain.

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Manga chapter is up on Viz's website.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

New chapter I guess.

Starts off with a flashback 10 million years ago, South and Dai Kaioshin are locked in battle with Wizard Goat. He's throwing meteors at them, and Wizard Goat has the ability to drain the life-force from entire planets and eat it to power up, like a Spirit Bomb of evil. The Galactic Police (one of whom is one of Jaco's species) are nearby, and they exposit that Wizard Goat is Planet-Eater Moro, who has destroyed the Iragi system and extincted 320 planets of all life.

Dai Kaioshin uses something kind of like a Godly Mafuba to seal Moro's magic away in exchange for most of his godly power. Moro's still got a high power level even without his magic, so he's apparently too durable for the Galactic Patrol to execute, so they've just had him in a cell ever since. Goku and Vegeta apparently didn't know that Buu absorbed Dai Kaioshin, and Buu won't wake up, so Goku volunteers himself and Vegeta to help find Moro. Goku starts babbling about Broly and Vegeta's suspicious of Merus's skill and technique, for whatever reason.

Galactic King shows up and Goku grabs his dick again. Goku and Vegeta are appointed as members of the Galactic Patrol. Goku doesn't want to wear the Galactic Patrol uniforms, so they just draw the symbol on their normal uniforms in marker. Goku, Vegeta, Jaco, and Merus go out to hunt down a group known as the "Marcareni siblings". They're stealing a train full of fuel, and Merus handles the whole thing easily. Goku and Jaco help a little, but Merus didn't really need their help, and Vegeta accuses him of hiding his power level. They find Moro, and Goku tries tracking his ki. Moro seems to notice Goku sensing his ki from across space, and Goku is shocked.

Like, the basic events of the plot seem okay (except for the fact that it looks like Buu will be sitting out yet another arc), but nothing here is really grabbing me. The fight between Moro and the Kaioshin is pretty boring, both setting-wise and technique-wise, and I wish the North and West Kaioshin had also been involved. Goku and Vegeta joining the Galactic Patrol is kind of fun, but it happens really fast and a lot of transitions are just skipped over. The train robbery is also fairly boring, Merus doesn't even do anything cool when that was clearly a scene meant to establish how cool he is.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 20th 2018 at 2:40:54 AM

You think Moro is a Superior Successor to Bibidi?

It's nice to have a villain who's a threat beyond just what their power level is tbh.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

Lots of references to the Broly movie in this chapter (and one to the TOP/Jiren).

-Vegeta is referred to as Vegeta IV.

-When Merus says that Goku and Vegeta are really powerful, Goku says he's not sure about that, because there are people [ningen?] stronger than them "out in the universes"; considering Toppo and Kale/Kefla are at best on par with them in this version, this can only be really referring to Jiren and Broly.

-After that he mentions they also just met a really strong fellow Saiyan.

-The way Goku intercepts the bandits is similar to the way he intercepts Freeza's men in their ship.

Also, as I suspected, Vegeta confirmed that Buu wasn't stunned, he was already asleep, and will be for some more days at least. This confirms that the Broly movie, the Tournament of Power, and El Cabron Demoniaco arc all take place in the same two-month timespan. As Buu fell asleep in the lead-up to the TOP, and it was stated he wouldn't wake up for 2 months. Buckle in, the timeline's getting ultra-compressed.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Dec 20th 2018 at 3:11:30 AM

Hearing GSK voluntarily gave up most of his power is interesting. Who wants to bet that's the only reason he lost to Buu, and his full strength is on par with his destructive counterpart?