German Politics Thread

Is that even legal? I thought that a finder is entitled to 5% of the founded item as a reward.

Frankly, I am kind of shocked that Merz still has so much support. Granted, the voters have a short memory, but at this point I would have expected him to be out of the race, just based on who the guy actually is.

But then, Schröder was chosen to be Chancellor. By the SPD, which is supposedly a leftist party. So...yeah.

He is, but, well, someone living on the street would hardly be able to afford a lawyer, or had any way to officially ask for it. The 5% are more a matter of "yeah, that's roughly what you should give" and not really a matter of something which is usually enforced by law - if it is even enforceable in the first place. There are a few laws like this. Ie there is a law that you are supposed to ask your neighbour for permission before you build a garden shed close to the border, but if you don't do it, well, your Neighbour is not able to actually force you to remove it again.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:10:11 AM

Finder's fee can be demanded but under the BGB text, the finder in this case did not ask for it, Merz was not legally required to pay it.

Schröder looked a lot saner at the beginning of it all <.< And imagine the B Option. Chancellor Lafontaine.

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:09:52 PM

How about a sane C-option? I mean, I am not really pro AKK, but at least she is a sane option (for a conservative). What exactly was hindering the SPD to find someone else?

And in Schröder's case, his marriages alone were a red flag. To be clear here, I am not a prude, it happens that people divorce and find their happiness with someone else eventually. Merkel herself is such a case. But if someone has a string of x-wives and lovers, he most likely isn't the most trustworthy person in the world.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:13:43 AM

Schröder had at least the right CV, he made it to the top despite starting from the bottom of the ladder. This is the only thing I can deem sympathic about him anymore.

Schröder made sense on paper. He was charismatic, a highly succesful politician and arguably just as important, an obvious visual and personal contrast to Kohl.

Edited by Zarastro on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:13:43 PM

And to be fair, we just had 16 years of Kohl...I'm sure a Goat as Chancellor would have been preferable to him going for the 20 years <.<

Schröder was a massive case of Horrible in Hindsight.

Intra Party politics? Same reason we still have Horst Seehofer and Ursula von der Leyen in Government.

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:15:01 PM

That's true...those were dark times for the CDU, they should have never allowed Kohn to run a fifth time, nor should they have run Stöber of all people in the next election. It is as if they were looking for candidates worse than Schröder.

Well, neither of them are currently campaigning for party leadership. Quite the opposite in the case of Seehofer.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:16:18 AM

Yeah but five years ago, Von der Leyen would have been the AKK of the day. *shudders* My point is...timing plays it's point. Shit comes to the top at some point, and at that point it hadn't for Schröder.

It's easy to condemn him (and I wholeheartedly join in on that) now, but back then? We didn't know it.

And I remain convinced that Stoiber was Merkel pulling a Wronski Feint, like Kohl did with Strauß.

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:19:38 PM

I couldn't stand him from the get go, so I have a slightly different perspective. And I say that as someone who actually voted for him once because the alternative was so much worse. Dark times. (Stoiber was Merkel reading the terrain and knowing perfectly well that if she fought him, she would lose, so she rather stood back and waited for her opportunity).

I wonder if the Greens will have a chancellor candidate for the next election.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:22:57 AM

...Depends on how the next few State Elections go. If they do well enough, they might just. But if not, a Chancellor candidate might be a bad PR move. If they do, I guess Kretschmar is the frontrunner? He's the one Green with actual Government leadership experience.

Or maybe pig's fly and the State Lefts finally boot out the Federal Left leadership <.<

(I know a few State Left Politicans who I can respect but I *loathe* the Federal Leadership.)

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:24:54 PM

Die Linke isn't pro-European enough for my taste and waaaay too much in love with Russia to feel comfortable with them.

Or are you talking about the SPD? The SPD will most likely run Scholz.

I think you mean Kretschmann, not Kretschmer.

Kretschmann is the only Green politician I'd want as chancellor, but I doubt he has enough support within his party to become the candidate. A large part of the Green party is simply too dogmatic for him.

Calling the Left party not pro-European enough is the understatement of the year.

Edited by Zarastro on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:48:17 PM

Yeah, mixed up his name.

I mean more that there are parts of the Left, mostly on the State level, which are actually not bad. But the Federal Level is basically a lost cause at this point. I'd kinda wish for the former to oust the former, and especially purge the last SED-fanciers in itself.

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:48:51 PM

Something that happens to me, and I live in Ba Wü. I blame the Chemnitz incident for that

Hey, I still have to google if that Höcke arsehole is named Björn or Bernd most times

That is because of the Heute Show

Frankly, I don't care. I don't have enough respect for him to worry about using his correct name.

German right-wing AfD party fears radicalization of youth wing

Colour me shocked.

Now I am wondering how bad their youth ring has to be when the already bat-shit crazy leadership is worried about it....

They aren't throwing them under the Bus because they are too radical, but because they are drawing the ire of the Verfassungsschutz. It's the Af D sacrificing it's youth to protect their own asses.

I mean, there was the whole thing about their logo a while ago.

Did those youths skipped school or something?

More likely they knew, and didn't give a damn, or deliberately put it to get notoriety.

That they're expelling "radicals" because the BfV is cracking down on them shows they were more than willing to keep undesirable elements as long as it suited their purposes and they didn't get caught - as if it wasn't obvious enough which ideology they're leaning towards.

Well, to be fair, I wouldn't know how the logo of the Sturmführer looked either. If it had been any other party, I think we would have all assumed that this is an accident. On the other hand if they had wanted to play it off as one, the obvious question would have been "and where is the fD"? and "Why the circle even though the Af D usually uses a rectangle"?

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 26th 2018 at 2:05:50 AM

Germany: Seehofer: Muslims in Germany should prevent foreign influence

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Nov 27th 2018 at 5:36:32 PM