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Cibryll Aile from Frost Heraldry (she/her) Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
#23276: May 11th 2022 at 3:58:20 PM

Yeah, "Number 2: Ninja Shadow Mosquito" is the fake one while "Number 2: Numeron Gate Dve" is the real one.

As for "Number 1: Infection Buzz King", I don't think it's the only remaining fake Number Card? I mean. We haven't gotten "Number 10: Dark Illumiknight" yet.

Come to think of it, aren't there supposed to be like a million fake Numbers with only five been shown in ZEXAL? Would be interesting to see what they might've been…

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#23277: May 12th 2022 at 10:19:46 AM

Crystal Beast backrow.

SD44-JP017 Hougyoku no Kago (Gem Protection) / Crystal Protection 
Normal Spell
You can only use the 2nd effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) Target 1 “Crystal Beast” Monster Card you control; destroy it, then Special Summon 1 “Crystal Beast Token” with the same original Type, Attribute, Level, and ATK/DEF.
(2) If a “Crystal Beast” card(s) is placed in your Spell & Trap Zone and this card is in your GY (even during the Damage Step): You can banish this card; Special Summon 1 “Crystal Beast” Monster Card from your Spell & Trap Zone.

SD44-JP032 Hougyoku no Shukufuku (Gem Blessing) / Crystal Grace
Normal Trap
You can only use the 2nd effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) Special Summon up to 2 “Crystal Beast” Monster Cards from your Spell & Trap Zones, and if you do, gain LP equal to their total original ATK.
(2) If a “Crystal Beast” card(s) is placed in your Spell & Trap Zone while this card is in your GY (even during the Damage Step): You can banish this card; excavate the top card of your Deck, and if it is a “Crystal Beast” monster, either add it to your hand or Special Summon it. Otherwise, send it to the GY.

SD44-JP033 Hougyoku no Kiseki (Gem Miracle) / Crystal Miracle
Counter Trap
You can only use the 2nd effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) When a Spell/Trap Card, or monster effect, is activated: Destroy 1 “Crystal Beast” card you control, and if you do, negate the activation, and if you do that, destroy that card.
(2) If a “Crystal Beast” card(s) is placed in your Spell & Trap Zone while this card is in your GY (even during the Damage Step): You can banish this card; place 1 “Crystal Beast” monster from your hand, Deck, or GY face-up in your Spell & Trap Zone as a Continuous Spell.

The Token generator means you can run one less Crystal Beast name for Rainbow Dragon stuff, but that's not much of a consolation.

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Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Untrustworthy
#23278: May 12th 2022 at 12:24:27 PM

So like. It doesn't really solve the problem, because you're just running a mediocre token generator instead of the seventh name. And considering the best way to get Rainbow Dragon stuff going is via Ultimate Crystal Magic, I'm not sure this even makes it easier in practice.

The counter trap looks good, though.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#23279: May 12th 2022 at 10:04:46 PM

New Blackwings just dropped but YGOrg's website is broken. So if anyone has an alternative link that'd be appreciated.

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Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#23280: May 12th 2022 at 10:32:45 PM

There's the Pojo link, but there's no images.

It coincidentally uses the Ygorganization post as its source too.

...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Cibryll Aile from Frost Heraldry (she/her) Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
#23282: May 13th 2022 at 1:21:50 AM

So we also have a "Black-Winged Assault Dragon" now.
Seeing as it needs a Tuner Synchro and 1+ non-Tuners, I'm guessing this would've been an Accel Synchro in the anime?

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#23283: May 16th 2022 at 1:23:30 AM

EDIT: Wrong thread, meant to post in our Master Duel one.

Edited by Karxrida on May 16th 2022 at 1:25:49 AM

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Tzitzimine Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
#23284: May 17th 2022 at 9:08:03 AM

Ban list is out

https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_05-2022/index.html

Forbidden

Verte Anaconda
Prank Kids Meow Meow
Phantom Beast Auroradon

Limited

Jet Synchron
Red Rose Dragon
Yata Garasu
Halqifribax
Monkeyboard
Shooting Riser Dragon
Change of Heart
Time Seal

Semi Limited

Dinomight Knight
Cyber Angel Benten
Tenki
Pot of Desires
Trickstar Light Stage
Wall of Light

Unlimited

Night Assailant
Trishula
Salamangreat Miragestallio
A hero lives
Salamangreat Circle
Scapegoat

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#23285: May 17th 2022 at 9:16:58 AM

Well that's an interesting list.

The biggest change I'm a fan of is the first one. Verte's gone!

