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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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Speaking of Miss Allen, what the hell is she doing now, since her son is Carnage or something, and Norman is a good guy?
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She was helping Anti-Venom Flash last time I saw her and he doesn't seem to trust her very much either.
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Is Allen still going all corrupt corporate executive for Normie, or what?
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Well she was recently given her own symbiote and decided "Yeah I don't care for this stuff." and put it away.
She's just kinda inured to strangeness now.
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Too Many Symbiotes
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Yeah but is she supervillain corporate evil, or regular corporate evil?
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Pretty sure she still hates Spider-Man.
She'd probably hate Peter a lot more if she was able to remember they were the same person as I'm pretty sure her reaction to finding out about his secret pre OMD was YOU LYING MOTHER!@#$%-ER!!!!'
Considering she'd lost both a brother and a husband because of Peter, that makes sense.
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She's not really evil so much as the head of an evil corporation.
So regular corporate evil.
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Liz is among the many people that has distressingly justified reasons for hating both Peter and Spidey's guts.
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Regular corporate evil for the most part.
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I'm surprised she hasn't found a way to really screw up Peter financially.
But I'm sure that'll happen once she finds out he's Spider-Man again.
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She kicked him out of his apartment at one point after Harry’s death
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....He probably deserved that.
And it saddens me to say it, but I'm standing by it.
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I feel like we never got any reaction from Liz on her husband being a clone. What's her take on that?
Weirdly, the comics seem to have just skipped over that little revelation and we haven't gotten to hear about Liz suffering a world-shattering bomb like that. I would imagine that she is not happy about it, to say the least, and it's probably just one more reason all the superhero shit is on her "fuck this" list. Peter and MJ themselves have gotten over Clone Harry's reveal and death uncomfortably fast.
It's eerily familiar - to me - of stuff like the end of the Clone Saga or the infamous "put MJ on a plane and crash it" arc or OMD itself. The desperation to burn everything the editors don't like away and get Dat Status Quo back results in the characters suffering these horrific traumas that should hang over them for years but instead are just kinda swept away.
Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 27th 2024 at 3:19:21 AM
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We didn’t even get her reaction to his skeleton still having hair
I WILL NEVER LET THAT GO
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I like that the recent Ultimate issue finally gave a little character to Peter and MJ's son Richard.
So the kid is a bookroom, really likes reading and pretty smart books at that. Gives him a relaxes air especially when interacting with his uncle.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Yeah, I liked that too.
Maybe the idea Hickman is going for is that Richard gets the Teen Genius and more sensitive aspects of Peter as a contrast to Mayday getting the crafty, mischievous parts. Which would be a pretty good idea, since back in MC2, Benjy was kind of a non-entity at times on account of being a near-toddler and thus didn't have much of a defined personality compared to Mayday.
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Okay I need to see that.
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Spider-Verse Unlimited (2022) made Benjy a four or five-year-old with a case of being simultaneously Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny! and surprisingly observant, both running off to play an arcade and using his powers to save people about to be injured by malfunctioning machines.
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Oh my god, spoilers from the new Spider Man issue.
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Though how antagonistic Liz Allen is seems to vary. Some writers still have her be genuinely nice to Peter.