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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Laura was Ambiguously Brown in the X-Men Evolution cartoon (which she debuted in). Common guesses of her ethnicity ranged from latina to Native American.
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
Sometimes I forget that Laura is a Harley Quinn situation.
Based on her design in Evo, and with Laura as a name (which is common in latin-american countries), I would've pegged her as half-latina.
Edited by MrSeyker on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:26:35 AM
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
Which does track with her depiction in Logan.
Don't know if this was posted here already (if so I apologize), but there are rumors of them bringing in Richard Nova to the MCU as a "replacement" for Spider-Man.
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On the subject of representation, Sam Alexander is right there. We would really get Richard Rider?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Regarding X-23, there was an arc in the comics where she and Jubilee, who was the most adorable vampire at the time, became besties. Jubes didn't let being a literal blood-sucking monster become a reason not to live life to its fullest, and Laura clicked with that.
Meanwhile, Laura and Jubilee's father figures, Gambit and Wolverine respectively, bonded over being gruff badass men who suddenly had to be responsible parents, were still badass men while doing it, and wouldn't trade that responsibility for the world.
It's one of my favorite comic arcs. I'd kill to see it on film. Probably won't, though, because Vampire Jubilee.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:11:57 AM
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Not really posted, but I myself heard about this. However:
- As I learned the hard way, Cosmic Book News is not the best source of information since the guy in charge is a firm believer in some nasty Comicsgate stuff.
- Even then, people have already noted that Mikey Sutton's words in the initial Facebook post where the info came from sound more dramatic than the others.
On that note, we should probably refrain from posting stuff people said on Facebook or Twitter about Spider-Man and the Disney/Sony divorce before the mods get mad.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:23:37 AM
Lost in Space
Not mad, but I would prefer that we discuss actual news instead of unvetted rumors.
Edited by Fighteer on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:24:44 AM
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Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
WEN PASTE-POT PETE?
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Disasturbator
Funny but not helpful
Gambit is gruff?
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
x6 C'mon, you can't talk so higly about something and not at least give out the issues numbering so we can check it out!
First I heard it, too.
Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:43:25 AM
For the record, I DO want to get over it, but there's always SOMETHING dragging me back in... 
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:10:59 AM
Queen of Good Things, Honest
The overarching "Gambit parenting X-23" thing is from X-23 Vol. 3.
The bit I was talking about where Laura and Jubes hang out while Gambit and Logan bond is from issues 10-12. And it is amazing.
Came out in 2011 so it's been a long time since I read it, but it's stayed with me. Here's an article that gave me the issue numbers.
It's honestly a shame that this will almost certainly never be adapted, because in terms of comic book storytelling, it's a favorite of mine. The whole dynamic between X-23 and Gambit throughout the run was unexpectedly great, but this arc - bringing both Laura's biological dad Logan and surprise BFF Jubilee into the mix - is the high point.
But it's never going to be put to film, because "Vampire Jubilee" is one of those concepts that is by and large unadaptable due to having too many tonally incompatible moving parts for a given film. It also wasn't a very popular status quo for the character; long-time Jubilee fans hated it.
Which is a shame, since, and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this, but.
Factually.
Scientifically.
Objectively.
Jubilee is the best vampire ever written into a piece of fictional media.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 12th 2019 at 8:12:33 AM
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Funny but not helpful
Its a low bar but she pole vaulted over it.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Disasturbator
> Jubilee is the best vampire ever written into a piece of fictional media.
and
she sparkles
New theme music also a box
Funny but not helpful
It turns out that Twilight's major number one flaw aside from the writing and bad presentation of a relationship was not making its vampires Chinese mutants.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
...I mean. Blade is coming to the MCU soon, so it's not like vampires will be out of the question for long. Heck, I wouldn't think it improbable that Marvel would do "Vampire Jubilee" just to stick it to Fox's half-baked interpretations of her. Make the vampirism a mutation or something.
Even better than Marceline the Vampire Queen?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:26:50 AM
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
Yes.
Even better than Alucard the Crimson Fucker and Alucard the Floating Vampire Jesus?
Disasturbator
hes not even a real vampire!
New theme music also a box
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If you like grapes.
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The Head of the Hydra
There's also Alucard & Seras Victoria from Hellsing.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
I don't think it was ever confirmed that Sarah Kinney was of East Asian descent.
Disgusted, but not surprised