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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Lost in Space
I know, right. It's so wacky and lovable. 
Heck, it's blatantly obvious that Peter convinces Ray and Egon to start the Ghostbusters because he thinks they can scam the hell out of people by promising to trap ghosts. You could make the point that, by dissing Walter Peck, he indirectly causes Gozer to get released — or at least accelerates the timeline.
Venkman is such an over-the-top asshole that it's amazing we root for him at all.
Edited by Fighteer on Mar 1st 2019 at 3:37:31 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
The Head of the Hydra
Ah the...... wait which decade was this?
Amazing how things have changed in such short years.
To think the various forms of misogyny in Revenge of the Nerds wasn’t creepy & fucked at all back then.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 1st 2019 at 12:40:15 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Disasturbator
She/her
I’m willing to bet plenty of women were horrified when Revenge of the Nerds came out. There’s film criticism from the 1970s and 1980s criticizing George Lucas for having almost no women or people of color in the original Star Wars trilogy.
Speak for yourself. didn't root for him back then, and do it even less now that I actually understand what roofies are.
You know, one of the "arguments" against Captain Marvel is that it is a comic which has been rebooted repeatedly. I just say: No wonder considering what BS the (male) writers did to Carol Danvers. So let's hope that a female writing team does a better job. At the very least they won't think that mind rape is something you can just wave away.
Edited by Swanpride on Mar 1st 2019 at 12:44:58 PM
Makes me wonder if John Belushi's take on Venkman (or for that matter, Richard Pryor, both men were considered for the role) would have been any different,,but anyway, this thread is derailing, soooo,,Am I the only one who thinks that a tv series based off Sleepwalker (and set in the MCU of course) could work? If anything, you could even put it on Disney's new streaming service.
Disasturbator
Being fair to Star Wars Return of the Jedi/Empire strikes back did eventually include a black characters like Lando,I suspect the reason they didn't have any in the first film was that it was a massive gamble and it may have been hard to convince many black actors to sigh on to the project so Lucus stuck to people he knew which was mostly white actors
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How about using him in a Midnight sons show? This way they can use the Ghostrider as jump-off point….
Sleepwalker is simultaneously too weird to be marketed to as a superhero series, but too conventional to be marketed as a "trippy" series either. He'd work best as a supporting character or a guest star on another character's show, like Ghost Rider or Blade.
Have some Lúcio-Ohs. Jonny Cruz (Lúcio) and Rob Paulsen (Carl Wheezer) perform a scene from Spider-Man: Homecoming.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 1st 2019 at 2:08:20 AM
Love is Love is Love
Not to mention the fact that Venkman blew off an actual, real psychic to try and get his dick wet.
My various fanfics.
Yeah, Venkman being an all-around horrible person is a big reason I don’t enjoy the original Ghostbusters and have trouble understanding how it got so popular.
I watched Indiana Jones’ series for the first time ever recently and among the various things I liked and disliked about the series, I noticed how strongly Lucas particularly latched onto the male power fantasy of pulp comics genre - it and the completely unchanged racial problems are even more visible there than in Star Wars. Lucas’ attachment to it probably a strong reason why those problems are so prevalent in the many, many fandoms his work has touched and influenced ever since: he didn’t invent it, but he did codify it for action movies and sci-if and so on
Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 1st 2019 at 2:41:31 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Also the implication in '’Raiders'' that Indy took advantage of a teenager...
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 1st 2019 at 2:41:53 AM
Marvel is reporting seeking an "openly gay actor" for a lead role in Eternals. I wonder if they are making a character gay and thus want to avoid controversy by casting an LGBT actor? Also, I nominate Vincent Rodriguez III.
Edited by alliterator on Mar 1st 2019 at 2:47:59 AM
I just checked what a roofie is, and ummmmmmmmmm, huh.
Well, I guess it's a good thing the only 80's comedy I watched was Back To The Future, which is relatively free of fucked up stuff as far as I can remember.
Whoever the character is, I'm hoping it's not Starfox.
Ah yes, gays in space. :D
Lost in Space
Yes, it's a bit... odd that Peter arrives for his date with Dana with a powerful sedative. He didn't prepare in advance for his girlfriend to be possessed by a demon, so what exactly is he planning to do with it? ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Edited by Fighteer on Mar 1st 2019 at 5:51:58 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Disasturbator
BUT THEY CANT BREATH IN SPACE!
Edited by Ultimatum on Mar 1st 2019 at 10:51:34 AM
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No, they can.
X-men is a documentary.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 1st 2019 at 2:52:31 AM
Disasturbator
titled "Have you tried not being a mutant?"
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The Head of the Hydra
@Galadriel That shit was more okay back then, simple as that.
It’s why we have the term “Has not aged well” in the first place.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 1st 2019 at 3:00:53 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
“Creeps on” is a massive understatement. HE CARRIES ROOFIES WITH HIM.