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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
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ASM 2 seems to be pushing it in a direction incompatible with the MCU.
But still guys, there's at least a dozen other MCU main characters they already have rights to, and even more storilines, that you didn't just see in a movie or six about white guys. It irks me that you're constantly talking about bringing the same characters over like there's only so few things Marvel can do. It's just boring.
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I'd prefer a sitcom
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We'll explore the Negative Zone
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edited 24th Jan '14 6:10:58 AM by Nightwire
If FF did return to Marvel, I'd much rather see Doom and to a lesser extent the Silver Surfer turn up in the MCU than the family themselves.
I'm far more hyped for properties Marvel already has the rights for really. Captain Marvel Movie! Runaways TV Show! The Ultron Family!
In other news, it sounds like Agents of Shield plot lines are really coming together. I might have to return to it.
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Back to the Halloween costumes from two pages back, I note that the Star Lord mask has unnecessary yellow, and one thing that I find humorous(ly sad) about the sexualization of Halloween is that Men's and Boys' costumes come with added 6 pack exaggeration.
Regarding the cameos: that seems like good stuff of them finally giving us what we want. All I remember of Deathlok was he was in Maximum Carnage. I laughingly chose to read the name as Deathklok when I first read that earlier post.
edited 24th Jan '14 7:50:44 AM by wanderlustwarrior
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Now that would get me watching Agents of Shield.
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Lol, filming in Gangnam.
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Also this is what Whedon had to say about the continuity of the film.
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More friggin characters? I was already worried about balance.
edited 27th Jan '14 3:30:44 AM by wanderlustwarrior
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There's already a DOFP thread.
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I'm well aware. However, my comment is tangentially MCU related, and what's more, I'm not going to be a stickler while we have little direct stuff to talk about.
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Test screenings of Winter Solider are so good Marvel is already looking at a production team for Captain America 3.
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While I'm not big on a ton of sequels...
Shit yes.
I hope the Falcon impressed and gets a big role in the future.
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I think three solo movies per hero is reasonable.
The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
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I disagree. I think it's more important to have movies that provide unique storylines for the characters (and the universe in general), while being well done and not getting stale. The more trilogies that get done, especially for characters who have been around since phase one, the older those actors get, the more redundant the movies may get, and the more we may have to push back other characters and movies. Consider how many (and which) characters we have yet to even see hinted, while at the same time there have been three (and a half) Iron Man films of varying quality.
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Nice. I was already excited for this movie, given that I was such a huge fan of the first one. Can't wait.
I disagree with that assertion. Beyond the fact that I enjoyed Iron Man 3 at least there was clearly a demand for the character and now they're content to leave him in a team-up capacity for the time being since he's had three hit films in a row. A trilogy is more than fair since it fills the audience demand without getting into Superman territory where they run the franchise into the ground and the actors want out.
After all, aside from "I personally don't like the character," I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why Marvel should've retired Iron Man already. Especially when each of his movies grossed more than the last.
Yeah, as much as we all complain about Tony being the Red Ranger of the group, they'd be stupid not to pimp him out so much. He prints money.
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if Iron Man is red ranger, does that mean Nick Fury is Zordon?
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I suggest you take a closer look at my post.
- I didn't single out Iron Man 3. I was actually referring to the fact that both 2 and 3 have had mixed responses from audiences, both general and hardcore.
- Ticket sales for one movie don't necessarily mean the same for the future.
- RDJ has expressed that he'd want out soon.
- A trilogy for one character doesn't necessarily mean a trilogy for all of them would work. You're forgetting Thor and Hulk, for example.
- "fair" to whom?
- Qualifiers. I'm not just assuming that trilogies would be bad. I did just suggest that I'd like to see a third Cap if the second is good, and in my pitch for characters and storylines for the Marvel future, I did suggest two Hulk films in addition to the one that's out.
Cap would be the red ranger. The you'd have Dr. Tony Oliver.
edited 28th Jan '14 4:16:28 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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Also, I like The Amazing Spider Man and expect to like its sequel (it and Winter Solider are the only superhero movies of the year that I feel confident in; Marvel's gone without a major flop yet, but if they do have one it's likely to be GOTG - it's just so different from anything they've done before, so weird, and we've heard so little about it given that it's coming out this summer.) I've got no problem with Sony continuing what they're doing.
At any rate, Spidey's a moot point. Marvel have a chance at getting the Fantastic Four back, a more distant one at getting the X-Men, but there's zero chance of Sony letting Spider-Man go - in terms of average box office per film, the franchise has been more successful than Iron Man. ASM didn't do as well as the Raimi films, but it still made more than The Dark World and, and internationally it did better than Man Of Steel. Now that they're past the repeated origin story, the sequel could do substantially better. (If they get a chance, Sony would probably love to get their hands on the Fantastic Four and start up an expanded universe of their own. I don't know if that's possible.)
edited 24th Jan '14 12:23:19 AM by WarriorEowyn