Marvel Cinematic Universe

I'd be more interested if they brought back the John Wick choreographer, who they employed for the excellent action scenes in Civil War. Nevertheless it's a good hint for the tone of the miniseries, and given Bucky's John Wick-esque apartment scene in Civil War, we're hopefully probably getting some nice setpieces and good nonverbal storytelling out of this.

...I'm not going to argue whether she's a slave or not because my recollections are too fuzzy to ascertain the veracity of that.

However, when arguments such as this are made:

I mean, why is it a problem to complain about our protagonists not acting as though having a slave is wrong or even being uncomfortable?

Why is the argument "because it's a thing" being stomped around as though that means anything towards morality? By that logic, abolitionists shouldn't exist or are wrong. What logic is "because it's a thing, which means everybody should have no qualms with it whatsoever?"

Why is the idea that being a self-defined prick means saying nothing about having a slave a thing to be argued for?

Why is there a false dichotomy between "free all slaves everywhere!" and "wait, he has a slave?"?

Being against slavery, even through thoughts or words, is a ridiculously low standard. It's one of the most basic assumptions of any form of decency. Any protagonist who's written as though they have no problems with it while not treating it as though it's a flaw...how is that not a problem? How is not measuring even to that low standard...

Were any of these arguments being used for Inhumans?

You know, I've never played L.A Noire. Is it O.K?

Also, isn't she a detective, not a copper? I'd imagine a change in the formula would happen for such an adaptation considering she's not actually part of law enforcement the same way Cole is.

I imagine she won't have a partner or be able to get little diversions from her radio. How would forensics work? Would she have to endure rather seemingly lack-luster fight mechanics?

Would she able to overreact on a dime? While being able to instantly be calm and polite a second later?

...I saw a let's play of it.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 10th 2019 at 7:31:54 AM

O.K, I'm willing to stop. I did not see any thump at the time of writing this.

Please keep my thoughts about L.A Noire.

Edit: So, is the edited version better?

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 10th 2019 at 7:30:56 AM

Wait, seriously?

Huh. I might need to go check out John Wick. Civil War's fight choreography was amazing.

The characters can definitely comment on people who have slaves — they don't because a) when they encounter Carina, they still have to deal with the Collector, which means tact and b) they didn't know Mantis was a slave. Again.

The difference with Inhumans was that it was trying to paint Maximus, the man who was spouting against the rigid caste system, as a villain, because...he was against the rigid caste system. There was literally no other reason, besides the fact that he acted kind of creepy. The show was very poorly written, with the main characters enforcing a rigid caste system and this was supposed to change once they came to Earth, but...that's never how it came across. The whole show was very poorly written.

You should definitely watch John Wick. It has some of the best fight choreography ever.

Edited by alliterator on Jul 10th 2019 at 7:35:50 AM

Do you have, or ever had a dog?

Then you'll enjoy John Wick.

...I had a hamster.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 10th 2019 at 7:50:36 AM

...John Wick has a story?

That's not me being coy, I never hear people talk about the movie's writing as opposed to its fighting.

If Telltale were still around, I would love to have one of their style games as a noir detective / superhero story starring Jessica.

Well it has a more understated story.

Though the stuff that happened in 3 certainly got people talking a lot.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 10th 2019 at 8:31:54 AM

Like Mad Max Fury Road it’s a great example of how to build a unique world without spending ages on exposition.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 10th 2019 at 8:30:50 AM

Kinda but not kinda, Mad max works because the director kinda sorta know the public now the basic of the genre and because the plot is reallys imple and almost paper thin(Warlord have sex slave, former enforcer take it, warlod want it, mario kart in hell ensure), that cant apply to more complicated stories.

The John Wick (so far) trilogy has action choreography that leaves every Marvel movie dead in the dust, so yes, I'd recommend it.

Each film shows more and more of a intricate mythological world and has non-verbal storytelling often relating to myths and religion. I'd basically describe John Wick as a "gun opera".

Derek Kolstad should be a interesting addition to the franchise in light of that, though I'd clarify I don't know how much his greatness depends on Chad Stahelski (the director) or not, since his work outside of the John Wick franchise had been mediocre.

Edited by Gaon on Jul 10th 2019 at 8:39:00 AM

I will guess this also come with a sort of implicit "move on or else" isnt?.

Is that not what’s happening now?

Please stop being a scary galaxy. We’ve moved on.

I’m not trying to be disrespectful, here.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 10th 2019 at 9:30:59 AM

When speculating about the next big bad of the MCU, most of us have been assuming which villains they could include from the newly acquired properties (myself included, because I really want it to be DOOM).

But come to think of it, I guess that's unrealistic, because we know they've got the whole thing planned out years in advance at this point. Most likely the next big threat is already set, and its connected to something they have in the works now. Unfortunately, since I really want it to be DOOM instead. But moving on...

So what if Eternals is the gateway to the big threat this. It'd actually be really cool if the theme for the upcoming arcs was just, like, "gods." And they could have the Eternals, Hercules and his crew, if we get Spider-Island they could finally have something come of Anansi showing up there, etc. All the way up to Eternity itself (I mean, can you imagine?)

Or Dr. Strange's sequels. I'd still be down for Shuma Gorath as the major threat.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 10th 2019 at 9:45:29 AM

@Gaon

This is why I'd have been more impressed if they brought on John Wick's choreographer or as you mentioned director rather than just their writer, unless Kolstad is known to have done a lot of work on the nonverbal aspects of scenes or worked closely with choreographers for this purpose.

Yeah, I'm also onboard with Shuma-Gorath making an appearance. But then, I've been pretty open with how much I want to see that ugly tentacled mess in something other than the Marvel vs. Capcom games.

And if the Eternals are the introduction for the Big Bad...it's likely going to be the Celestials. As in the actual robot spacegods.

Edited by M84 on Jul 12th 2019 at 3:01:17 AM

Upon further reflection, my behavior in the earlier arguments were not right.

While I still maintain the arguments I had, I admit that my arguments could have been phrased in a less dramatic way.

I'm not trying to revive the conversation, it's merely a realization I had now.

It's also almost three in the morning where I am so I apologize if this isn't what anybody wants to hear, my mental gears are getting...what is it when a gas creates a reaction which forces a thing to slow itself or impair normal movement?

Inert? Maybe. I suck at chemistry.

I think inert is when it’s no longer able to do anything.

In spanish the term is "choking the engine", but a quick google search seems to indicate to me that that terminology is not correct in english.

I think Galactus being the next big bad is far more likely then DOOM,as much as I want the good doctor he's already been in a movie before and those films weren't exactly for very good,and when he does appear it probably be without his herald

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 11th 2019 at 1:34:08 PM