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Only tangentially related but somewhat relevant regardless, that Playable Teaser (P.T.) thing for the Kojima "Silent Hills" game is now set to be wiped from PSN come Wednesday for completely undisclosed reasons

Oh geez. I've heard about that.

Sigh, the guys at the Silent Hills thread are so gonna hate those news...

No

Seriously

Who's cereal did Kojima shit in to get this level of shit on him, because holy fuck.

Yeah, I too am wondering what on earth did Kojima do to earn all this unpersoning from Konami. There weren't any signs of tensions between him and the company before this whole fiasco, were there?

If any of you want to play P.T. at any point after the 29th but doesn't have a PS 4, make a PSN account and get the game through the PSN webstore page to put it in your download list. They could take it off your download list, but it's more likely they are just unlisting the game.

Also, I think the unlisting date has been known since a long time before the Kojima kerfuffle.

Kojima's had it pretty good compared to other Konami creators.

And I've heard rumors that some of this has to do with Metal Gear Rising.

Kojima hands a project off to the B-team without direct supervision, has nothing to show for it after 3 or four years, spending a lot of money on in-house development, then hands it off to some other developer.

Somehow, I see Konami really REALLY quickly backpedalling and trying to get Kojima back in the company when Phantom Pain comes out and does so damn well that Konami kicks themselves in the balls for letting loose the goose that lays golden eggs.

Maybe they decided that more Yugioh and Pro Evolution Soccer is a less risky business model than Kojima's brand of crazy.

I get the feeling they're gonna regret flatout dropping, shunning and scrubbing away Kojima's brand of crazy once TPP breaks the few billion mark.

Kojima had better get paid well for his efforts. If Konami decide not to pay him on top of all this, I will be pissed.

I don't think Konami can get Kojima back, even if they tried. And that's a shame, because there hasn't been a decent Yu-Gi-Oh game since the Gameboy Advance (or maybe the DS, idk). RIP Konami, 19?? - 2015.

On a Konami-focused note, what's this about the company undergoing "re-structuring of [its] video game operations to focus on a geocentric operational model" that Wikipedia is talking about?

From what I gather, pretty much that all decisions of the company will be handled by the guys on top instead of by the directors of the games(also that there aren't separate studios working on stuff, it's all Konami Studio 1, 2 etc). If for example Kojima wanted to add a MP game mode where you hunt monkeys he would have to ask Konami, wait for a response while they debate for a few days and then do what they say about everything instead of just adding it and seeing if it works and then deciding to keep it or drop it.

Edit: Think of it like the Marvel movies. At first the directors could do what they wanted but once Disney understood there was money to be made they started giving the directors direction on things that the movies had to have(stuff like "Iron Man and Thor must fight once so we can play it up in the trailers, Iron Man must get a new suit by the end of each movie so we can sell it as a toy, you have to kill this character because we're planning to bring him back for a TV series" etc).

edited 26th Apr '15 7:14:14 AM by LordofLore

Sounds awful

That is actually ass-backwards. I tend to use hyperbole when I say stuff like that, but I honestly believe that is a terrible decision.

Like it worked for Nintendo in the 80's, when games weren't as well-defined as they are today, but it's 2015. A company with multiple teams and multiple project heads like Kojima is just going to get stale and repetitive, unless those higher-ups know some damn good video-game knowledge. But it's hard to have any sort of faith in the company when they're trashing Kojima as hard as they are. This is bureaucracy at its finest.

I've been shitposting a lot. Everything I've said about Konami has been from the heart and legitimate, but I've generally been goofing around a lot lately, like my last post. I'm absolutely serious when I say this - Konami doesn't have a leg to stand on, and I honest-to-god think that they're going to fold like a house of cards in a tornado due to this god-awful business plan.

Kinda reminds me of SEELE. Also, isn't that what Capcom's doing? Or is that another story?

EDIT: Just got P.T. by doing what Runo Eddie said.

Yeah, there may be some factors such as A) I don't have a PS 4, and I probably won't get one anytime soon since I'm quite satisfied with my PS 3. B) I'm not exactly keen about M rated games, let alone anything that's up P.T.'s alley of creepy turnip babies in dirty bathrooms and ghosts getting the jump on you if you let them. But hey, it's free! And they're taking it out of the store, so why not? Besides, maybe one day, I'll feel pretty darn brave and...attempt it.

...maybe.

edited 26th Apr '15 7:26:13 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Wait, why call this structure "geocentric" when it's just hierarchial?

Because it sounds less oppressive, probably.

Probably because everything is ruled by the main HQ.

Sub-hierarchies based on markets and/or continents, I suppose.

So while many publishers today are moving towards greater studio autonomy (even EA has been doing that for a good while), Konami appears to be headed in the opposite direction. What.

Sorry, EA and C&C is still a very sore topic for me.

edited 26th Apr '15 7:55:12 AM by MarqFJA

Didn't they liquidate Maxis too?

What happened with Westwood, EA LA, (BioWare) Victory and the transitions between the three were internal politics for the first two (namely tensions between Westwood Pacific and Las Vegas, and the politicking that led to the Tiberium debacle and the forced retooling of an MMO into C&C 4), and flat-out rejection of Generals 2 by a not-insignificant part of the C&C community coupled with more internal politics.

The studio responsible for The Sims had been operating autonomously of the main Maxis operation for a while, and is now simply known as The Sims Studio.

Yes, I can't believe that they have at least been trying at it for 7 years now.

edited 26th Apr '15 8:25:28 AM by Krieger22

Something someone brought up on another forum: Do you think they'll remove or replace the Lisa Decoy from the game now that Silent Hills looks to be a lost cause and the P.T. demo is being removed from the PS Store?

I don't understand. It's almost as if Konami doesn't want a profitable videogames department.

edited 26th Apr '15 10:40:09 AM by TheAirman

Guillermo Del Toro appears to have confirmed Silent Hills is dead.