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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#3626: Apr 10th 2015 at 12:54:44 PM

Speaking of, the singer of that song said something foreboding.

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MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
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#3627: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:05:15 PM

If this turns out to be the craziest publicity stunt Kojima has ever pulled, I'm pretty sure someone will actually try and assassinate the dude.

I doubt it is, but imagine the chaos.

I hope Kojima's going to be okay. He's still got a few months left on the inside.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#3628: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:10:36 PM

[up]I wouldn't put it past them.

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OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#3629: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:15:59 PM

Kojima has helped define both the stealth genre and narratively driven games, and has been on technical edge for a long time. Sony and Microsoft would bend over backwards to get him, Sony especially after the PT demo. Honestly though I think Kojima will go independent like Kamiya did, working with publishers on a game by game basis rather than being bought by another company.

nyo ho ho
MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
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#3630: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:24:59 PM

Kojima builds a company for other freelance game-makers like Keiji Inafune and Hideki Kamiya, as well as the other game devs who have been jerked around by their company and who want out. No corporation, no greed, no ideology. They work where they're needed, working not for corporate, but for themselves.

They need no reason to make games. They make games because they are wanted.

It's their only home. Their heaven and their hell.

This is Outer Heaven Productions.

edited 10th Apr '15 2:25:47 PM by MrMallard

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#3631: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:33:06 PM

Their studio is in a plant in the middle of the ocean.

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#3632: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:42:34 PM

Real talk though with Kojima let go like this and a reputation of his kind there will be a legit mad scramble to buy him and his rights up and all that. I reckon he'll probably go with whoever's the least shittiest with him

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HellmanSabian Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
#3633: Apr 10th 2015 at 2:55:47 PM

And then he can finally make other games. I bet the guy sees Metal Gear Solid whenever he closes his eyes at this point.

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#3634: Apr 10th 2015 at 4:21:28 PM

I agree with those who say that he should follow Platinum Games' example: A small indie studio with a dynamic, efficiency- and creativity-emphasizing, and most importantly friendly and hospitable environment for developers to do their work.

I wish I had a link to this one article that talked to great length about why the example set by Platinum Games is such a good thing. It went in-depth regarding its organizational structure, internal practices, and what not.

edited 10th Apr '15 4:22:50 PM by MarqFJA

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#3635: Apr 10th 2015 at 4:38:23 PM

Kojima builds a company for other freelance game-makers like Keiji Inafune and Hideki Kamiya, as well as the other game devs who have been jerked around by their company and who want out. No corporation, no greed, no ideology. They work where they're needed, working not for corporate, but for themselves.

They need no reason to make games. They make games because they are wanted.

It's their only home. Their heaven and their hell.

This is Outer Heaven Productions.

[awesome][awesome][awesome][awesome][awesome]

And Masahiro Sakurai joins them.

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#3636: Apr 10th 2015 at 4:40:09 PM

And Tetsuya Nomura. And they proceed to troll the industry to death.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#3637: Apr 11th 2015 at 8:48:46 PM

[up]Is Nomura stuck on FF and/or KH and wants out?

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#3638: Apr 11th 2015 at 8:58:37 PM

nomura's not really a troll in the same vein kojima is...i cant really think of anything actually trolly he's done besides turn KH's plot into a mess :v

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#3639: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:01:34 PM

In the final fantasy thread we basically came to the conclusion that Nomura is one of the most normal people currently working at Square Enix.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#3640: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:13:09 PM

[up][up][up]I'll take it you haven't heard about what happened with FFXV?

[up][up]There was that time he put a luck-based SNK Boss in the Western-release of BBS for fans who were upset about Japan always getting exclusive content. And then made another version of said game with even more content exlusive to Japan anyways.

Although to be fair, he does genuinely care about the international audience and simple couldn't release the Final Mix games until now due to Sony's policies and straight had a game (that he conceived while drunk) remade for the DS so that people outside Japan could play it.

[up] Basically that.

Also, Nomura and Kojima are besties. They go out to dinner together and stuff.

edited 11th Apr '15 9:27:04 PM by TheAirman

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#3641: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:14:47 PM

actually, yes. he seems like a pretty normal japanese craftsman to me. sure he draws eccentric things but that's par for the norm in jrpg's anyway.

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#3642: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:31:15 PM

Didn't he also want to make FFXV in a musical a la Les Miserables?

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#3643: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:34:45 PM

He was joking when he said that, although I don't doubt he imagined it. Also, this site is the only source I've yet seen for him saying that.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#3645: Apr 12th 2015 at 5:17:03 PM

So back on (kind-of) topic. Would Goichi Suda also join Kojima's hypothetical studio for beleaguered Japanese developers?

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#3646: Apr 12th 2015 at 10:54:28 PM

Suda's got his own successful company so I'd think Kojima would join him, either that or Join up with Platinum so he could technically still work on Metal Gear.

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#3647: Apr 12th 2015 at 11:11:19 PM

Platinum may have developed Revengeance, but Konami still calls all the shots. If anything, Kojima going to Platinum would guarentee that MGR 2 never happens.

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MrMallard wak from Australia, mate Since: Oct, 2010
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#3648: Apr 13th 2015 at 6:35:41 AM

The thing about Kojima joining with any other similar devs is that if any of them actually teamed up on a game, nothing would ever get done and rampant egotism would tear the company apart. If the funny hypothetical of Kojima starting a studio with all of these big-name devs who've been jerked around were to happen, they'd need to be independent forces with control over a unit of workers each. It'd be less of a studio and more like three or so studios under different leaders, making games under one name.

So maybe if they just created their own small-scale publisher and had Kojima Productions, Platinum Games etc. publishing games through that. I doubt Hideo Kojima, Suda51 and Hideki Kamiya would get along with each other if they were to work together on one big project - they're all such big names, and they all seem so stubborn.

edited 13th Apr '15 6:36:59 AM by MrMallard

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#3649: Apr 13th 2015 at 9:29:49 AM

I don't know much about suda but kojima and kamiya both have enormous egos. maybe a small collaboration would work but a full-on game project might end up a disaster.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#3650: Apr 13th 2015 at 9:34:16 AM

I thought Kamiya was a Kojima fanboy?

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