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RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Mar 21st 2020 at 7:42:31 AM

I'd like to see a bit more coordination between the multiple artists for the sake of diversity.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
Mar 21st 2020 at 10:04:38 AM

Maybe I'm over-analyzing things, but I thought part of the reason they invited so many guest artists was to try and find a more permanent artist? The only hangup is that three of the guest artists were previously involved with the series. (Praxis and Theory were drawn by CHOCO, Gorg was Soraya Saga, and of course Kunihiko Tanaka).

HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 22nd 2020 at 3:59:48 PM

Think of getting back on this. Got all the DLC a long time ago (I finished everything in Torna except for beating the Superbosses, and one quest that I think kinda required beating them).

Before I do New Game+ for the base game, I want to see about rolling some of those Blades I didn't get the first time around. Anyone got advice on how to better my chances for some of them (I didn't get KOS-MOS at all for one thing)?

I think I heard that Rare Blades you already got in a previous play through stick around in your party later on on New Game+, or at least are easier to get the second time around.

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RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Mar 22nd 2020 at 4:04:38 PM

Just max out your luck with common blades with a luck modifier and hopefully chips that boost luck (there are no such examples for Ether Cannons or Tank blades), and use idea boosters for the according element. Other than that, just roll, roll, roll. Of course, when you activate New Game+, there will be the six Tornan blades unlocked in the potential pool, and one static encounter unlocked after a certain event in Chapter 9. You'll want to stock up on Compassion boosters for those. You can forget about Justice boosters.

Blades stick to your drivers upon starting New Game+, but you need to re-obtain those drivers in the story proper. Poppi's forms are locked away until you get to QT mode in Chapter 4.

Edited by RainingMetal on Mar 22nd 2020 at 4:05:40 AM

Waifu fans need a life(u).
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 22nd 2020 at 4:05:48 PM

Got it. So I don't have to worry about doing all their quests again I suppose?

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Mar 22nd 2020 at 4:34:37 PM

If you filled out the slot on a Blade's affinity chart from doing their quest, you don't need to do the quest again (although you can if you want to).

However, if that slot on the chart isn't filled in because a slot before it isn't filled in, you'll need to do the quest again.

Hunter1 The Guy in the Capsule from The New Eden Galaxy
The Guy in the Capsule
Mar 23rd 2020 at 12:48:00 PM

More specifically, if the quest was completed, it's done and you only "need" it for the quest specific rewards (the affinity chart is unchanged and the node stays filled in), or just cleaning up the map and quest list. If you didn't finish the quest, the node will remain unfilled and you'll need to restart the quest from the beginning once you meet the prerequisites.

As for other nodes... they can be a bit weird as to what progress carries over and what doesn't, although completed nodes will always stay filled in.

Will the transhumanist future have catgirls? Does Japan still exist? Well, there is your answer. — Unknown
Mar 23rd 2020 at 3:24:05 PM

No, if you completed the quest, but the quest's node on the affinity chart didn't get filled in (either because you didn't look at the chart afterwards or one of the pre-requisite nodes isn't filled in), you need to redo the quest.

You can't fill in a level 4 or 5 'complete the quest' node if the level 2 'use this pouch item' node of the same skill isn't filled in.

Hunter1 The Guy in the Capsule from The New Eden Galaxy
The Guy in the Capsule
Mar 23rd 2020 at 6:10:58 PM

[up]I... don't recall it being possible to start a Blade quest if you can't fill in the node in the first place? Or was I just that obsessive about filling in the charts that it never came up when I played?

Will the transhumanist future have catgirls? Does Japan still exist? Well, there is your answer. — Unknown
Mar 23rd 2020 at 8:04:08 PM

It can happen to some blades.

Zenobia is a good example. The only requirement for starting and finishing her blade quest is to unlock level 5 of her affinity chart, which simply requires completing a sequence of merc missions.

Completing her blade quest fills in the level 5 node for Superstrength, but levels 2-4 require killing specific unique monsters.

If you complete the quest without killing those monsters, and then start a new game, you'll need to redo the quest before you can fill in the node.

It happened to me since I didn't obtain Zenobia until soon before starting NG+, and I planned to go around doing all the monster killing as I progressed through the story.

Edited by justinkal on Mar 23rd 2020 at 10:12:16 AM

asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Mar 23rd 2020 at 11:54:02 PM

I think you have do aaaaaaaaaall of Ursula's missions again. But this isn't much of an issue if you just have it in the background as you play through the game.

Existence
Anomalocaris20 Please from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Please
Mar 24th 2020 at 12:03:29 AM

"Isn't much of an issue", hahahahaha.

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Mar 24th 2020 at 4:26:29 AM

Ursula you have to start over if you didn't completely finish the quest.

RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Mar 24th 2020 at 8:19:00 AM

Basically, don't do New Game+ if you haven't finished Ursula's quest if you started it. It's imperative that you get her early so that you can spend as much time in the background doing her merc missions. Should you start a new game, you'll restart all of your progress on it if it isn't completed.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
Mar 24th 2020 at 9:41:31 AM

Or you could be me, and have her be one of the last four blades you needed to get.

RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Mar 24th 2020 at 11:22:32 AM

I'd say that if you don't get Ursula by Chapter 4, you'll want to re-roll your game and hope you get a column where she shows up more. My latest game was in Column 2, with the lowest odds and no pity, but by some miracle, I got her in Chapter 2.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Mar 24th 2020 at 11:38:31 AM

While Ursula's quest is irritating, I really don't think it warrants restarting your entire game. Just ignore her till you're hankering for NG+.

Existence
Mar 24th 2020 at 12:06:37 PM

Or you could do the least stressful thing and ignore Ursula altogether

Anomalocaris20 Please from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Please
Mar 24th 2020 at 12:51:16 PM

Re-rolling the entire game just because you didn't get Ursula early is very, very excessive. Her quest is a pain-in-the-ass but it's not like you're on a time limit to complete it.

The fact that the world exists means nobody has had a TRUE 'everything bagel' yet. Twitch
Mar 24th 2020 at 12:58:46 PM

Especially since you might wind up like me and go through 200 Legendary Core Crystals at super high Luck and maxed out idea levels and still fail to get KOS-MOS.

Edited by justinkal on Mar 24th 2020 at 3:30:18 AM

TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Mar 24th 2020 at 1:11:34 PM

KOS-MOS' odds are equally bullshit regardless of what tableset you rolled into. Only thing you can do about her is slave away for Legendary Crystals and pray until well past your eyes bleed.

(I too have only her left after all this time)

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Anomalocaris20 Please from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Please
Mar 24th 2020 at 1:14:51 PM

I was actually lucky enough to get her during the main game, well before I started farming cores post-game.

Instead, Newt was my white whale for post-game farming.

The fact that the world exists means nobody has had a TRUE 'everything bagel' yet. Twitch
RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Mar 24th 2020 at 3:22:44 PM

I'd say it's more because her lessons are really convenient for filling out blade charts. Seriously, if any random blade needed to become static, it's Ursula, because getting her late in the game is a death-knell.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Mar 24th 2020 at 3:23:41 PM

KOS-MOS was one of the first rare blades I got, and I am forever thankful for that.

For me, the last holdout was Vale, tho a check back to posts I made about a year ago will document the agony I went through trying to roll Petroka.

Edited by asterism on Mar 24th 2020 at 10:25:16 AM

Existence
SapphireBlue squish from California Relationship Status: In another castle
squish
Mar 24th 2020 at 3:26:18 PM

I got her late in the game and I've done most of my blade quests. On a clear file, yeah, but I did them.


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