Justice League

Does anyone remember the movie Justice League God and Monsters. It have a very interesting backstory for Superman. He is Zod son, instead of been found and raise by the Kents, he was raise by a family of poor Mexican immigrants. Seeing how his family being treated by society around him make him have a more cynical outlook on life. he also accidentally make his sister's leg paralyzed due to not knowing his strength also make him more distain himself from normal human. Yet he still pretty heroic, more pragmatic but still heroic, also he is religious. I think it a way better way to make Superman more dark and serious but still keep his value and character image. The batman in that film also pretty cool.

So...since the DCEU is now officially dead, what do you think it will be? A bunch of completely unconnected stand alone movies or will they try again? Maybe in a "let's pretend that only Wonder Woman and Aquaman is a thing" fashion?

Edited by Swanpride on May 31st 2019 at 8:09:58 AM

This thread is for the live-action DC movies. Gods and Monsters is animated. I think your time is better spent in this thread made explicitly for DC animated movies.

I mean, we still have Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa, and Margot Robbie as Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Harley Quinn, so "dead" is kind of stretching it IMO. But admittedly, after the stumbling that is JL and the leaving of Cavill and Affleck, it might be a ways before we get another Justice League movie...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 31st 2019 at 11:12:27 AM

And The Batman is supposed to take place in the '90s, so Pattinson could be the same Batman that Affleck was, just at a younger age.

I still won't be surprised if the Bruce Wayne that meets Gal Gadot!Diana Prince later down the line will end up being Pattinson.

EDIT: Oh and according to the article posted on the last page, we seem to be looking at a Batman trilogy that probably should've been the course of action when we had Affleck, but whatever!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 31st 2019 at 11:29:25 AM

Alas we can't really have the time gap excuse to replace Cavill… Any future appearance of Supes will be a sort of "MCU Hulk" situation I guess.

Regretfully, yeah.

Actually, it might be too early to tell, but anyone think they really will pretend BVS or JL ever happened and chalk it off to canon discontinuity?

I think it is a possibility...though, frankly, the smart thing to do would be to just do an all around reboot with ALL of it. Like, we do a Batman movie, a Wonder Woman movie, A Suicide Squad movie, and Aquaman movie and a Superman movie using the best elements of everything which came beforehand (meaning certain actors and the implication that the origin stories of the various characters are more or less what the audience has already seen), and that is then the basis for a new story.

Just for clarification, while it being a 90s period piece has been widely speculated, Reeves has never actually confirmed that. In fact, he's been flip floppy about how it fits into continuity (initially saying it'd be its own thing, then later claiming it will be in the DCEU).

For all we know it could be a soft reboot.

Matt Reeves never actually went on the record that his Batman movie was set in the 90's?

That's...an interesting point to make.

...The plot thickens.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 31st 2019 at 1:42:46 PM

All Reeves ever said about the canonical placement of the movie are thus:

He then walked back on that on Twitter with this:

The assumption that the film will be set in the 90s is based largely on the idea that it would essentially be a prequel to Batman v. Superman featuring a younger version of the same Batman played by Affleck, but he never actually said that. And with so much change rocking the franchise (unless I'm wrong, today is supposedly the last day for Ezra Miller and Ray Fisher to get new contracts), it could go either way.

BTW this was buried at the bottom of the Deadline piece announcing Pattinson's casting.

So make of that what you will.

Ben Affleck goes into the Lazarus Pit and emerges as Robert Pattinson. Boom, done.

Yeah, that's basically a Elseworld. Which I'm fine with, if you advertise it as such.

Also, Pattinson as Batman? I'm interested, good or bat, we will have good memes...

Beyond the Internet Outrage.

Oh Damn.

Edited by KazuyaProta on May 31st 2019 at 3:35:40 AM

@Battle Raizer Man Gods and Monsters was such a good movie.

Also holy shit the guy who played the sparkling vampire is now Batman, we live in a major-ass timeline alright.

I, for one, welcome our new sparkly dark knight.

I mean... vampires, bats... it all makes sense really.

Matthew Vaughn's Man of Steel 2 isn't happening anymore.

Can't say I am complaining. I was skeptical about Vaughn being the right choice for this, and what is being said here suggest I was right.

As for Robert Pattison... We'll see how he plays^^ Twilight aside, I think he's actually a decent actor (in his defense ANYONE would have sucked in that role).

And I still kinda hope the DCEU will get back on track eventually rather than die. I agree it being dead is a stretch right now.

I mean, I would love it if we saw more Henry Cavill Superman in that movie, too. But it's going to be pretty weird having a movie and a show using the same character at the same time. Has that ever happened before?

Good question.

Renegade Cut completes his series on the DCEU with Aquaman.

He's… not a big fan.

So, I wanted to ask, if they were to try with Green Lantern again, how do you think they should go about it?

Also, do you think a Martian Manhunter movie is a good idea?

Geoff Johns is currently writing a Green Lantern Corps movie, which is a Buddy Cop Film In Space! Which is probably how it should be — I would love if it starred John Stewart and Kyle Rayner, but it's probably going to include Hal Jordan, since Johns' loves Hal.

Martian Manhunter, I think, is best as part of a team or a secondary character. He has a great backstory, but it's a bit too similar to Superman's origin.

Martian Manhunter works best as the Justice League’s Vision, or maybe more like Coulson or even Fury: a general universe character introduced as part of the crossing over, and - especially in the Vision comparison - most prominent in the crossovers themselves.

More so than anyone else in the Justice League, J’onn is a Justice League focused character, so it checks out.

I’be always thought the way he was used in Justice League: The New Frontier is the standard for how to introduce him in a film.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 31st 2019 at 5:57:39 AM