Things you're tired of telling non-comic fans.

Stan Lee did not create every superhero, and he has not directed a single movie.

edited 20th Feb '14 12:20:18 PM by TheEvilDrBolty

'No, Superman is not boring. It's just that certain writers make Superman come across that way. Go read some Grant Morrison or SA Supes, and then come talk to me about Superman.'

"Yes, they still make comic books."

Weird in a Can (updated M-F)

"They're called comics, not graphic novels. Graphic novel has a quite specific meaning - as a rule of thumb, if you hear someone say it, they're probably being pretentious."

Ukrainian Red Cross

"Something doesn't stop being a comic just because they are a graphic novel".

Okay, this ones is for the comic fans.

Oh, definitely. All graphic novels are comics, but most comics aren't graphic novels.

Ukrainian Red Cross

I know. It was just a jab at the pretentious types you mentioned, that insist graphic novels are not comics and both are totally completely separated things. They annoy me greatly.

edited 22nd Feb '14 8:22:53 AM by Heatth

I also get "Superman and Batman exists in the same universe as Captain America and Thor. Nope, Superman and Batman are from DC Comics and Captain America and Thor are from Marvel Comics.

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!

"No, Mom. Spider Jerusalem is not the same as Spider Man."

edited 28th Feb '14 11:12:44 AM by Jinxmenow

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."

"No, mom, just because his name is the Winter Soldier does not mean he's a member of the United States army. That makes it okay for him to be a bad guy. Also HE'S NOT REAL."

My various fanfics.

There's a bit of a pattern I've noticed with comic-based movie adaptations for a while now. For some reason, people who aren't serious readers (or are non-comic fans) tend to whine more about the changes that were made than the more serious readers.

Admit it, folks: We're all aware that Tropes Are Flexible, and that stories are adaptable/reinterpretable (is that a word?) as needed. But to the non-fan, it's like they think that Character Development should be completely forbidden.

Simply put, it's as though they just wanna read/watch the same 2-3 stories over and over and over again. (For an example of this in action, Jim Carrey addresses this idea somewhat near the end of this SNL monologue).

But we know better than that, don't we? The problem is that trying to explain this to the non-reader makes us sound like THAT fan.

Embroiled in slave rebellion, I escaped crucifixion simply by declaring 'I am Vito', everyone else apparently being called 'Spartacus'.

Y'know, it's funny, because that same principle has led to casual fans that I know only accepting Spider-Man with Mary Jane. Which applies to the concept you are talking to, but clashes with a different set of people who don't like that change.

"No, The Punisher isn't supposed to be seen as a sympathetic badass Rambo-styled hero."

This goes for some comic book fans as well, who miss the point of the character completely and complain about him for not showing any mercy to his targets. While, at least in the mainstream Marvel Universe books, he isn't an outright villain, Punisher comics are more like slasher movies, only one where the victims are all horrible people. Punisher books are about people's reactions to the Punisher, not Frank going through any sort of character arc where he develops a heart of gold. That's not to say that he can't at times be portrayed as more human, but if you go too far in that direction, it's no longer the Punisher.

For we shall slay evil with logic...

So basically they're exactly like slasher movies.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

I was expecting someone to say that.

For we shall slay evil with logic...