The Fairly Odd Parents and co. created by Butch Hartman!

Oh hey, 1000th post!

Well, yes. That season of the Fairly OddParents is looked back upon in a similar way to seasons 4 and 5 of SpongeBob - hated when they were new, but loved in later years.

Seasons 7 and 8 of the Fairly OddParents are, in my opinion, decent, but you can clearly tell that things started to go downhill in those seasons.

Edited by IvanovTroping97 on Sep 30th 2022 at 9:33:18 PM

People thought Poof killed the show, but in hindsight, he didn't do much.

Poof really just came at a time where the first signs of the series' decline, like the shelving of much of the ensemble cast, were starting to show up. He himself was fine.

Kinda like Scrappy-Doo, actually; he himself was never actually that bad, it's just that the writing overall happened to go downhill after his introduction so people associated that with him.

Edited by lbssb on Sep 30th 2022 at 12:22:22 PM

Heck, Foop should be just as, if not even more, despised than Poof because Foop's introduction is in the first episode of season 7.

That might be because Foop is more forgettable.

Food is pretty disliked because the anti fairies stop existing once he debuts, and he was incredibly overexposed to the point of being the main villain of the third live action movie. He even appears after Poof gets booted in season 10.

Even then, I'd argue at least season 6 (when Poof did show up) still remembered and kept the ensemble relevant like Chester, AJ, Trixie, Francis, Tootie, Anti-Cosmo, and Pixies still being relevant (the former three even being relevant in Wishology, something that wouldn't happen if it were in seasons 7-10) at that point and Vicky still being the main villain. Heck, Mr. Crocker and Timmy's dad weren't even hogging the spotlight there (in fact Cheese and Crockers is the only solo Mr. Crocker episode with his other episodes being team ups).

Foop's appearances didn't start getting that frequent til season 9 at least (seasons 7-8 have him in only three episodes per season, granted it's majority in 8's case but that' more from short length).

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Sep 30th 2022 at 4:13:38 AM

So among the show's two biggest Big Bads, who would you all say is worse in a moral sense, Vicky or Crocker and why?

They're both as bad as each other

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 3rd 2022 at 12:28:40 PM

Crocker's actions usually have a higher sense of scope, but Vicky is the worse person overall, especially as the seasons progress. Crocker manages to have some scruples by the end of the show.

Crocker is a really crappy teacher but he generally seems pretty disinterested in other students and he seems to be about on the same level as the other teachers. He's just got the fairy fixation fucking things up. He sucks, but most of the time, he'd just be a kinda crappy teacher who isn't necessarily opposed to giving kids good grades who earned them (Ajay, for example).

Vicky is actively malicious and hateful to...basically everyone if she thinks she can get away with it and doesn't have any discernable redeeming features.

Vicky is weird because she just starts off as a mean teenager but, like, not necessarily evil or anything? Just a jerk.

Then a few seasons later, she has world-conquering ambitions and even her parents are afraid of her.

Edited by Diana1969 on Oct 5th 2022 at 4:27:41 AM

Crocker also had world conquering ambitions.

The main difference between Vicki and Crocker is that Crocker got more humanizing moments as the series went on, while Vicki's were few and far between.

Edited by tclittle on Oct 4th 2022 at 12:34:36 PM

Crocker had ambitions for world domination since his first appearance. Vicki didn't. And while Crocker did get humanized, it literally becomes a plot point that Vicki *HAS* to be awful or else bad things happen.

Edited by Diana1969 on Oct 5th 2022 at 4:43:28 AM

> "Vicky Loses Her Icky", the cause of her evilness is attributed to an evil bug that crawled up her butt

brings to mind the phrase "What crawled up your ass and died?"

So, is there any actual proof Julia Louis-Dreyfus ever voiced Blonda? She wasn't credited, so I wanna know where that claim comes from?

There's no way she wouldn't have been credited at the beginning of the episode as a special guest, Butch Hartman does it any time someone famous does a role on his show.

Well, she wasn't credited at all in Blonda's debut episode, only Mary Hary and Bob Goen were, being why BTVA refuses to credit Julia Louis Dreyfus as her.

Does this mean Julia Louis Dreyfus voicing Blonda was just a rumor, and not true?

And Fairly Odder has just been removed from Paramount+.

As you may have heard, Showtime is becoming Paramount+ with Showtime.

I suspect that means that it didn’t get another season then.

And nothing of value was lost.

(Can we axe The Really Loud House next? Pretty sure that show's existence makes even less sense than Fairly Odder because The Loud House is not even close to losing steam.)

What is up with Really Loud House? I can't see what it puts forward to the table that the animated show does. An excuse to milk the cash cow perhaps?

Its either The Sponge or Loud House,that's the cows they milk constantly

Wonder why they canceled Casagrandes which at least had different characters and a sprawling city setting to take advantage of. ...It did also give us Carl and Sergio so perhaps the good was outweighed by the bad?