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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#18426: Jan 31st 2023 at 8:38:10 PM

My favorite was still us theorizing why Tourian's entrance requires the bosses to be dead for Samus to enter in Super Metroid.

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#18427: Jan 31st 2023 at 8:39:20 PM

Oh yeah, how did that go again?

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#18428: Feb 1st 2023 at 4:45:36 AM

My personal theory is Mother Brain is an asshole, but Ridley is also an asshole, and they both found it funny.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18429: Feb 1st 2023 at 9:48:19 AM

...You know, for Nintendo's "darkest" franchise, we sure do get into all sorts of silly shenanigans in this thread.

I remember someone posted a link to an animation of Samus and the metroid hatching as a buddy cop duo in the 1970s.

Back when the Metroid Database sill had a forum, one guy wondered what a Metroid game on the CD-i would have been like. Ideas got bandied about, and I eventually wrote an outline for the theoretical cut-scenes.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 1st 2023 at 10:48:25 AM

RacattackForce Since: Aug, 2009
#18430: Feb 1st 2023 at 11:01:02 AM

[up] Lady and the Metroid, coming to Peacock in the year 20X5 in the history of the cosmos.

Also, someone needs to animate those CD-i cutscenes.

Edited by RacattackForce on Feb 1st 2023 at 2:04:32 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#18431: Feb 1st 2023 at 1:52:56 PM

I have seen fanart of CD-i Metroid.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18432: Feb 1st 2023 at 4:36:01 PM

Sadly, I do not have access to a team of animators to turn that into a finished product. I mean, I'd settle for having someone draw 15 stills to convey the story, as, in CD-i fashion, the "game" would reuse as much animation as possible, so one shot of Samus would get recycled every time she talks. Of note: This "game" is from a parallel universe where Phillips got the rights to make a Metroid game, in 1993, before Super Metroid came out, so everyone, except Samus, would be using their Metroid 1 designs, which is why Kraid is human-sized. I also had to find characters who predate Super Metroid to act as bosses, eventually coming across Commander Nemo and 'Big Time' Brannigan. Should probably come up with a real subtitle, so it's not just Metroid CD-i

Samus Returns isn't perfect, but I adore the redesigns they gave the metroids, especially the Zeta. The Zeta design from Metroid 2 is dinky and weak-looking, but the redesign is a thousand times better.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 1st 2023 at 6:41:00 AM

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#18433: Feb 1st 2023 at 4:40:38 PM

The "Evolved" Metroids from II had designs that largely just made me laugh.

The Returns Metroids can look legitimately terrifying. I'd get why the Federation would rather blow up a space station then, say, let a Zeta Metroid loose in a population center.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18434: Feb 2nd 2023 at 12:46:23 PM

Speaking of differences between Metroid II and Samus Returns: The manual to Metroid II states that the Federation sent a research team to SR388 to see if there were any metroids left. Apparently there were, because they never heard from that research team again. So they sent a team to rescue them. They lost contact with them too. By this point it was clear there were still metroids on the planet, because they then assembled a special corps specifically to wipe out every single metroid. Thy all got killed. Then they sent Samus. Now, if you read the Super Metroid manual, or the Samus Returns manual, they trim this down and say there was only one team sent to SR388, so only a third as many people got killed. Actually, when I was in high school, I tried writing a fanfic about the third group sent to SR388, using the Metroid II manual a canon instead of the Super Metroid manual. It, wasn't particularly good, and my writing skills have improved so much since then.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 2nd 2023 at 1:48:31 PM

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#18435: Feb 2nd 2023 at 1:56:17 PM

I finished Metroid Dread!

So, Samus wasn't a clone of the actual Samus?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#18436: Feb 2nd 2023 at 2:01:27 PM

What? No, I don’t think so. What?

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RacattackForce Since: Aug, 2009
#18437: Feb 2nd 2023 at 2:40:34 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that theory. That Samus in Dread would turn out to really be the SA-X. I don't remember why it was a theory, but it got kinda popular and I saw a few different variants of it around for a good few weeks before the game's launch. And a lot of debate over whether Nintendo would finally progress the storyline after 19 years only to pull a twist like that.

Edited by RacattackForce on Feb 2nd 2023 at 5:52:09 AM

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#18438: Feb 2nd 2023 at 3:42:49 PM

I didn't think she was SA-X, I thought she was a clone made by Raven Beak which is why she had lost all her equipment again, and why Raven Beak didn't just kill her, plus Kraid was cloned, and Raven Beak doing something with the X-parasites which can mimic other creatures, and her physiology seemed weird even by Samus standards, and Raven Beak saying at the end he can just clone Samus.

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Perseus from Australia Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#18439: Feb 2nd 2023 at 3:53:36 PM

Raven Beak never got the chance to put his cloning scheme into action. Samus is Samus. He didn't kill her because he needed to draw out her true potential to make use of her.

Edited by Perseus on Feb 2nd 2023 at 10:54:38 PM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18440: Feb 2nd 2023 at 4:00:37 PM

When Raven Beak said he could clone Samus, I'm pretty sure he meant he could order Quiet Robe, a scientist, to clone her. Unless cloning someone is actually really easy and Raven Beak actually does know how to work the equipment, even though he's primarily a warrior, which I guess would have to be the case, since by that point Quiet Robe is dead.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 2nd 2023 at 5:01:05 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#18441: Feb 2nd 2023 at 4:39:41 PM

I like to imagine the Chozo are so advanced even their most Book Dumb warriors are still leagues smarter and more technologically adept than the average human.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18442: Feb 2nd 2023 at 4:55:01 PM

Or, alternatively, all their equipment is very user friendly.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#18443: Feb 2nd 2023 at 9:25:20 PM

Yeah, I mean, I have no freakin' clue how my computer works but I still use it jus fine.

-smacks the monitor for fritzing out-

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#18444: Feb 3rd 2023 at 12:56:14 AM

There is nothing to imply that Raven Beak is incapable of cloning her with his own knowledge.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#18445: Feb 3rd 2023 at 1:40:51 PM

They should port Samus Returns to the Switch.

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#18446: Feb 4th 2023 at 10:13:46 AM

Raven Beak has advanced machinery doing his bidding like robots and stuff. I'm sure he has a cloning machine with an advanced AI that does all the hard work for him.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#18447: Feb 4th 2023 at 10:18:40 AM

This is technically fanon, but I maintain that metroids have a strong Healing Factor, and can recover from any injury, given enough time, up to and including decapitation, in the later stages where they have heads, just so long as the metroid's nucleus remains intact.

Edited by WillKeaton on Feb 4th 2023 at 11:29:29 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#18448: Feb 4th 2023 at 10:25:30 AM

Seems plausible since when Samus kills more developed Metroids, she’s still attacking the nucleus.

I guess with the exception of fighting the queen the hard, slow way

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#18449: Feb 4th 2023 at 8:46:05 PM

My personal WMG on the small False Kraids is that they aren't really clones, they're his telepresence stunt doubles, since his true body is too big to fit into some places. It makes NES Metroid make even more sense, that Kraid would fake his death after Samus there kills his stunt double bodies, treating one of them as his 'real' stunt double.

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#18450: Feb 4th 2023 at 9:35:34 PM

Mother Brain: "Where the hell were you? Samus blew me the fuck up!"

Kraid: "Uhhhhhhh maternity leave?"

Mother Brain: "you're on thin fuckin ice"

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