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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#144451: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:49:44 PM

As someone who comes from a Republican family this shit terrifies me. As for the politics, since it happened in Charlotte, it's fairly likely BLM or some affiliate, or just some group of left wing black people that will be tied to it. That will do wonders for the movement, though probably not to much damage as they managed to get away from Dallas unscathed.

For real though the radical left is rising. God help us.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#144452: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:52:07 PM

Come on Jack, really?

Oh really when?
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#144453: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:54:09 PM

The 'radical left is rising?' Seriously?

The 'radical left' has, if anything, been rendered pretty impotent by this whole season

Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
#144454: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:56:04 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Not Three Laws compliant.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144455: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:56:57 PM

I don't think there's any need for that kind of panic - this is just a single incident. Violence from the right seem considerably more common.

Anyway, Trump Intensifies His Claim That Campaign Is ‘Rigged’.

Oh God! Natural light!
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#144456: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:58:06 PM

One incident (which could well be the work of a single person) does not make a "radical left movement". I highly recommend people wait for more information before drawing any conclusions, one way or the other. (Not that it will stop some people...)

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#144457: Oct 16th 2016 at 2:10:24 PM

I'm just worried that this incident tanks support for the Dems.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#144458: Oct 16th 2016 at 2:11:45 PM

One act of major vandalism where no one was hurt vs Trump and his "more stop and frisk" and throwing people out of rallies?

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#144459: Oct 16th 2016 at 2:32:43 PM

It's one incident, and, well, we just a right-wing loony plot to bomb Syrians after the election foiled. Let's not get scare-mongering; surely we can all admit that both sides have isolated crazies.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#144460: Oct 16th 2016 at 2:40:03 PM

This place is so anxious every little thing makes people lose their shit. Some asshole firebombing an empty office is not going to be a gamechanger ffs

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#144461: Oct 16th 2016 at 3:03:11 PM

On a more serious note, North Carolina GOP headquarters firebombed. Fortunately, it doesn't seem like anyone was injured, but this is exactly the sort of thing we don't want happening now.

One thing that flagged up in my exploration of the news today. Trump's twitter account has shown no response or awareness of this event. It's obsessing over 'Crooked Hillary' (and an ABC poll allegedly putting her 11 points down with female voters). Hillary's account has a twitter message reaching out to the NCGOP... and the responses of people to her message including things like accusing her of being behind it.

Twitter's such a fun place.

edited 16th Oct '16 3:05:13 PM by Wyldchyld

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144462: Oct 16th 2016 at 3:22:27 PM

That's pretty obviously an analogy and anyone trying to spin it as involving actual money is either an idiot or selling something.

"Having money in the bank with someone" means being in their good graces or something? First time I heard this expression, so I think my confusion is understandable. Probably am not alone.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144463: Oct 16th 2016 at 3:33:38 PM

I'm surprised members of the left even feel the need to launch terror attacks on Republicans. Just goes to show what a strong motivator fear is, ay?

edited 16th Oct '16 3:48:34 PM by nervmeister

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#144464: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:00:09 PM

@Gliphon. Indeed. Just because the radical left has been gaining more prominence, it has, doesn't mean the right don't have it's own share of crazies.

In other news American Muslims are more tolerant of Homosexuality, marriages outside of the faith, and less inclined to say their holy book should be a source of law than Muslims in nearly every other country. No wonder Trump hates them.tongue Seriously though what Trump has put these people through is absolutely disgraceful, and I hope he burns in hell for that.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#144465: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:00:14 PM

@handle: essentially. It's not a super common saying but outside of trump rallies I doubt there will be much talk of it.

@nerve: terrorists know no party. In the way back when times of about a century or so left leaning anarchists were really fond of bomb attacks in the US. That they've downgraded to Molotovs is a sign of progress I guess.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#144466: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:11:02 PM

"Having money in the bank with someone" means being in their good graces or something?
Exactly. He's saying that by putting some effort into making nice with the Sanders campaign, he can "cash in" on (ie, receive the benefits of) that later. Like [up] said, it's not a super common turn of phrase, but it's pretty clear what he means.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#144467: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:26:45 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-interview-business-insider-gop-2016-10

An interview with John Kasich. The particular section that caught my attention in the first place:

Smith: Now certain media outlets — Breitbart, Drudge Report, Sean Hannity, places where a lot of conservative voters go to for information — have been pushing a strong protectionist message with this agenda that coincides with what Trump is pushing. This is out of step with more traditional conservative values. Do you think the Republican Party needs to take some control back from some of these outlets?

Kasich: Well, I don't want to comment on media outlets, but I will tell you that if the Republican Party does not evolve, the Republican Party is going to die. The Republican Party cannot be anti-trade, anti-immigrant, not out there practicing the politics of people, you know, the issues surrounding drug addiction and mental illness and the cost of prescription drugs and healthcare and student debt and all of these things are very personal to people now. And if the party wants to have an ideological debate, it's never going to win anything in a major way. So I do believe that the party needs to evolve, or I won't be a part of it.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#144468: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:29:40 PM

Kasich actually sounds like a somewhat reasonable guy. If he dropped the austerity garbage and switched to Democrat I might not be against him.

edited 16th Oct '16 4:29:57 PM by Kostya

rfindlay from Boston Since: Dec, 2014
#144469: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:32:29 PM

To bring back a topic from a few pages back, Re: That Cracked article, it mentions a service economy not working below a specific population density. Is there any possibility that increasing internet infrastructure rollout to more rural areas and attempting to incentivize telepresence service jobs could possibly make up for the losses of traditional employers like factories and mines? (and consequently be seen as creating jobs in more rural areas that traditionally lean R?)

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144470: Oct 16th 2016 at 4:34:24 PM

[up][up][up]Well, IMO, the Republican Party can keep their pro-business / anti-government oversight stance without getting too much shit for it. Maybe even anti-immigration, if their argument strictly pertains to practical reasons (economic spending, housing, etc.). But that "family values" and "religious rights" shit just aint flying no more. Also, their stance against "socialist policies" just comes off as hypocritical.

[up]If it's likely to work, then it needs to happen, because that could quell /soothe a LOT of resentment from people in those rural areas who feel pressed to join up with the less savory elements of the "alt-right" in order to be heard.

edited 16th Oct '16 5:03:02 PM by nervmeister

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#144471: Oct 16th 2016 at 5:00:21 PM

[up][up] It certainly couldn't hurt. There's a lot of problems rural areas have with internet/cable/satellite companies due to monopolies and whatnot. If nothing else, giving them more infrastructure would reduce the price gouging and give the people more money, which would help the local economies.

rfindlay from Boston Since: Dec, 2014
#144472: Oct 16th 2016 at 5:08:03 PM

[up][up],[up] That was actually partly my thought process for even suggesting it. I know there's been a lot of talk about re-training workers in segments of the economy that have been displaced by automation and outsourcing, but after toying with the idea for a few days it seems like a fairly good step to take in the interim.

Edit: I also know that the wages right out of the gate would not be sustainable and would probably need some form of UBI to offset that.

edited 16th Oct '16 5:10:33 PM by rfindlay

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#144474: Oct 16th 2016 at 6:03:09 PM

It's sad that I knew he would respond this way.

edited 16th Oct '16 6:03:16 PM by golgothasArisen

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#144475: Oct 16th 2016 at 6:03:46 PM

[up][up]Trump: "The election is rigged against me" —> "They firebombed us because we are winning."

Doublethink much?

edited 16th Oct '16 6:04:04 PM by pwiegle

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