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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1: Jul 11th 2011 at 6:49:06 PM

Looks like the description for this thing was written by a logician with an ax to grind. I happen to approve of the sentiment, but there is no way we need all of that rant on the page. I'm undecided whether to cut it outright or put it in an Analysis page, but if anyone has a reason to keep it, speak now or forever hold your peace.

edited 11th Jul '11 6:49:22 PM by nrjxll

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#2: Jul 11th 2011 at 7:11:42 PM

Ultimatums aren't a good way to get help for this sort of thing.

It does look like the description could use some weeding.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#3: Jul 11th 2011 at 7:15:21 PM

I chopped a lot of it. If you want to write it up for the analysis page in a less condescending tone, it could be helpful.

^ Oh, see, I just skip over the ultimatum and get on with the hedge-trimming. It was Natter. It can be found in the history pages. And I think his ultimatum was more "If no one gives me a reason to not cut it, I'm going to cut it" than a request for help.

edited 11th Jul '11 7:17:55 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4: Jul 11th 2011 at 8:55:15 PM

[up]Yeah, that was meant more to make sure that no one cared if I cut it then as an 'ultimatum' per se. Anyway, it looks much better now, thanks.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Jul 11th 2011 at 9:00:00 PM

I'm tempted to write a Description Cruft page and list things we don't want in descriptions and why.

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gfrequency Since: Apr, 2009
#6: Sep 1st 2011 at 10:00:22 AM

I'd say the description gets across what the trope is about (and it is an annoying trope, to be sure). The example situations just go on a bit too long. Maybe weed that section and keep the rest intact?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Sep 1st 2011 at 10:59:21 AM

Yeah, there's a lot of justifying entries and "Yes but" that needs to be pruned in the examples.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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