Marvel Cinematic Universe

I haven't read any Storm X Panther, but I get the impression they kind of only dated because of the ego trip of being two of the most powerful people on the planet.

Silverclaw is actually one of the lesser known Avenger characters. So no matter what happens, Marvel studio owns the rights to her. I actually wonder if they have considered her already for a movie. She is too obscure to be a draw in itself, but, well, I bet that after Wonder Woman and Black Panther Marvel took a close look at their female and diverse characters, and she ticks off both of those boxes without being a legacy character, she has a powerset which is different from anything the audience has seen beforehand, and her backstory is actually quite unique. Imho she is perfect for a Got G style experiment, just do the best movie possible with her on a reasonable budget and then throw it out there and advertise it as the exploration of indigenous culture she is.

That is accurate, & to be more specific it was the ego trip of the BP writer at the time Reginald Hudlin.

Guy really turned BP & Wakanda into his own personal Creators Pet.

He is the one who got them together so they can be Marvel's "Black Power Couple" despite Christopher Priest writing in the previous BP run that Storm/Panther was nothing more than a fling between two teenagers that wouldn't amount to anything with true substance.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 20th 2018 at 11:21:50 AM

I really think that Silverclaw has some of the best potential themes to explore in a movie with her in a starring role. Her story has a lot of themes of religion and ancient culture.

Her village was a small isolated village in South America, and they worshipped the native gods, who are totally real people because this is Marvel. Spanish Missionaries came to their town and converted them to Christianity, which made their gods very upset. They all left except for one. Her father was a historian who studied their old culture, and he met and fell in love with the one goddess who remained. Silverclaw was their child, and she was given a Christian name, baptized, and raised in a church orphanage as a Christian after her father died.

She is then sponsored by Jarvis, grows up, and goes to New York to go to a university and join the Avengers. The climax of her story involves going back to her hometown and reconciling with her mother.

With a good scriptwriter behind this, there are some REALLY strong themes of colonialism, Christianity hurting as well as helping, as well as a discussion to be had with cultural anthropology and the loss and rediscovery of local cultures. This movie could be FANTASTIC, done properly.

All the Captain Marvel hype has me wondering if and when we'll ever see Jessica Drew in the movies.

No. The issue with Jessica Drew is that even though she isn't really a Spider-Man character, Sony would be really upset if Marvel would use her. There is no need to rock the boat if there are so many other female characters Marvel could explore first.

A good candidate for a high quality streaming show would be She-Hulk btw. For one, no problem with Universal because they have only movie distribution rights, and two, her being a lawyer and all...they could build a whole show around her defending powered people in court.

The best part about superheroes is how adaptable they are.

You can combine them with pretty much any scenario & genre from westerns, space operas, detective thriller, & courtroom drama.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 21st 2018 at 1:28:16 AM

So...which genres do you want covered the most?

I admit, I kind of want an Avenger musical...and yes, I know that it is a crazy notion. But I want it!

Maybe they could do something along the line with Dazzler once the deal went through. Frankly, I think that Dazzler doesn't really fit in the X-men verse (honestly, in THAT setting, who would use their powers on stage?????) but she would be perfect as a powered being in the Avengers world.

I’m okay with anything as long as it feels fresh.

Musical or singer film could work.

I’m hoping for the X-Men films they decide to make it more of a school movie by taking advantage of how the Xavier Institute is an Acedemy of Adventure where anything is possible.

Monster movie. Have Elsa Bloodstone fight Fing Fang Foom.

How is he not?

Edited by windleopard on Sep 21st 2018 at 1:49:38 AM

For genres, a superhero detective film: and not a cop/crime thriller, but a Sherlock Holmes-esque detective story in a superhero world, is something I've wanted for a while.

Most of Marvel's iconic detectives are already nommed by Netflix. But imagine, like, a crazy, absurdist Howard the Duck movie where he's playing detective amidst an increasingly unstable and grandiose cosmic situation.

I just want a squirrel girl movie

Because every other member of the kooky quartet hung around and became iconic and Quicksilver ran into a wall and went to live with the Inhumans

I don’t think of Rick Jones as being iconic Avenger and he was in quite a bit of early issues

I kind of want Marvel to take a swing at horror. Tons of its characters fit the genre (especially Blade, who I still want to see with an actual British accent), and the Doctor Strange mythos have a lot in common with Cosmic Horror Story.

I mean, I probably wouldn't watch it in the theater, being the chicken I am, but it gas potential.

And if Marvel ever adapts Fing, they should first come up with a better name, because Christ.

@Pushover: damn, now I want to read some of her stuff. Any recommendations?

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 21st 2018 at 7:12:42 AM

Considering the director, I was expecting the first Doctor Strange to have at least some horror elements in it. I was kind of disappointing that it was fairly straightforward mystical.

