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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Destroyer of Worlds
Where are we disagreeing here?
Please tell me you're not subscribing to "it can't happen here" because it's America.
That movement happened under a democracy trying to change things from within.
If there are no peaceful avenues to change things then it'll turn violent.
That's why I listed the number of things Trump has to do to den get us close to there. I think not letting go of power would bring out a revolt. At least I hope so.
"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
Oh, bother.
So there's a chance the USA will be paying Mexico for the wall rather than the other way around.
tl;dr: Trump might end up using Mexican construction companies and Mexican concrete to build the damn thing.
He'll probably use Chinese steel too.
edited 27th Jan '17 3:17:18 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
A wandering user
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If that will be the case, then he may shift the blame to Mexican "Hackers" in making the "erroneous" payment so his people don't get mad at him, right?
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
Ranked: International Relationships Trump's Made Complicated
Shinzo Abe... invested significant domestic political capital in the TPP trade deal, which Trump has now torpedoed...Should economic or security trouble develop between China and the U.S., Japan may suffer side effects. Abe may have seen the Trump train coming, but whether he can change its course is another question.
For China, Hillary Clinton was at least a known quantity...Trump has inserted himself into a delicate time in Chinese politics, as Xi Jinping prepares for a sensitive leadership transition in the fall. China’s government has pushed back hard to avoid a competition over who can be more nationalistic. America might not win that one.
Unlike the Democrats, the Trump administration has not batted an eye at Erdogan’s efforts to consolidate power in the presidency...But the two won’t be able to avoid the elephant in the room indefinitely. How long can a U.S. president who explicitly divides the world’s Muslims into good and bad camps get along with an increasingly Islamist political leader?
It is usually the American president who is accused of cozying up to foreign strongmen. In the case of Egypt’s president, it may be the other way around...The two will find a useful adversary in the Muslim Brotherhood, which Sisi overthrew. Unlike Erdogan, Sisi will have no trouble playing Trump’s anti-Islam sentiments to his advantage.
Perhaps more than any other world leader, Mexico’s president saw the consequences of a Trump presidency coming. Too bad it didn’t help...And politically, his fortunes have tanked, while those of firebrand leftist opposition leader Andrés Manuel López Obrador have risen. Mexico, more than anywhere else, is likely to see lasting change as a result of Trump's decisions, but they may come at the cost of Peña Nieto’s political legacy.
(Emphasis added)
edited 27th Jan '17 4:28:20 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
So... How many tropes so far has Trump succeeded in making a good case for him fulfilling them? I'm most interested in what trope applies to his "I want to be the POTUS who will be remembered as a king" thing.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
So it should be okay now to add Evil Overlord and Corrupt Corporate Executive to Trump's page now right?
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
No. The last guy who used "God Emperor" unironically doesn't need the motivation.
edited 27th Jan '17 5:20:18 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Cape Malleum Majorem
Building "The Wall" by imposing trade tariffs on Mexican imports will NOT "make Mexico pay for it." That money will be coming out of the pockets of American consumers. As usual, Pumpkinhead gets it all bass-ackwards again, but calls it a brilliant strategy...
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Lost in Space
It's scariest in that he has so little understanding of how economies work, and apparently is not surrounded by any advisers who understand it, either.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
And tariffs aren't exactly a new idea. They've been around for literal centuries. This probably isn't the type of situation where you can get an economist to lie about it, because tariffs are a super basic thing that don't really have any room for interpretation on what they actually do.
Whoever he's talked to about this, an actual economist is clearly not one of them. The party of fiscal responsibility, everyone!
edited 27th Jan '17 5:36:51 AM by Zendervai
Not Three Laws compliant.
Lost in Space
"Alternative facts", remember?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
What's to stop a bunch of Nazi trolls to start up a bunch of their own fake rogue accounts and propogating false facts though?
Like, we've got rogue national parks accounts, a rogue white house account, etc etc
What's to stop false accounts from being created to misdirect and mislead, which, as we've seen, these monsters are masters of doing?
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
I think we know though that many Trump supporters will believe "those awful Mexicans" are paying for it" if they don t see a larger amount of money taken out of their paychecks.
A trade war with Mexico will prevent Trump regime from doing anything about unemployment among the white working class, which will hand us the White House in 2020. Keep on truckin', Trump.
I imagine that if Trump refused to leave the White House in 2020, due to a delusion of thinking he won, Paul Ryan will slip a sleeping pill into a Trump Steak and feed it to him. He'll wake up in a whorehouse in Mexico City. Melania will take over Trump Industries and the next President will be awarded all of the Nobel Prizes in gratitude for not being a troll.
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
Most Trumplings don't know wtf a "tariff" is. All they'll see is prices going up, which the Presi-Don'T can pin an anyone he damn well pleases
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Until people start asking for lower prices, that is. You'll notice that "blame game" and "finger pointing" is usually a critical term.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
@Heap: He is Trump though, a strong manly man's man. So, obviously he can't do anything wrong. Look at how the Right worships Reagan. What they care about, (all they care about) is money in their pocket and their prejudices indulged.
edited 27th Jan '17 6:54:18 AM by Wildcard
Yes, because finger pointing will bring money into their pockets. Sure. Yes, I do think some people may believe into bogus ideologies to the point that they'll die rather than change their opinion, but I see little evidence that most people have that much psychological resistance.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Would that it were so simple.
"Manly man," yeah right. Trump is one of the most cowardly leaders we have ever had. The man practically defines Boisterous Weakling. He talks tough, but at the end of the day, he's just a fat, stupid old man. What's dangerous about him is what's around him: Congress, the military, the security apparatus, and his army of barbaric followers. But Trump himself is useless.
Voting for a republican does not turn someone into a zombie. They are looking at their paychecks. They don't care how manly he is, or who he blames, he's the President, and they expect him to get things done. If he can't deliver, his supporters will abandon him faster than Trump dumps apprentices.
Quite. I am really hoping for a miracle in the 2018 midterms and in 2020, but that's going to take a mass movement the likes of which hasn't been seen in decades. A political revolution if you will.
Which we will never, ever get. Americans are far too complacent and stupid to realize how rotten things are, and far to individualist to take to the streets. Like someone on here said a few weeks ago, the Holocaust could happen in modern America and no one would lift a finger.
It's been a long time coming, but corruption has won its final victory. We are set to spend the rest of the world's short future under the boot of oligarchs, and that's that.
How dare you disrupt the sanctity of my soliloquy?
Collector Of Fine Oddities
Coal mining operations owned by Gov. of West Virginia have so far refused to pay nearly five million dollars in safety fines.
Another rancid cherry on the shitcake of coal mine news in the US. Over the last few years cases of mining-related respiratory illness have begun to climb rapidly while mining companies grow more and more bolder in their ignoring of safety regulations. Herr Trumpenfuhrer's ascension doesn't bode well for any improvements in the foreseeable future.
edited 27th Jan '17 2:56:26 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."