General Star Wars Animated Series

I respectfully disagree. The show tells its stories through visuals and I think it does a great job in that regard, which goes to show that less is more. It flows well when watching the episodes in one sitting.

Anakin’s duel with Ventress and his vision on Nelvaan are some of the best depictions of his fall to the dark side. His Trial of the Spirit plot was very well done and his scenes with Padme were beautiful. Also, CW has THE best choreographed lightsaber battles in any Star Wars work (seriously, watch the Battle of Hypori; the attention to detail is phenomenal). Grievous is much more intimidating, not just because of his skills, but his chilling voice and music (speaking of music, it’s criminal that they never released a soundtrack for the show). Don’t care what anyone says, Mace Windu was awesome (My only regret is that Samuel L. Jackson didn’t voice him). Also, his interaction with the farm boy was really sweet. Other random things of note: they did Shaak Ti justice and Yoda doing a Jedi mind trick was hilarious.

Hell, I once showed it to a friend who had never seen it before. At the time, he was posting reviews of each Star Wars movie on Facebook to lead up to the release of The Force Awakens. In his review for the microseries, he described it as “visually-vibrant and surprisingly engaging for an unnecessary cartoon series. So if you’re discouraged from watching it for some reason, don’t be.”

Edited by TVRulezAgain on Aug 5th 2018 at 6:16:33 AM

I like the Tartakovksy series, but it didn’t really fit the tone and theming of the Star Wars universe even at the time and am not particularly missed about it being non-canon now: as mentioned, it’s ultimately way more concerned with the spectacle and the stylistic action than it should’ve been. Most of the significant plot and character bits were ultimately, eventually fleshed our better in TCW.

I’d only be interested in seeing it recanonized in a broad strokes sense. Cut out most things, but keep stuff like the first encounter with Ventress or Mace Windu crushing Grievous’ chest.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 5th 2018 at 6:18:58 AM

That..... that sounds quite Damned by Faint Praise as far as reviews go

I personally think the cartoon should be an in universe dramatization of the events of star wars.

Funny you say that. Paxi Sylo, the kid from the Mace Windu portions of CW, was rumored to draw out those episode in universe if Legends is concerned. It gained cult following in the Rebel Alliance.

I mean, Legends is already an in universe collection of tales in the new canon isn't it?

No? That...doesn't make any sense.

Like, that would require people to have made up the lives of Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, and Han Solo up to 30 years further into the future than the actual timeline, including giving them several fictional children.

And? We make movies set in "2206" or whatever all the time.

The reality is the the Tavkosky series is not the only thing to be non canonized. KOTOR, the Thrawn trilogy, are just as beloved and were retconned.

Not usually about real people though.

The 2003 Clone Wars series is unique in barely even being canon in Legends though. The 2008 series is on a higher level of canon, so anywhere the two series disagree, 2003 gets retconned, and the longer the 2008 series went, the more that happened, to the point where there’s barely time for the 2003 series to even take place anymore.

Also, “just as beloved” is drawing a false equivalency here. KOTOR and the Thrawn Trilogy are near-universally hailed as the franchise’s high point in their respective mediums. Star Wars: Clone Wars is at best highly divisive, and is definitely not as beloved as the 2008 series.

Edited by BadWolf21 on Aug 7th 2018 at 3:58:29 AM

I don’t know I feel like the events of the 2003 series can snuggly fit in the events of the 2008 series even with some modification.

Like a lot of the 2003 stuff such as Anakin’s battle with Ventress takes place before the 2008 series began because Anakin was a Padawan then while he’s a Knight in the 2008 one.

Also I don’t get how it’s “highly divisive”, I thought it was generally well-liked at least for its animation & having the most favorable portrayal of Grievous.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 2:10:37 AM

When it came out many hailed it as better than Episode 3. Genndy is still one of the best animation directors around.

Anakin is knighted too late in the 2003 series for the timeline to work. They tried for a long time to make it fit, but the end result is everyone agreeing to pretend that the 2008 series can fit between episodes 21 and 22 of the 2003 show. The timeline just doesn’t work.

And is the animation really that beloved? I only ever hear people say they liked the action sequences. In my opinion, the animation is rather ugly, and I still resent that emulating the 2003 show is how we ended up with a Dooku who looks nothing like Christopher Lee in the 2008 show.

And that’s why I say it can fit with modicification.

The action sequences is the animation, that’s how it even works in the first place & of course every one praises it, the miniseries is basically one long giant action sequence.

I believe what your referring to as ugly is the art-style of the show itself. The show boasts some of the most fluid & dynamic fight scenes ever put to paper & computer.

Highlights include Windu soloing an army, Anakin vs Ventress, & literally every single damn thing Grievous did.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 2:21:11 AM

Yes. It’s atrociously bad.

And this isn’t a new opinion for me either. I watched the whole micro-series (first two seasons, before they got longer) during a marathon on Teletoon shortly before Episode III came out and I walked away disappointed with it then too.

Wait which one the art or the animation?

Cause you can think negatively of the art but no way in fucking Hell is the animation “bad”.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 2:24:40 AM

Honestly, I don’t find the animation impressive in the slightest. Maybe not bad, but certainly nothing to write home about. Combined with terrible art design, and a timeline that doesn’t work with the one established in the later, much more compelling series, and you get a show that I’m personally happy to forget.

We’re gonna have to agree to disagree there cause that shit is unlike anything else seen in shows or movies even today.

To say it’s bad is like saying the animation in Zootopia or King-Fu Panda is bad.

Like no offense but kinda get your eyes checked there.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 2:32:51 AM

Why doesn't the timeline work, again? If the events of the first season took place very early in the war, then I think it could still work, at least in Broad Strokes.

Because they all need to take place within about a month. And then a three year time skip happens between episodes in the third season.

Re: animation. I just watched Anakin vs. Ventress on You Tube and I stand by what I said. It is nothing special. Honestly, it kind of reminds me of the Powerpuff Girls. And I like the Powerpuff Girls, but I don’t think of the show as being the pinnacle of animation as an art form, you know?

Edited by BadWolf21 on Aug 7th 2018 at 4:51:01 AM

I can’t agree with that.

I am planning to give The Clone Wars the entire run through before the final season hits, so maybe I’ll change my mind by the time I’m finished. Because I saw CW a few months back and it’s still great fun to me. Maybe I’m an outlier.

As for canon, there’s a fan theory the whole thing is a holodrama exaggeration of what actually happened. Funny theory.

Not supposed to be an art form, its supposed to be a kick-ass romp. This is Star Wars after all.

Besides the ending to that fight was phenomenal from Anakin going berserk to the music to the overlaying faces of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda looking on in horror.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 3:22:49 AM

This has been posted 10 times already. It's getting posted again because I just found it and it's making me wish I'd watched this when it was on.

I don't care much for that fight or overly competent Grevious.

Not everyday you see Jedi slaughtered & butchered like pigs.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 7th 2018 at 8:21:23 AM