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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12126: Jun 29th 2023 at 6:20:36 AM

The time periods I think we need to see least right now are the Clone Wars, and the three year gap between Yavin and Hoth. They’ve just both been covered pretty thoroughly.

I’m less inclined toward pre-Episode I stories. I think I feel about it the same way I feel toward the pre-Robert’s Revellion era of A Song of Ice and Fire: it’s more interesting to me in small glimpses than it would be if it was the main focus.

Pre-Sequels is certainly fertile ground. I’m not sure you’d get what you’re looking for out of it, with Luke/Han/Leia acting as a trio (frankly, that rarely even happens in the actual movies), since the impression I’m getting from what I’ve seen so far is that they kind of did their own things. Luke went off and did Jedi stuff. Leia trained with him for a while and then left for her political career. Han and Leia were together for a while, but Leia was busy so Han and Chewie mostly did what they’d always done, and then they drifted apart once Ben fell to the dark side and Luke disappeared.

Granted, I’ve not read much of what’s set in this era yet, so my experience with it is limited to what we see in the movies, Mandoverse, and the Rise of Kylo Ren comic. I could be completely off base (I’ll find out soon! I’m making a concerted effort right now to catch up on novels).

For other eras…

  • The Old Republic is fully open, as I said earlier.
  • The High Republic is also a world of opportunities.
  • The 10 years between I and II are more interesting than pre-I to me, but are probably better suited to novels and Tales of the Jedi arcs than a full-blown series, as the conflicts are necessarily smaller scale isolated incidents at that point.
  • There’s four years between the Battle of Jakku and the start of The Mandalorian. There’s room there for Luke’s Jedi wanderings, although I’m not sure that’s suited to a whole series either.
  • The year between VIII and IX has a lot of potential. The Clone Wars covered three years in seven seasons. I’m sure they could get two or three out of a single year in-universe.
  • Post-IX. I know they’re doing another movie here, but there’s a 15 year gap. A New Jedi Order movie wouldn’t even necessarily have to intersect with the state of affairs immediately following IX. That’s my long shot wish.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12127: Jun 29th 2023 at 6:37:25 AM

I would be curious to see something about a bunch of low level imperials immediately after the Battle of Jaku and the Empire collapsing. Having imperial protagonists probably makes it a tight rope to write and you'd likely not want to tell that story immediately after Bad Batch due to have similar (inversed) the premis is. But an on going that shows the different directions a group of former imps go would be curious to me.

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#12128: Jun 29th 2023 at 8:38:26 AM

If they're not using the KOTOR remake to recanonize the Old Republic stuff I think that's the best time to set stories. Both the Jedi and Sith are active forces without breaking continuity and the galaxy isn't all united under either the Empire or Republic. It has the widest story potential IMO while still being recognizably Star Wars. It's also far enough back that you don't have to worry about it stepping on the toes of upcoming movies or shows

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12129: Sep 17th 2023 at 1:37:27 PM

I'm rewatching the final eight episodes of Rebels (Ashoka got me in the mood) and damn I'm flabaghasted by how good this show was.

Thrawn is excellent, treating Hera's family heirloom and Sabines art as keepsakes, Ezra and Sabine navigating the Jedi temple and it's World Between Worlds is so engaging, and then the conclusion with the the rebels holding the Lothal garrison hostage was so thrilling. The emperor even turns up.

I don't feel like Bad Batch has lived up to its legacy yet, but I feel like that show is building up to something (much like Rebels)

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12130: Sep 23rd 2023 at 4:55:10 AM

Okay there's been a lot of talk on the Ashoka thread about the want for a Skywalker centric animated show set in the New Republic, moving that conversation to here where it'll be more on topic.

I'm curious what plotlines we'd want to see in a Luke centric animated series set 10 years or so after Return of the Jedi?

So far I've got

  • Luke discovering what became of the force sensitive people who used The Path during the Empire

  • just investigating Jedi history

  • Luke interacting with Anakin's force ghost, and with Ashoka

  • the Emperor's spirit knocking about

  • the shadow council's Palpatine Clones, one being using as a figurehead puppet, one fleeing to become Rey's father, and one getting possessed by Palpatine's spirit

  • Introduction of Snoke

  • Introduction of The Sith Eternal cult

  • Perhaps Luke achieving some kind of fail safe to lessen the blow of the eventual Kylo Ren betrayal

  • Luke forming his Jedi school, training Leia, and I guess something with preteen Ben Organa?

  • And I guess something about that thing in Rise of Skywalker where the emperor can only be defeated or revived by two force user opposed in the force?

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
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#12131: Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:45:16 AM

I always thought it would be cool to reintroduce some Legends characters and change up their stories to fit in canon. Like, Luke meets Mara Jade, and while they don’t get married, you can still acknowledge their relationship. Or the Solo kids are some street rats that Han and Leia come across and briefly mentor, rather than their actual biological children. Maybe without Jacen, since he’s kind of already Kylo.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12132: Sep 23rd 2023 at 6:00:41 AM

I like both those ideas. Sounds like the kind of thing Filoni would go for too.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
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#12133: Sep 23rd 2023 at 7:12:59 AM

I've been thinking on this for a while, and I also thought it would be cool to get a Mortis/Yoda spirit quest style arc where Luke sees everything that happens in the sequel trilogy... but also the aftermath, where Rey uses his teachings to rebuild the Jedi, or other nascent Force-users he met throughout his journeys who never came to his school, like Grogu, are inspired by what brief teachings he gave them to become peacekeepers themselves.

