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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#94276: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:37:37 PM

Tony building a stun gun out of home electronics would be impressive... for someone who wasn't already Tony Stark. As it is it's a bit like Superman dramatically lifting a motorcycle over his head. It's sort of the bare minimum of what you'd expect him to be capable of.

It's not a bad idea to have Tony cobble together some DIY weapons together. It's just a bit of a letdown that they're not more spectacular than what we saw. Knowing he built the first Iron Man suit in a cave out of scrap metal, you kind of want him to at least build some little *batteries not included attack drones out of kids' toys or something. Or whatever, something a bit more over the top.

Edited by Unsung on Jan 10th 2019 at 11:42:36 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#94277: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:40:52 PM

My headcanon is that the Hulkbuster in the MCU was in part inspired by the Iron Monger suit design. The Hulkbuster is very different from Tony's usual preferred aesthetic of favoring sleeker and more portable and efficient designs.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#94278: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:42:27 PM

[up][up]I mean, here is the actual scene in question:

Tony doesn't just make a stun gun; he creates homemade tranquilizer darts, a homemade taser glove, and homemade grenades.

[up]That's because it's supposed to fight the Hulk.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:43:01 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#94279: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:42:52 PM

Yeah. Like I said. Kind of wish it was a bit more over the top.

Edited by Unsung on Jan 10th 2019 at 11:43:24 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#94280: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:48:18 PM

Yeah it’s all pretty mundane.

Where’s the showmanship?

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:48:26 AM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#94281: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:52:24 PM

Hey, leave him alone, he only had a few hours to put that together. It's not like they left him alone for weeks in a cave with a box of scraps.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:52:50 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#94282: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:56:13 PM

Not good enough.

He’s Tony Fucking Stark, quite possibly the smartest man on the planet who revolutionized energy technology.

He’s a Goddamn magician of science. Possibly a God or a deity or well something of that level. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:57:27 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#94283: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:57:48 PM

Tony's genius when it comes to making weapons out of scraps should rival that of Mekboyz.

Maybe that's why Tony's armors have a lot of red.

Edited by M84 on Jan 11th 2019 at 2:58:10 AM

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#94284: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:59:40 PM

It's just more fun that way. He's Iron Man, you're being given a license to get away with a lot, here. Go a little crazy, even.

[up]I'd like to see the Hulk just WAAAAGH together a spaceship at one point. Just yell at it until it formed itself out of a Sakaaran junkpile.

Edited by Unsung on Jan 10th 2019 at 12:00:51 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#94285: Jan 10th 2019 at 10:59:44 PM

On the other hand he was stress and tony really do bad stuff when he is stress.

posion heart? a string of bad choices.

PTDS? plenty of armours

Wanda mind vision? he build ultron.

By this train of logic, by the time his child is born, he will build a fucking death star just to release stress.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#94286: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:01:16 PM

I think you just spoiled the plot of Endgame.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#94287: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:03:08 PM

I think he once built a gigantic mobile base armor in the Ultimate comics.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#94288: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:12:53 PM

Nah, Tony will "just" create another super powerful robot as a bodyguard for his kid. Said robot will then become the MCU version of The Fury.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#94289: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:19:11 PM

Tony Stark did not build a Death Star. No, he built a goddamn Dyson Sphere.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#94290: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:21:07 PM

Unsung: no, the ening will be this

Cap: we defeat thanos!, now tony, give us the gauntlet to reverse this......

Tony, give us the gauntlet....stop looking like that...tony....nonono-

SNAP!

...roll credits....finall words....we are in iron man 4 now...

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#94291: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:25:04 PM

As long as Iron Man 4 is based on the "Armor Wars" storyline and introduces Riri Williams, I'm okay with that.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#94292: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:27:46 PM

[up][up]Nah, Tony would instead make a new Iron Man suit that incorporates the Infinity Gauntlet in it. The Infinity Armor.

Edited by M84 on Jan 11th 2019 at 3:28:15 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#94293: Jan 10th 2019 at 11:38:33 PM

[up]And engraving "im a loser" in both bucky and capitan amrican back permanly.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#94294: Jan 11th 2019 at 12:47:30 AM

Why didn’t Tony just call the cops on the house rather than trying to storm it himself.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#94296: Jan 11th 2019 at 3:36:53 AM

The one the mandarin was in.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#94297: Jan 11th 2019 at 3:39:26 AM

probably because the bad guy would kill the cops?

New theme music also a box
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#94298: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:58:10 AM

I still think it'd me hilarious if Harley grows up to be Kang.

[up][up][up] I assume he did, but only after he mopped the place up. Superhero stories (and action movies, for that matter) tend to feature a certain lack of trust in the capabilities of police to get the job done.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 11th 2019 at 8:59:24 AM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#94299: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:58:32 AM

The skydiving scene in Iron Man 3 is easily one of the best Iron Man scenes in the whole MCU, easy top 10. Better than any Iron Man scene in Iron Man 2.

Hmmm. I always forget that scene.

Right there with Cap landing on the grenade, the punch-up he and Bucky had with Tony, the elevator fight in Winter Soldier, Iron Man's first take-off, Thanos beating the snot out of Hulk, and Strange using the Time Stone it's one of the best scenes in the MCU.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#94300: Jan 11th 2019 at 9:03:32 AM

I don't even remember the skydiving scene in IM 3. And honestly, I don't know whether IM 3 is agood Shane Black movie, as I never watched any Shane Black movies other than IM 3, and I honestly don't plan to. For me, IM 3 failed in pretty much every regard, not just as an Iron Man movie.

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