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CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
#601: Aug 9th 2011 at 3:18:42 PM

[up] And you have done. 5 or 6 times without actually making further argument.

The mods have left the single prop crowner up as a courtesy in case the wave of votes for a rename were met with similar numbers against, but it has only risen in favour since the crowner began, so it's just simplifying things - and not unfairly - by not insisting on the arbitrary 2:1 ratio.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#602: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:04:19 PM

I'm calling the crowners in favor of the rename to Jack of All Stats. There is no point in holding them up when action is clearly called for.

Thank you everyone who participated. Please begin the rename process.

edited 9th Aug '11 4:04:51 PM by Fighteer

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#603: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:05:42 PM

[up] We still don't actually have rename consensus though. That crowner has stalled. Should we go ahead and rename anyway without that?

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#604: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:06:55 PM

Yes. Again, I'm exercising some discretion here. I suppose we could get the other mods in here to confirm it.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#605: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:08:31 PM

Could somebody point me to the official policy page that requires an exact 2:1 majority before a rename is allowed? Because I strongly suspect that such a policy doesn't actually exist, and if it doesn't, Fighteer has every right to make this call.

edited 9th Aug '11 4:09:57 PM by Spark9

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#606: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:13:01 PM

As long as Fighteer says it's good. I still don't see how renaming to the thing that caused the misuse in the first place will fix anything, but I suppose I'm out voted.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#607: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:18:50 PM

We don't have an official policy page that says that 2:1 is absolutely required and cannot be over-ridden. Because it isn't. But it's not over-ridden lightly or without discussion among the mods and admin. Fighteer has my support as a mod in this case.

edited 9th Aug '11 4:19:21 PM by Madrugada

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CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
#608: Aug 9th 2011 at 5:02:27 PM

For reference, I'm aware of only one serious case of mod intervention forcing a rename (okay, two), the other being Eccentric Mentor because the arguments changed dramatically during the course of the crowner, rendering most of the votes obsolete (all the anti-rename arguments were disproven during the course of the debate, thus a new crowner to reflect this would have been a box-ticking exercise only).

This seems an acceptable deviation from established practice that mods not intervene where possible.

edited 9th Aug '11 5:03:01 PM by CaissasDeathAngel

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#609: Aug 9th 2011 at 5:51:55 PM

Is the crowner locked? I can't cast a vote myself, and this is about the only crowner that seems affected.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#611: Aug 9th 2011 at 6:02:14 PM

I do think this trope really needs to be renamed. I just think that this rename is going to have it back in here within a few months, but c'est la vie.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#612: Aug 9th 2011 at 7:07:15 PM

Locked crowners need a more visible lock icon, then. I was trying to tell myself it wasn't a bug.

edited 9th Aug '11 7:07:28 PM by Stratadrake

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TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
Diagonalizing The Matrix
#613: Aug 10th 2011 at 4:53:43 AM

Okay, the main page has been moved and the description and examples rewritten. Along the way I noticed it needs example cleanup, and obviously there are 700-odd wicks to be changed (you can find them here).

edited 10th Aug '11 4:54:44 AM by TripleElation

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#614: Aug 10th 2011 at 7:12:03 AM

Post that it needs a wick-clean-up here, please.

Locking.

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Whether to rename The Mario. There's a long discussion in the forums you may want to read first.

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