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So, since this is an election year, I figured we needed an election thread to keep track of what's going on in the weird and wonderful world of American politics. You know, share and discuss recent news stories and other details of the whole thingy.
Oh, and finally, there was in fact an earlier thread on this topic, but it got locked due to severe incivility. So I know people around here can get... passionate about politics, but let's play nice, OK?
edited 12th Mar '16 2:10:35 AM by SeptimusHeap
Election year? Uh, it's still 2011.
Ah, my bad. I keep forgetting that the election is late in 2012 rather than early. Explains some of the lack of activity so far.
Still, a worthwhile thread to have, no?
The republican candidates are already campaigning, so it actually is a worthwhile thread to have.
Well, there will be some elections shortly, the recall ones.
But the 2012 field is far from being set, though plenty of candidates are in the field.
I wan an incompetent Republican cantidate so Obama wins again.
So long as it's a candidate unaffiliated with the Tea Party, I can sleep easier.
Erock: You already have your wish. The majority of their canidates are lunatics. Two of them have stated they want a theoacracy in so many words. The rest are just spouting standard party lines.
I keep forgetting the guys name. They have one sort of reasonable canidate but they don't consider him republican enough.
edited 10th Jul '11 7:05:19 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Mitt Romney? Or was it the guy that Tomu was talking about, Huntsman?
Romney is just as crazy, but subtly so. He wants to privatize FEMA.
^ The Repubs are testing the waters for privatizing all government services. Frankly Romney looks like Churchill next to those other clowns.
Mitt Romney is the least insane so I think he'll get it.
I want Bachmann to get the nomination though.
Crap like this makes it hilarious.
They can privatize it for the corporate vultures over my dead body. I would sooner take up arms then let them give corporations more power over the people.
Worse than that, the entire point is to provide disaster relief. How the heck would whatever corporation that takes over make a profit?! By billing the Federal Government for as much as they can.
I'm just gonna pretend the entire republican party are big fans of Shadow Run
FEMA isn't the most powerful agency by a long shot. Its budget is peanuts, and actually, the consent of the state's governor is required before the president can do anything off Federal property.
They barely have the personnel to do their job.
edited 10th Jul '11 8:09:26 PM by blueharp
@Post 11's link: Sharia law? What in the fuck does that have to do with anything? That deserves a double face palm.
I'm tempted to switch to Republican so I can vote in the primaries. Too bad I don't live in Iowa or New Hampshire.
^^^ Which was the biggest problem during Hurricane Katrina. The city of New Orleans did not give permission for FEMA to do its stuff until long after the Lower Ninth Ward was flooded. The blame for that disaster always had rested purely on the local level. It wasn't George W. Bush responsible for that, it was Ray Nagin.
edited 10th Jul '11 8:08:59 PM by MajorTom
Let's stick to election coverage, as last I checked, Nagin wasn't running. Nor Blanco.* But neither of them ordered 100 million dollars worth of ice and didn't deliver it. And of course, with much of the Louisiana National Guard deployed to Iraq, well...that didn't help.
Anyway, people shouldn't forget that there's several hundred other offices up for election. Including some new-ish ones with redistricting changes. Anybody going to be in a new House district yet?
edited 10th Jul '11 8:20:35 PM by blueharp
Bachmann and Romney seem to be the front-runners, assuming Huckabee stays out of the race; looking forward to seeing what they ave to say later on.
^ Never assume the front-runners today will be the nominees in June next year. Remember, at this point in the 2008 election Barack Obama was a nobody compared to the likes of Hillary Clinton and others.
edited 10th Jul '11 8:33:36 PM by MajorTom
Ah, those were the good ol days.
Well, I think I'm not going out on a limb here by stating that the party likely to keep Congress is the party that the voting public hates less. One factor to keep in mind is that it is a presidential election year, which means higher turnout, which is generally good for Dems.
For the Presidential election, the success of the incumbent party is tied to unemployment numbers, but not very tightly; the jobs numbers are going to hamstring Obama but they won't doom him. If the Republicans nominate a fringe candidate, like Bachmann, Obama shouldn't have too much trouble getting elected. However, if someone perceived as moderate gets nominated, they'll have a real chance.
Personally, I think the candidate with the best chance is Huntsman, but as Tomu has said, he's not likely to get the nomination. Romney has the best chance to get the nomination, but if voters perceive him as a flip-flopper or an opportunist then Obama might sneak in for another term.
(As for my desired outcome, I'm kind of with Tomu–I'd like the Dems to take the House back, but have Huntsman in the White House.)
This is why politics and politicians of any stripe in general always leave a bad taste in my mouth. I literally do not see any political group or person worthy of leading the nation running for it.
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