Btw, has anyone else ever noticed that Marvel has some sort of "battle rhythm" by now? Most movies start with some sort of battle to establish "okay, this is what those heroes are able to do", end the first act with a battle which is tied into the central conflict of the movie, end the second act with a battle paired with an "all is lost" moment and then have the big finale battle to wrap up the story.

Maybe someone get can get New Warriors back on track.

Also a She-Hulk series could work but you would need to be very careful with it.

Well, no one denies Marvel movies follow a certain pattern. It's what they fill that pattern with that differentiates the good from the bad.

And Strange did have a few horror elements, like that trip through the Multiverse and Dormmammu, it's that, as a origin story, the movie probably couldn't do all that much without getting in the way of establishing the character and his setting.

Let's hope the sequel fixes that.

It needs to be a courtroom comedy, like her run in the 2000's (forgot the author). That shit was gut bursting.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 21st 2018 at 9:04:37 AM

~Hail Muffins I dunno, I've not read any comics with her in it. I'm just regurgitating her backstory from the Wikia. She's not super popular, she's a D-List Avengers character with no headlining titles of her own.

Her first appearance was in Avengers Volume 3 #8 in September 1998, and most of her appearances have been in Avengers comics ever since. Here's a list of all the comics she's in.

Dan Slott.

Speaking of formula, what would guys consider to be a part of the MCU formula? Witty Dialogue, All is lost until things get resolved, Bathos.....need help here.

Holy cow, that Captain Marvel teaser is amazing. I've increased my knowledge about her by about 9000 percent just by watching reactions to it from people who know all the comic lore. They're hitting on a whole bunch of points and I wonder how it's all going to get crammed into a two hour (-ish) movie.

• Carol Danvers was an Air Force pilot before getting abducted(?) by the Kree, possibly after an accident grants her super-powers. (In her comic origin story, I understand that she gets abducted and then genetically altered.)
• The Kree impress her into the Space Force, possibly brainwashing or altering her memories of Earth.
• At some point, her ship is destroyed and she crash-lands on Earth.
• We see Skrull, and one major character is a Skrull who's infiltrated SHIELD, so rooting out that infiltration will probably be a big plot point. The train sequence might be part of a fight against a Skrull infiltrator, which is what brings her to Nick Fury's attention.
• Her backstory is going to be told through flashbacks as she recovers her memory.
• We're getting a lot of shots of the Kree homeworld, the Space Force, and even Ronan, so I wonder how much time will get spent on that part of the story.
• We see Mar-Vel, so maybe her absorption of his powers will be part of the plot — a third-act power-up?

The dynamic cuts of Carol getting knocked down and then standing up again... whoa. Combined with the choice of music, Marvel is as good as it gets for setting an emotional tone. "Discover what makes her a hero" indeed.

This has me feeling really good. I commented on one reaction video that my butt is as good as glued to that seat come March.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 21st 2018 at 10:51:20 AM

Is it a rule that comic writers are only allowed to be good for a small timeframe and then suck royally? 'Cause ever since the end of the Superior Spider-Man he has pretty much run the book through a shit-grinder, Christ.

Well, glad to see people ate excited, but the teaser hasn't really done much for me.

And neither did tge teasers for Black Panther and Infinity War, so I'm going to assume this is a sign dear Cap is going to be a masterpiece.

Right now here's my guess:

At the start of the movie Carol thinks she's always been part-kree, lived on Halaa her entire life, and has been part of Starforce for years.

However she has flashbacks to a different life that she can't make sense of...until Star Force's involvement in the Kree-Skrull War take them close to Earth. Then whether deliberately (because she's chasing her flashbacks) or not, she gets separated from the rest of Star Force and crash-lands on earth, leading to the first scene of the trailer.

Turns out nothing she thought she knew was right. Turns out she was an Air Force pilot that was involved in a confrontation with a Starforce spacecraft (who were investigating potential Skrull presence on Earth). That confrontation resulted in an accident involving a piece of Kree technology (the Psyche-Magnatron or whatever they are calling it in the MCU) that fused her DNA with Mar-vell's. Carol was then abducted, and when her abilities were discovered her memories were modified. This all happened less than a year before the start of the movie.

At some point she links back up with Starforce and confronts them on the matter, and Mar-vell (against the advice of the rest of Starforce) comes clean about the whole thing. This could potentially lead to a violent confrontation with Carol and Mar-vell on one side and the rest of Starforce on the other).

That all makes sense, but it doesn't leave much room for the Skrull to be the primary villains of the movie as implied in the teaser and conversations around the production. They could be side-villains and Mar-vell ends up being the Big Bad, but that doesn't really fit with the one-movie thing. It'd make a great sequel, but there's no time for that to happen: Avengers 4 is being released two months after Captain Marvel.

Edit: I could be wrong, though. If Phase 4 of the MCU involves the Secret War with the Skrull infiltration, then we could set it up here but save the escalation for later.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 21st 2018 at 12:21:12 PM