on an unrelated note

swolf, a google search for your avatar brings up one "young walter hellsing"

seems about right◊

i think i mostly want to see what happens when this whole place breaks apart

I approve.

This is a signature.

good news!

Yay!

That's because it doesn't really exist. "Demisexual" is a word invented by desperate-for-attention teens on Tumblr who wanted to feel SUPAAH SPESHUL for absolutely nothing.

"Oh man, I need a deep emotional connection to feel love!" Congratulations, every other person on the planet does. You are not special.

I do not get this term at all. If you're attracted to both sexes, you're bisexual, it's as simple as that. It doesn't matter how heavily weighted towards one sex you are. This term reeks of biphobia, to be honest: "No, I can't be bisexual! I must be monosexual, I just like to look at the other sex sometimes! NO HOMO BI"

Getting tired of seeing teenagers come up with endless terms just so they can avoid calling themselves the dreaded "b-word".

edited 11th Feb '15 3:30:56 PM by Frostav

Varśnāmi, nūdhrēmnāyīm eyī —"With the pen, I reach satisfaction"

Homoflexible is about there being the potential to be attracted to members of the opposite sex, but not having the full capability to do so for every member of that sex. It exists for a reason and isn't about edgy teenagers, and often isn't about biphobia because they often don't feel themselves able to be attracted to one sex all that often, with some needing a checklist before they can say If It's You, It's Okay.

"Did you expect somebody else?"

Except that's not what demisexual means. Demisexual is that there must be that emotional connection for sexual attraction. Not romantic attraction, sexual attraction. Do not conflate the two.

Also fuck the "It's made up by Tumblr" shit, because that's quite often used against concepts coined in academia.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:37:30 PM by Sixthhokage1

Varśnāmi, nūdhrēmnāyīm eyī —"With the pen, I reach satisfaction"

It absolutely is a continuum.

From a bi person: shut the fuck up, you're being an idiot.

Homoflexible and demisexual are acceptable terms, according to:

* Bauermeister, J. A., Yeagley, E., Meanley, S., & Pingel, E. S. (2014). 'Sexting among young men who have sex with men: Results from a national survey' Journal of Adolescent Health 54(5), 606-611.

YOU JUST GOT PSYCHOLGY'D

This is going to be my catchphrase when I use research against people.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:45:19 PM by Inhopelessguy

That's the thing, though—I have never been attracted to a woman, I'm just open to the possibility that someday I might be. I can realistically see myself falling in love with a woman, maybe, if she was just the right woman. Likewise for anybody who doesn't fall into a binary gender/sex/whatever identity—it hasn't happened, and I don't go looking for porn with women because lolilikedicks, but I'm, well, agnostic about the possibility.

So "I'm monosexual I just like to look at boobies" doesn't apply, because I don't, outside of an artistic context (and no, I don't feel any stirring in my naughty bits when I see artistic nudes of women, so I know I'm not just rationalizing an attraction to women).

Also, this vitriol smacks of insecurity—I don't mean that as an insult, I'm just saying, you choose your own identity, no one else. If you're mad because someone says you're not bisexual because of some constrained definition, fuck 'em. Let them define themselves.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:45:45 PM by SolipSchism

Varśnāmi, nūdhrēmnāyīm eyī —"With the pen, I reach satisfaction"

OK, I'm going to officially draw a line under this topic before it gets any more out of hand.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

On bisexuality and it being a scale or continuum.

Worthington, R. L., Dillon, F. R., & Becker-Schutte, A. M. (2005). Development, Reliability, and Validity of the Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Knowledge and Attitudes Scale for Heterosexuals (LGB-KASH). Journal of Counseling Psychology, 52(1), 104.

Mohr, J. J., & Kendra, M. S. (2011). Revision and extension of a multidimensional measure of sexual minority identity: the Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Identity Scale. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 58(2), 234.

Klein, F. (2014). Are You Sure You’re Heterosexual? Or Homosexual? Or Even Bisexual?. Journal of Bisexuality, 14(3-4), 341-346.

YOU JUST GOT PSYCHOLOGY'D

Awww. I was having fun. But okay-dokay.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:50:51 PM by Inhopelessguy

Demisexual was coined on the forums for the Asexuality Visibility and Education Network

And there's a reason that things like the Kinsey scale, first published in 1948, and the Klien Sexual Orientation Grid, first published in 1978, exist. Different people experience sexuality in different ways, and may not feel like a particular label adequately describes their experience.

I'm not gonna sit here and let you just shit on other queer people. Yeah, there's a lot of biphobia from gay people, guess what? That doesn't make it okay to lash out against other identities.

Varśnāmi, nūdhrēmnāyīm eyī —"With the pen, I reach satisfaction"

Debating is one thing, but you are being quite sweary and aggressive.

And before anyone accuses me of favoritism, six is also being sweary and aggressive.

Can't we all just get along? :D

edited 11th Feb '15 3:54:16 PM by SolipSchism

In addition to the three I cited, there are approximately 3000 studies that look at sexuality as a scale or continuum.

You can't win, man.

Unless you are more aware of how sexuality works better than hundreds of researchers, and millions of person-hours of work, then you have no possible retort.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:54:50 PM by Inhopelessguy

Debate implies some flexibility. Constantly going "you're wrong because you disagree with me" and not even acknowledging the opposing side's points is not debate.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

People who have suffered due to their closest "allies" tend to be very indignant, yes.

I apologize for getting very aggressive, but this is something which is very, very personal to me.

Varśnāmi, nūdhrēmnāyīm eyī —"With the pen, I reach satisfaction"

EDIT: Seems like that's been covered, so nevermind. Thread full of ninjas. GAY Ninjas.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:56:24 PM by kegisak

Birthright: an original web novel about Dragons, the Burdens of Leadership, and Mangoes.

Given how you insulted and misinterpreted me, I was trying very hard not to lash out in response because I didn't feel myself capable of an actual decent one.

Excuse me while I go to cool off.

"Did you expect somebody else?"

Frostav, you have yet to respond to the point I made, which is that I have cited three studies supporting my viewpoint. Do you have anything at all - beyond your gut feeling - to support yours?

I can cite even more to make my point. There is a whole battery of research arguing against your very view. It is an established norm in Psychological & Behavioural Sciences that sexuality is a continuum.

edited 11th Feb '15 3:56:53 PM by Inhopelessguy

I THINK THE UNITED STATES NEEDS A QUEER PRESIDENT

AND THE UNITED KINGDOM NEEDS A QUEER PRIME MINISTER

AND THEY NEED TO HANG OUT ON WEEKENDS AND TAKE SELFIES AT DRAG SHOWS

DISCUSS

HOW MANY MARKS IS THIS ESSAY, DAD

WILL I GET SWEETIES INSTEAD OF MARKS

edited 11th Feb '15 3:58:18 PM by Inhopelessguy