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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Feb 6th 2020 at 4:18:00 PM

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Jun 29th 2020 at 11:57:06 AM

I guess you could make the argument that at least they did it at all...

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Jun 29th 2020 at 12:13:12 PM

It's probably fair to note that, of the higher-trafficked subreddits, there was also r/gendercritical (transphobia) and r/ConsumeProduct (anti-semitic). The two highest political subreddits were r/The_Donald and r/chapotraphouse

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 29th 2020 at 12:14:13 PM

Jun 29th 2020 at 12:15:38 PM

r/Darkhumorcentral was also banned, it was pretty much a neo-nazi joke sub.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile
Jun 29th 2020 at 12:24:21 PM

r/ChapoTrapHouse also got the axe and good riddance to them.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jun 29th 2020 at 9:24:23 PM

Ceterum autem censeo Iam Primum Postem esse delendam.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Jun 29th 2020 at 12:34:08 PM

I guess you could make the argument that at least they did it at all...

You could but you really shouldn't, they shouldn't get kudos for doing the barest minimum after letting it fester. If they had opposed bigotry from day 01 then that would be one thing, but they shouldn't get credit for solving a problem that they helped cause.

KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Jun 29th 2020 at 12:34:53 PM

More Tankie Chapo somehow is still alive despite being, well,name explains all

Watch me destroying my country
ironballs16 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Jun 29th 2020 at 12:57:21 PM

One thing to note regarding Roberts' agreeing with the liberal judges on the abortion ruling was that he did so primarily because of how the court ruled in a nigh-identical case when Breyer was still on the court - different State, identical law requiring abortion providers to have admittance privileges at a nearby hospital. In different circumstances, he's more likely to rule the opposite, especially since he was in the dissent in the prior case, while Kavanaugh's predecessor was in the majority.

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I think the idea there is that he'd keep it legal - but he wouldn't necessarily have compunctions about letting States make it more difficult to have done.

Edited by ironballs16 on Jun 29th 2020 at 4:44:46 AM

Jun 29th 2020 at 1:43:18 PM

Didn't Collins vote in favour of Kavanaugh on the grounds that she was satisfied he'd protect abortion law's 'settled status'?

We all knew it was a matter of time before this would be proven wrong. Now we know how much time.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and dragon wings for flippers, it's just not worth reading.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Jun 29th 2020 at 1:50:20 PM

Roberts seems like he was mainly doing needle threading, he has his views and what he wants to push, but to so brazenly overturn a relatively recent precedent would be huge and would have major political ramifications for the court.

Iíve got to admire Robertsí commitment to avoiding Dems packing the court should they win in November, he knows that he has very little moral authority left and heís going to cling onto it for dear life.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Ramidel Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Jun 29th 2020 at 4:37:16 PM

I don't believe "day one" promises. It's political marketing with no value. I do believe that Biden will attempt to accomplish that; I do not believe it will be as simple as signing a pile of executive orders during his first day in office.

Come to think of it, I suppose he might order his staff to prepare a huge batch of bills and E Os so he can ceremonially kick them off on January 21, but that doesn't mean any of those things will happen that quickly. It'll take years... maybe decades... to clean up all of Trump's messes.

Fighteer, even I think that that's just a little cynical. Remember the 111st Congress (2008-2010)? They had a tripartite majority, and Obama, Pelosi and Reid together got shit done. DREAM. PPACA. The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act (closing a major loophole that was making equal pay lawsuits impossible). Dodd-Frank. I could go on.

Biden has his flaws, but he's an experienced legislator and veep. Now is the time for him to set out his goals and agenda so that, while Trump is being escorted out of the White House claiming that he won in Real America, he can move in and start getting those Day 1 bills moving even if they won't all be accomplished.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
Nuup-Kangerlua Defender of the Fleet from Up your ass - Second door to the left Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Defender of the Fleet
Jun 29th 2020 at 4:41:28 PM

Also to add my own two cents here the actual point should really be to maximise disruption across the GOP holdovers and not to score a fantasy land all clear.