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Untrustworthy
#23286: May 17th 2022 at 9:47:26 AM

It's kind of... surprisingly little I care about for such a big list. Like Verte being gone is obviously great, we got... strange Halq and Hala-adjacent hits that I can't really intuit what the consequence will be. And we get Prank-kids dying for Adventure's sins. And a lot of stuff that doesn't really matter.

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CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting
#23287: May 17th 2022 at 10:12:20 AM

Btw, when karx (oops actually tzitzi) said the banlist is out, they also meant effective immediately, so eveeyone has to scramble around to fix their decks

Edited by CountofBleck on May 17th 2022 at 2:01:39 PM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#23288: May 17th 2022 at 10:26:20 AM

I didn't post the list lol.

Also, there's a YCS this month (in like a week?) so that's a problem.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#23289: May 17th 2022 at 10:44:42 AM

It's probably not gonna matter, but Salads be winning this list.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23291: May 17th 2022 at 11:04:56 AM

It's starting to feel like some form of DM era now. Monster Reborn, Harpie's Feather Duster, Raigeki, Dark Hole, and now Change of Heart and Yata Garasu are legal again somehow.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#23292: May 17th 2022 at 11:06:23 AM

Is Pot of Greed now the only card that has NEVER come off?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23293: May 17th 2022 at 11:08:41 AM

And likely never will. No matter how far the game advances, there's no way Konami can justify letting THE free draw 2 off the list.

Edited by VeryMelon on May 17th 2022 at 2:08:52 PM

Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Siiiiiiiiiiiip
#23294: May 17th 2022 at 11:13:01 AM

Pot of Greed did rotate on/off the list before, but yeah, I don't see why it would ever come off yet again.

also, Graceful Charity never came off fully(did rotate though). Others include that have come back would be Breaker, Injection Fairy Lily, Chaos Emperor Dragon, Ring of Destruction, Crush Card Virus(and so on, though some of these were via an erratum).

...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#23295: May 17th 2022 at 11:16:02 AM

With how many nerfed versions of Pot of Greed already exist and them being incredibly powerful on their own, it's clear Konami has no intention of removing it from the banlist like ever.

Pot of Greed is legal in the Rush Duel format, but it's way less impactful there between the "draw until hand is 5" mechanic and the fact that it's a Legend card or something. (You can only have one Legend card.)

Edited by Karxrida on May 17th 2022 at 11:16:11 AM

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#23296: May 17th 2022 at 2:37:29 PM

...I have no idea what the hell Change of Heart is supposed to do nowadays. Why bring it back?

Edited by fredhot16 on May 17th 2022 at 2:38:03 AM

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Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#23297: May 17th 2022 at 2:54:38 PM

It's a slightly better Mind Control. Nobody even plays that.

And it's because we're getting a lot of nostalgia based cards from the DM era. It's kind of an easy time to bring this stuff back, cause people like playing old character decks and such. Regardless of any kind of impact it could have.

...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
Cibryll Aile from Frost Heraldry (she/her) Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
#23298: May 17th 2022 at 2:55:23 PM

"Change of Heart" is supposed to change your opponent's heart so that they let you win, of course! tongue

Gah, I got Armed Ninja'd! D:

Edited by Cibryll on May 17th 2022 at 11:55:40 AM

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CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting
#23299: May 17th 2022 at 3:21:54 PM

[up][up]Its not slightly better, its worlds better. It has no restriction on what it can target, unlike brain control, and are free to do whatever you want afterwards. Probably wont be in a lot of main decks but as a side card? Its gonna be nasty.

Let us not forget the horror that was 2015 snatch steal format...

Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#23300: May 17th 2022 at 3:29:20 PM

It's worlds better on paper. In practice, it's not going to do much either way. Mind Control's reason for being on the list is due to it being an easy fodder card, not simply stealing a monster. This doesn't change much besides allowing for attacking and tributing... which would be great if most of the best monsters weren't target-proof. That's why it won't be doing much to note. And why it's so easy to bring back.

Snatch Steal was also in a format with tons of other cards and playstyles. There was no Heavy Storm to kill backrow later, meaning you were pretty limited in using your one for one backrow killing cards to remove it or another card. It was also easier to search, unlike Change of Heart or Mind Control(and Brain Control, but, yeah, it's trash now. It was good beforehand at that point).

Different cardpools and interactions. Snatch Steal would be better than Change of Heart due to being faster and more reliable right now. On paper, it's often on par or worse, though.

The game really has changed a lot when lots of old borked cards are easy to bring back. XD

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