Obviously he'd have to get mindwiped, but it would be nice to have some subconscious part of him understand that it wasn't all for nothing, that he still brought peace to the galaxy. It was just a bit delayed.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12134: Sep 23rd 2023 at 7:34:27 AM

I also thought that. I think Luke should have some agency in deciding to delegate defeating the Emperor to Rey and Ben, even if he doesn't remember making that decision.

Maybe in a way that means he's not knowingly sentencing some of his students to death by Kylo.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
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#12135: Sep 23rd 2023 at 7:44:06 AM

Like, the thing that I would really want to emphasize in a project like this is that Luke (and/or Anakin, depending on how you interpret things) did fulfill the prophecy. They killed the Emperor, they destroyed the Sith, they brought balance to the Force.

All this stuff with Palpatine's resurrection? That's just him running on fumes, refusing to accept his inevitable defeat. The First Order is made up of a bunch of incompetent morons, the Final Order is built upon the most unsustainable cruelties of the Empire, and while Palps' spirit has survived and tries to take over Rey's body, who knows how stable that process would have been? And even if he usurped the Dyad again... well, it's powerful, but, again, how stable would that have been for his body in the long-term? All this would undoubtedly crumble within a few decades.

Obviously, none of that should invalidate Rey's arc. It's still important to kill him now so that he doesn't take billions with him in his death spiral. But frame it in a way that still validates everything the original Rebellion did.

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Sep 23rd 2023 at 10:48:41 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12136: Sep 23rd 2023 at 8:02:09 AM

[up]exactly my sentiment. Luke enabling Anakin to fulfil the prophecy is something I want a Luke Skywalker animated series to protect.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#12137: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:00:00 AM

I have the opposite take. If I were making a Luke specific series (rather than including Luke in the ensemble story currently going on, as IIRC was suggested on the Ahsoka thread), then I would structure instead like the Luke-centric issues of the Star Wars comic and focus on Luke's own adventures throughout the galaxy.

Rather than making it about reinforcing how Luke was a part of Anakin's story, or making it about Luke somehow giving the big thumbs up to Rey's story, I would focus it on adventures that Luke himself is having as a character of his own that the audience doesn't already know about.

Luke desperately needs some breadth in the universe - at the moment, he's only known to have done exactly one thing over the course of forty years, which was the result of the first few years of Disney Star Wars trying to keep the universe as small as possible. But if they're not doing that any more, then spread Luke out. Have him travel the galaxy while trying to build his school, helping people, rebuilding lives for force sensitives, having new and unexpected adventures. Etc.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#12138: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:17:55 AM

Luke becoming the post Purge jedi scholar, the guy who finds the ancient texts and rekindles a continuity for the Jedi that otherwise would have been lost is absolutely an achievement I want for him.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#12139: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:23:55 AM

One of the things I've thought for a while they could do is to establish that Luke only built the one school for himself and the Jedi, which was destroyed, that wasn't the only thing he built. That maybe he went around the galaxy helping force users persecuted by the Empire, rebuilding and being a major part of the recovery of force traditions all over, becoming a light not just for the Jedi but for force users who aren't Jedi as well.

It would make a fantastic tragedy out of his eventual fate: have that Luke was able to do so much for the force and for others throughout his life, but when finally tried to get the happy ending he deserved for himself the dark side took it away from him.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#12140: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:40:56 AM

I like that. It would fit with his lesson to Ray that Light is so much more than just Jedi Order. Plus books already estabilished that during his quest to rebuild Jedi he went to study the Force traditions all over the galaxy.

Edited by EmperorGeode on Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:43:52 AM

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#12142: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:52:08 AM

I wonder what the "fanboys" would say over that idea tho. evil grin

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#12143: Sep 23rd 2023 at 9:52:17 AM

Agreed. Do that.

If we're trying to salvage the sequels, making it that Luke actually did accomplish a lot, but the Dark Side stabbed his personal life in the balls still lets him have some kind of victory.

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Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#12144: Sep 23rd 2023 at 10:31:37 AM

Which is why I prefer that Luke's Jedi Order be scattered and needs to be reunited back as one.

If not Luke's adventures we get, we should have Rey and Finn travel across the galaxy to sew back the scattered legacies of Luke.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#12145: Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:01:02 AM

We ain't never seeing Finn again, considering his actor has given Disney the Middle finger.

Rey is the only one who'll come back.

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#12146: Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:02:16 AM

You sure? Because I've heard other statements from John Boyega who said that if the script is really good, then he may consider coming back.

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EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#12147: Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:04:16 AM

Actually John Boyega has warmed up on idea of coming back if he thinks project is worth it.

Edit: [nja]

Edited by EmperorGeode on Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:04:33 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#12148: Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:40:40 AM

Oh.

Cool.

Then I guess it could happen.

What about Oscar Isaac?

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#12149: Sep 23rd 2023 at 11:55:41 AM

So far he said no he has no intention, but like with Harrison Ford, one thing could make him change his mind.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#12150: Oct 2nd 2023 at 8:35:51 PM

So, after re-watching clips of Star Wars: Clone Wars (no the. This is the old 2003 series), I have to ask why Genndy Tartakovsky hasn't been asked to do a short for Star Wars: Visions.

Or for that manner, why he was never brought back for another animated series. I know some dudes think everything has to be CGI now, but.....he churned out some good hand drawn shit. I think he style could be really good for an animated star wars series of some sort.

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