Edited by Nuup-Kangerlua on Jun 29th 2020 at 1:43:36 PM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Jun 29th 2020 at 4:43:36 PM

Remember that the new congress sits before the new president is sworn in, so if democrats can get majorities in both chambers of Congress they technically could have bills ready for signing on day one. That does require full agreement on what goes in the bill to be reached pretty quickly, but the democrat caucus is a lot more unified than it was in 2008.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Aleistar Morning Sun from Sol 3 Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Morning Sun
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:11:47 PM

Maybe a bit off topic, but what is/who are Chapo Trap House?

Also, apologies if this has been posted before, but speaking of campaign promises, Biden apparently told his donors that he would get rid of Trump's tax cuts "and a lot of you may not like that."

Full article text:

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden told potential donors to his campaign that his administration would end most of President Donald Trump's multitrillion-dollar tax cuts - even though "a lot of you may not like that."

Biden's warning to his backers came as the candidate laid out an ambitious suite of policy goals during a virtual campaign fundraiser on Monday.

The event raised at least $2 million, CNBC reported. Biden, who has been largely avoided in-person campaign events throughout the coronavirus pandemic, said the recovery from the health crisis could present an "opportunity" to strengthen the middle class and make sweeping investments in clean energy and infrastructure.

"Folks, this is going to be really hard work and Donald Trump has made it much harder to foot the bill," Biden said, according to a Wall Street Journal reporterís press pool report about the event.

But even before the coronavirus crisis effectively froze the U.S. economy and sent unemployment skyrocketing, Trump's "irresponsible sugar-high tax cuts had already pushed us into a trillion-dollar deficit," Biden said.

"I'm going to get rid of the bulk of Trump's $2 trillion tax cut," Biden continued, "and a lot of you may not like that but I'm going to close loopholes like capital gains and stepped up basis."

Biden also said he would raise the corporate tax rate to 28%, which he said would raise an estimated $1.3 trillion over the next decade. The Trump tax cuts had shrunk corporate taxes to 21% from 35%.

"We have to think as big as the challenge we face. But this is America, there is nothing we cannot do if we do it together," Biden said. "But I think the country is ready."

The Trump campaign didn't immediately reply to a request for comment.

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KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:18:09 PM

Subreddit infested with tankies, basically Tankie Central

Watch me destroying my country
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:19:42 PM

My understanding is that it was a sub based around some show or podcast or something, it quickly became Tankie central on reddit for harassment, doxing and possibly actual planning of violence, thus the ban.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:21:51 PM

Tankies?

Vote for Biden, or constitutional Chernobyl will come.
Aleistar Morning Sun from Sol 3 Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Morning Sun
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:22:35 PM Profile pic credit: Shovel Knight | Uptown Funk is the universal language. - Adam Neely
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:42:59 PM

People who support authoritarian brutality and colonialism as long as itís done by a country opposing the US.

It comes from when the USSR used tanks to crush socalist rebellion against soviet backed regimes in Eastern Europe, some in the west cheered for the Soviets.

Nowadays it covers supporters of not just nominally leftist regimes but also things like Assad apologists, Iran enthusiasts and similar.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas
Professional Forum Ninja
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:50:16 PM So I'll make a resolution, that I'll never make another one, just enjoy this ride on my trip around the sun, until its done.
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:54:21 PM

[up] I'd love to believe that would be possible but I sincerely doubt it.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:54:29 PM

Sounds like hot air, just not sure who exactly is blowing it.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jun 29th 2020 at 5:57:01 PM

It depends on just how much he wants to save face, I think, and whether that outweighs his lust for power and his fear of post-presidency retributions.

Vote for Biden, or constitutional Chernobyl will come.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Jun 29th 2020 at 6:05:02 PM

Idiot that he is, Trump must be worried about legal issues. Mueller's report alone all but said that he'd be charged had he not been President.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Jun 29th 2020 at 6:18:43 PM

It's one of those things I wouldn't be too surprised when they happen, but only then. Before that time it's just an unconfirmed rumor and I see no point to investing any significant amount of energy in caring about it.

Clarste One Winged Egret Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
Jun 29th 2020 at 6:30:14 PM

I agree. It does kind of make sense that he'd want to avoid a humiliating electoral loss by stepping down on his own terms, but I also don't see the point in reading too much into this. If it happens, it happens.


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