Super Smash Bros.

All they need to do is add more lag to the grounded version

And in Xenoblade 2, Mythra is basically superior to Pyra in every way, including damage.

Even lore-wise, Pyra's persona was explicitly created by Mythra as a means of burying her true power away. She was specifically designed to only have access to a fraction of the power that Mythra possesses.

Mythra is basically too powerful so she's kinda dangerous for her world, from what I've gathered.

There was a Monster Hunter digital event today, and now I'm hoping that when Monster Hunter: Rise releases, we'll get a Spirit event for that game. Heck, we even have a good candidate for the flagship monster Magnamalo: a purple Incineroar.

So basically, Pyra and Mythra should've been swapped; Pyra should've been faster but weaker and Mythra should've been stronger but slower.

For Gameplay balance reasons you can't have Pyra be completely worthless and Mythra the only thing you can use. Otherwise you end up with Melee's Zelda/Shiek problem.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Mar 8th 2021 at 12:54:29 PM

I think they're saying that according to the story, Mythra should be stronger and faster than Pyra.

Few pages someone mentioned smash invites

Alexandra Roivas:Gets an invite but the sanity effects say otherwise

A slow Mythra would be completely out of character. Canonically she should be better in every way, but since that obviously can't be the case the current arrangement feels fitting, if nothing else.

Edited by Perseus on Mar 8th 2021 at 9:11:29 PM

Yeah, if you have to balance speed vs. power, then "Pyra stronk, Mythra go fast" is better fitting than the inverse, though you're breaking canon either way.

The best part about new character releases is the random pairings that happen one way or another.

The latest one being Mythra and Kazooie hating each other. Guess having two super sassy ladies is too much for smash to handle.

My reasoning for this: Hinoka's spirit battle also uses a red Lucina.

It's funnier this way.

Oh, yeah, it'd be even less in character for Mythra to be slow. Pyra being stronger here may contradict her source material, but it's no worse than, say, Mewtwo being lightweight. It's an acceptable sacrifice for the sake of game balance.

I mean, she has light as an element. Slow light is just a no-no.

I don't think just because you're part of the forces of light/good means you should be as fast as light.

Edited by agent-trunks on Mar 9th 2021 at 3:52:28 AM

No, she literally has light elemental attacks. Photons.

Light 'em Up indeed.

I don't remember all the details since it was years ago when I watched it, but there's a cutscene in Xenoblade 2 where they put emphasis on Mythra & her abilities not being truly lightspeed. Jin, who's moving at the speed of light, was constantly speed-blitzing them to the point no one on Rex's team could do anything at all. When Mythra try to retaliate with her own attack that she believed that's lightspeed Jin barely had to put any effort into it & outright saying it's not actually lightspeed.

Granted, this argument is pretty moot because when Pyra/Mythra awaken their true power as Pneuma, or whatever her actual form/name is, Rex with her power was able to decisively defeat Jin.

Any Xenoblade 2 fans feel free to correct me on that.

Well, I'm pretty sure no one was arguing Mythra had to actually be light speed. Just that it doesn't make sense for her to be slow.

In that case, no, I need her to be literally an anime swordswoman.

She’s an anime sword woman, does that count?

Quite literally, yea.

Really most of the DLC has been enjoyable, but I like Pyra/Mythra as much as I love maining Cloud. And I didn't even touch Xenoblade before. Also helps that Pyra/Mythra are essentially Zelda/Sheik done right. Granted, from what I can tell Pokemon Trainer already beaten them to the punch, but I still stand by what I said.

Mythra's still the more powerful one in Smash, because she has the most combo potential.

Grasping straws here, but during the presentation, Sakurai said he has figurines of characters that'll be playable so it would be easier to model. Mario & Link were the only characters that had more than one figurine

There are already multiple Marios and multiple Links.