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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:09:28 PM

Not sure where to put this, since it encompasses almost all forms of media, but I'm looking for reccomendations.

As I mentioned on another thread; I am OBSESSED with villains. I'm looking for films/anime/video games/books/manga/cartoons etc that have fantastic villains!

What's my definition of a fantastic villain? I'm a massive fan of Chessmasters, Magnificent Bastards, Hammy villains, Well Intentioned Extremists. Anti-Villains. Stuff of that ilk. My number one criteria though, is that the villain needs to be competent and on par with the hero in some way.

No Villain Protagonists. I can't stand them.

Sorry if I'm sounding like a jerk. I'm just bored and looking for stuff to watch/do [lol]

edited 17th Jan '12 2:09:38 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:35:57 PM

Obvious answer: Professor Moriarty, the classic Chessmaster.

Have you seen A Game of Shadows yet? I think that did a decent job of making him threatening.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:39:55 PM

[up] Oh FUCK yes!! [lol]

Game of Shadows was awesome for PRECISELY that reason

"Come now... you really think you're the only one who can play this game?"

edited 17th Jan '12 2:43:44 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#4: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:40:31 PM

Definitely seconding Moriarty. He's brilliantly done in A Game of Shadows. Makes him seem like a credible and ruthless nemesis to Holmes, as well as disturbingly competent.

I guess we could go... wherever we please.
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#5: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:43:22 PM

^^ Dat line. It just floored me when I saw it in the cinema.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:44:05 PM

[up] In a good way or in a bad way? [lol]

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#7: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:45:30 PM

Yes. That line was amazing. Really cemented him in my mind as a fantastic villain.

I guess we could go... wherever we please.
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#8: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:46:01 PM

^^ In the best way ever. It was like "now we're doing things for REAL!"

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#9: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:49:07 PM

I have tons of love for Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks (Although Windom Earle doesn't join the cast until the last quarter of the show, the chess game between Cooper and him with life's at stakes i truly a sight to behold)

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#10: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:54:52 PM

[up][up] I pretty much have that whole fight memorized... because it's AWESOME!! [lol]

"Let's not waste anymore of eachother's time. We both know how this ends."

[up] Isn't Blue Velvet the film with the guy who inhales ether to get high or something? (I remember hearing about it in Bravo's top 100 scariest movie moments)

edited 17th Jan '12 2:55:46 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#11: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:55:52 PM

Death Note.

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#12: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:57:53 PM

Isn't Blue Velvet the film with the guy who inhales ether to get high or something? (I remember hearing about it in Bravo's top 100 scariest movie moments)

Yup. He also dry humps Isabella Rosellini. Charming fella, isn't he?

But yeah, David Lynch has a a tendency to write good antagonists, even if they're not always that smart (Twin Peaks main antagonist is just an hedonistic demon, really. Doesn't stop him from being the right mix of scary and enjoyable to watch)

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:59:22 PM

[up][up] One of my favourite animes of all time.

I also said no Villain Protagonists. I can't stand em [lol]

[up] Is he competent?

edited 17th Jan '12 3:00:24 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#14: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:10:59 PM

If you like Doctor Who and haven't seen them yet, you could try Sutekh from "Pyramids of Mars", Scaroth from "City of Death", House from "The Doctor's Wife", Magnus Greel from "The Talons of Weng-Chiang", Lucas Finch from "School Reunion", and, of course, recurring villains the Master and Davros. All excellent villains, and all at least reasonably competent (some very much so).

On the Chessmaster front, Doc Scratch from Homestuck is a good one, IMO.

I'd round off the predictable Bobby post by recommending Discord, but you have a pony in your avatar so there's no point.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#15: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:14:54 PM

[up] Could never get into homestruck sad

I know of all those from Doctor Who. They're all great villains waii

...yes Discord is Brilliant

edited 17th Jan '12 3:15:14 PM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
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#16: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:23:20 PM

Is he competent?

If you mean Bob, well, yeah, he has the benefit of being a demon who possesses people and thus he can hide amongst the living and blah blah blah.

But he's no genius. Or at least, no Windom Earle. wink

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#17: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:24:58 PM

The Smiler from Transmetropolitan. Darkseid from Final Crisis. Adam from Buffy. Angelus from Buffy.

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#18: Jan 17th 2012 at 4:19:06 PM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

And almost any other major villain in that franchise.

edited 17th Jan '12 4:19:50 PM by TheBatPencil

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#20: Jan 17th 2012 at 4:29:37 PM

Metal Gear.

Seeing all these piss ant tropers trying to talk tough makes me laugh. If Matrix were here, he'd laugh too.
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#21: Jan 17th 2012 at 4:58:32 PM

Hans Landa from Inglourious Basterds, if you haven't seen that. One of the best, IMO.

Iago from Othello is a classic scheming villain. I seem to remember Kenneth Branagh's portrayal being pretty good, if very creepy.

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#22: Jan 17th 2012 at 4:59:41 PM

Landa was great. Made a perfect Smug Snake.

Seeing all these piss ant tropers trying to talk tough makes me laugh. If Matrix were here, he'd laugh too.
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#23: Jan 17th 2012 at 5:02:40 PM

Monster

edited 17th Jan '12 5:03:14 PM by dRoy

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#24: Jan 17th 2012 at 6:33:38 PM

This is going to be a really, really weird statement, but the best villain I've seen in a mainstream American movie was in the otherwise forgettable film 16 Blocks. I've seldom seen a Well-Intentioned Extremist be so utterly reasonable—as at least one reviewer observed, it's like no one told the actor that he was playing a bad guy. For a while, it almost makes you wonder if he's right.

edited 17th Jan '12 6:33:58 PM by feotakahari

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#25: Jan 17th 2012 at 8:25:23 PM

Landa?

Is he competent? Smug Snakes aren't usually known for their mastermindness [lol]

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

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