Subjective?: The CSI Effect

How does something with no examples be subjective?

Also I think some in universe examples of this trope would fit quite well on the page. Like Big Bang Theory's ep where Sheldon expects way too much of the police and wants DNA fingerprints and everything after their apartment was broken into.

edited 14th Jan '11 5:41:53 AM by Raso

Something with no examples can still be subjective. Subjective in this case dictates how it's used on works pages.

If its subjective (which IMO the "trope" certainly doesn't seem subjective) and no examples allowed when its actually used on TV then what is the point of the page existing at all?

edited 14th Jan '11 9:39:39 AM by Raso

Defines a Fan Speak term

Yet this "trope" gets used on actual shows now like Big Bang Theory Mike And Molly, actual "real" forensic shows and sometimes Law shows when they make it a plot point IE last nights The Defenders.

Which is not subjective.

edited 14th Jan '11 9:57:18 AM by Raso

Yeah but it's RL existence is. To quote The Other Wiki

By 2006, the CSI effect had become widely accepted as reality despite the fact that there had not yet been any empirical research to validate or disprove it.[24] A 2008 survey by researcher Monica Robbers showed that roughly 80 percent of all American legal professionals believed they had had decisions affected by forensic television programs.[25]

Also, if subjective tropes are used in a plot, then they do belong on the main page, so no biggie there.

The issue is that you can't prove that something like CSI is really having an effect. Even if it's a widely believed fact. Therefore, it's subjective.

edited 14th Jan '11 10:11:09 AM by helterskelter

If every example that's existence we can't prove would be subjective, more than 90% of the examples shouldn't appear on work pages.

A page shouldn't be subjective because hypothetically people could argue with it, but because we know from experiece that people tend to argue with it.

Yeah, whether or not CSI actually caused the effect is not of importance to us. It would be important to an encyclopedic wiki, one of which we ain't.

The CSI Effect is our label for the phenom, which does show up as a storytelling trope and is either in the story or isn't. Not subjective. I'll fix the banner.

Yeah, CSI itself did a Show Within a Show episode lampshading aspects of this trope.

I tweaked the text and told the subjective banner to go away. This one looks done. I'll lock it off.