Assassin's Creed

Awww thaletas stays dead? Boo

So do these characters actually get resurrected, or is it just a trick by Persephone?

Also, the whole underlying thought that the entirety of the planet is, essentially, a simulation that the ISU manipulate regularly.

All their "timey-wimey" tech stuff is frustrating and yet great. Unlike Destiny, the Ubisoft guys seem happy to actually thread their batshit lore INTO the game more directly.

I have a feeling the Elysium we see is both real AND a simulation - a record of what happened in Elysium AND some sort of reincarnation repeat of the cycle. They keep calling you Keeper rather than "Alexios / Kassandra" suggesting it's a bit... placeholder-y?

I think those are real Isu and you are seeing what happened there. Or rather I think it is an afterlife with human minds being uploaded into it as they die. So I think that's the ACTUAL Leonidas, Brasidas, Phoebe - or copies of their minds at the point of death at least.

Actually, the Keeper thing is probably just cheapness on Ubisoft's part regarding not having to regard a lot of lines twice. Notice how often people call you "misthios" or "eagle bearer" in the game. Once you start paying attention to it, it becomes VERY obvious that characters are avoiding saying your PC's name.

In an odd aversion of this, at the same time, guards looking for you WILL know your gender and use appropriate pronouns. Of course, there are only a limited number of lines for them.

Yeah, I'm just trying to incorporate that cheapness into head canon ;)

Tartarus will be an interesting switch from Elysium I think. I didn't like the darker parts of the Curse DLC (I mean dark as in NOT LIT) under ground bits, so hopefully Tartarus / Hades proper can be a bit more varied.

And I'd hope someone asks "Are those ACTUALLY ISU. Is this something that happened?"

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of the dark locations, either. I detest caves for the same reason, really.

Hey guys, I'm heading to the Silver Isles after I finish up on the Pirate Islands, and after reading the new Guide Dang It! entry regarding the questline, I have to ask...how do I get the best ending for the Silver Islands questline?

I already know about not romancing either Kyra or Thethanus and not exposing Kyra being Prodrokles' daughter to the Resistance, but is there anything else I need to do?

There's plenty of good guides out there for the different options.

There's a sidequest Socrates gives you called "The Sokratic Method." If you save the rebel and let him go, he'll try to do a Bad Thing later (not sure how many spoilers you want). Also, BTW, I romanced Thaletas and managed to get the 'best ending,' but it's tricky.

To be honest, I tend to use a guide on all these choices. I want to see the best ending, and the writers love to subvert the obvious "right choice", or subvert choices that DID work in other situations.

That's the problem with this kind of RPG, which has an obviously best ending. There's no real incentive to make the alternative choice in such a situation.

Also, looking at the PS 4 trophy stats, not a lot of people are playing the DLC, or finishing it, at least. Pretty much all trophies stay under 5 percent of total players.

Edited by Redmess on May 13th 2019 at 3:32:25 PM

Oh I know about the insane rebel and the Bad Thing he does. It was reading about him on the game's main page that prompted me to ask this question. What really boggles me though is how he only does the Bad Thing if you pick a very specific dialogue option at the very end of the final quest in the questline. That's like Witcher levels of "seemingly innocent decision ends up having absurdly disastrous consequences".

What bugged me about the crazy guy quest wasn't the random impact later on, but the fact that I would've happily walked away and left him to be executed except that I hate having incomplete quests in my quest log. Hate. It. So I rescued him, bloodlessly. Then killed him.

I don't like having choices which lead to random stuff happening - that just makes me save scum. But I do like having some kind of better-than-average ending to a questline that can be achieved through extra effort. In fact, that's what gameplay really consists of for me, using the tools given to manipulate the story and get the best possible outcome. All the fighting/sneaking/etc. is just filler (and normally pretty boring).

It bugs me that all your lovers don't exist outside their loyalty mission. Thaletas was one thing, but lykaon? He's the village doctor! What are they going to do for their physician needs?

Lykaon was my favorite. I at least wanted to bring him along on the ship. Could've used a doctor.

Never mind your lovers, your FAMILY doesn't exist outside their story missions. And with the DLC, your SECOND family doesn't exist outside of their missions, either.

It's really weird having effectively two parallel family storylines which don't interact in any way, and the acknowledgement of each would greatly diminish the gravity of the other.

Like, it's really hard to take emotional turmoil over being "all alone" in the world when your entire family is aboard your ship, or yearning for a family when your husband and baby are still around.

Alright, I splurged and got Assassin's Creed: Origins for 21 cold ones.

Let's see how these new role-playing games elements integrate themselves into the Assassin Creed series. At the very least, for more then one night.

Edited by fredhot16 on May 15th 2019 at 6:34:29 AM

The first major choice you'll likely come across is a trick choice, a bit of a gotcha, and will lead to a downer ending for Noob Island.

Most other choices aren't that devious, thankfully, but there are still a few, most notably involving killing a certain character in a certain way.

The best way to figure out what the best choices are is to remember that you are Spartan, you want to stay a Spartan, and you put family above all else. You can forget about becoming Athenian at any rate, it's not an option.

None of what you just said applies to Origins.

Oops, my bad.

Origins is great, but it is a linear story. No game changing choices or dialog options. I think that works much better for an AC game, which wants to tell a linear story, anyway. At least with Origins, you have no awkward storyline clashes with the DLC.

I think Origins is a better game than Odyssey in many small ways. The loot system isn't half as obnoxious, tombs are generally more varied and interesting, and you can still hide in haystacks, to name a few things.

Ancient Egyptian afterlife!

I don't really agree. I find Odyssey has much better combat. And also makes way better use of the historical figures in the supporting cast. I find both Origin and Odyssey's gear system have the same flaw - 95% of the stuff you find is vendor trash and the player's not encourage to use anything but the legendary weapons and keep upgrading those / cycling to whatever is the highest level gear. Plus more naval combat.

And while it has flaws (Such as the hetconning), I do find Odyssey's plot more engaging than Origin's "Assassin gets revenge on people who wronged him, Version 3".

Uh, how about First Assassin founds the Assassin Order with his badass Assassin Wife

I agree the story is better, but the gameplay mechanics are generally more shallow than they were in previous incarnations, most notably naval combat. Even combat, while being improved, has dropped the shield mechanic.

You mean how completely underwhelming the birth of the Order was? Coz that seriously failed to deliver. 90% of the plot a revenge story that's not only by this point been done several times in the series, but been done better. The remaining 10% is the birth of the Assassin Order, which I found super underwhelming (Hey, look at those other original assassins who are basically Randos you did 2 mission with each).

Origins' not a bad game, but Odyssey has the better gameplay and the better plot.

And isntead has given you a plethora of moves you can combo with. And even then, you can still block, and that's core part of combat, so really it'd dropped practically nothing.

I did lean heavily on "charge heavy attack while hiding behind shield" in Origins. I was a bit mad i couldn't do that in the game where that would actually have made sense