First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
And wouldn't this be more of a Bad Conduct discharge (if she was in active service), whereas the Duck Dinner is usually reserved for that equivalent of felony convictions?
edited 18th Jun '18 9:27:17 AM by Rationalinsanity
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Even a BCD needs a court martial; had she completed basic training, it would probably be an Other Than Honorable, which would strip her of future government employment, GI Bill, and VA benefits. Since she was still in basic training, my guess is they went with a straight admin discharge, probably claiming falsification of something in her paperwork as grounds.
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Ugh. A lot of angry Peruvians are mocking France in revenge from the beating us in the World Cup...by mocking their Afro-descendent players.
Peruvians. Latin Americans with a relatively diverse team with a fair amount of Afro-descendent players, mocking a country for having Afro-descendent players.
Latin America apparently had the right to be proud of being diverse, but if Europeans do it, we mock them?
Sometimes, I hate my own people.
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Racism always seems to be, "We're fine, they suck."
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So it's not just other Europeans (*cough*Italy*cough*) who play the "They're not even really French" card? Interesting.
Well, they can f*** right off (whether they're in France, the rest of Europe, or elsewhere). Even Jacques Chirac (who had previously made racist remarks about immigrants) was all for the "Black Blanc Beur" team in '98 ("Beur" a deformation of "Arab", refers to people of North African descent, mostly from the former French colonies of Algeria, Morocca and Tunisia).
edited 22nd Jun '18 2:27:05 AM by Khudzlin
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Lets say, the World Cup brings up all the nationalism and attached racism issues whenever you discuss any national team.
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And memes. Tons of memes.
It can be funny if handled well, otherwise, is awful
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Old news by a bit of a year now, but I'm sharing this news regarding the Indianapolis PD recruiting its first Sikh-American officer into the force.
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https://ph.news.yahoo.com/calls-calm-french-police-killing-sparks-riots-101956586.html
A Police Nationale officer is charged with murdering a French-African man since he didn't resist arrest. Testimony from him said that he accidentally discharged his sidearm.
"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
"Accidentally", huh. At least they're charging him in France.
Oh, bother.
"Accidentally"...yeah, I'm calling bullshit too.
Disgusted, but not surprised
wait...since he didn't resist arrest? That's textbook murder, holy shit.
Even if it was completely accidental that's still involuntary manlaughter due to improperly following protocols.
The story is basically:
- Told a bullshit story about killing him resisting arrest
- The story he told officially was he accidentally fired his gun, so he's lying either way.
- Then a witness says he fired into an unmoving car.
Yes, this was murder plain and simple.
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The officer involved is subjected to a conditional release since the incident is being investigated with the riots happening.
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So I saw ant man. Jimmy woo’s a bit of a goof but overall he’s a Hero Antagonist trying to do his job. Luis is annoying comic relief but he does actually pull his weight and help the good guys considerably.
In short it’s actually pretty good with race matters
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The officer is now charged with manslaughter, according to the lawyer after being investigated by the PN in Paris.
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Even by his own testimony he is definitely guilty of that. So that is a guilty plea, right?
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Cross posting this from the US Politics thread: another black person has been profiled, this time by an off-duty cop while at his own apartment complex, with the complex manager backing up the police officer.
Shayne Holland has been a resident of the River Crossing at Keystone apartment complex for more than a year. On July 6, he was relaxing in a pool chair when a white woman working as security—later identified as an off-duty officer from the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department—approached and asked him if he was a resident of the complex.
“When she asked where I lived, I said I don’t know you and you haven’t identified yourself, so I’m not just going to give you my address,” Holland told the Indianapolis Star. However, he did show her his complex-issued key, which grants him access to the pool, and told her she could test the key as proof of his residence.
At that point, the police officer contacted the apartment office to further verify his residency, and Holland began filming the altercation. He posted several videos of the incident on Twitter.
“What’s your address?” the officer can be heard asking Holland in the video.
“What’s your badge number?” Holland replies, without missing a beat.
When the apartment manager arrived at the pool, she confirmed to the officer that Holland lives at the complex. Rather than settle the matter, however, the dispute only escalated from there.
Next, the officer told Holland he needed to leave the area because he would not tell her his address. The apartment manager sided with the officer. In one of the videos, the apartment manager tells Holland, “You didn’t answer her question.”
Holland responds, “Why do I need to give this lady who I don’t know my address?”
“I just don’t feel like I’m welcome,” Holland says to the apartment manager in the video, and he asks the two women to try to see the situation from his perspective.
The apartment manager notes that a “sign says I can ask anybody to leave [the pool] at any time” and tells Holland to leave immediately. She can also be heard telling Holland to shut up when he says that he feels threatened and cites how frequently black people die in altercations with police officers. When Holland again holds up his key as proof of his residency, the police officer can be seen snatching it out of his hand.
Alex Stokely, the vice president of the company that oversees the River Crossing complex, told the Indianapolis Star that the apartment manager has been placed on leave and that an internal investigation is being conducted.
Swimming pools have a long, racist history dating back to the 19th and 20th centuries, when black Americans were often barred from using pools, and there are many examples of both police officers and white swimmers confronting and even beating black swimmers. In an infamous case in 1964, a hotel owner in Florida poured acid into a whites-only swimming pool in an attempt to force black civil rights protesters out of the water.
These racist incidents are still unfortunately common today. On July 4, a white man in North Carolina called the police alleging that a black woman swimming at a community pool was not authorized to be there. (She was.) In a widely reported 2015 incident, someone called the police on a group of black teens attending a pool party in Mc Kinney, Texas. When the police arrived, an officer cursed out the teens and slammed a young black woman to the ground before drawing his gun on the crowd.
Holland expressed frustration with the way he was treated at his apartment complex last week. “It’s extremely frustrating. … I’m from a place where we didn’t have a pool in the neighborhood. Now that I’m at an age and a place where I can afford to attain that, I still have to deal with being profiled,” he told the Indianapolis Star. “I feel like more and more people in 2018 are comfortable telling young African-Americans what they should and should not be doing.”
Well that's terrible, simply more reason for me to despise the (white) people who insist that racism is totally a thing of the past. They're directly responsible for incidents like this.
Hopefully the officer in question faces as much punishment and negative consequences as possible.
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Add "lounging while black" to the list of things we are not allowed to do.
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Oh, bother.
Any bets as to what the justifications those two asshats will offer in an attempt to prove they weren't being racist (bullshit) are going to be?
Heck, that article's comments section has a bunch of morons going "He was too mean to her" as an excuse. SMH
Disgusted, but not surprised
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The same justifications they always give: "He was breaking the law"/"I felt threatened".
To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."
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If she was still in basic training, they probably just administratively separated her. She did wrong, but it's not severe enough to merit a court martial for a full-on Dishonorable Discharge.
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