The first isn't a bad idea.
The second has been suggested before, and always shot down. Alphabetising examples would mean having to put new examples somewhere in the middle of the list. Putting them at the end makes it a lot easier for readers to spot the ones they haven't read before.
I see the Awesomeness.
The first idea is one I enforce on any page I start curating (along with standardizing the format). The second one seems like a pain on most tropes that don't have extremely long work lists.
Fight smart, not fair.
"Alphabetising examples would mean having to put new examples somewhere in the middle of the list. Putting them at the end makes it a lot easier for readers to spot the ones they haven't read before."
Doktorvan Eurotrash, okay, that's a good argument, but if that's the case, then why alphabetize them on the works pages, particularly the extremely long ones, instead of just sticking them at the bottom?
It really shouldn't be "title or person" it should be 'title.' There is always some work that has a title being referenced. There isn't always a character. Making the work's title be the lead-off also makes it very clear where the example goes and what it should be indented under.
So ... Examples go in the appropriate medium folder, in alphabetic order by the work's title, with the work's title as the lead for the example.
edited 30th Nov '10 8:54:22 AM by FastEddie
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The problem is, what do you do about a work that has multiple names, or multiple works with the same name, or an example for an entire series? Sometimes it's not as clear cut.
edited 30th Nov '10 12:49:55 PM by storyyeller
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That is sort of an edge-case. Anyway, it is easy to beat. If a given work has a bunch of associated titles — like Harry Potter having a bunch of book titles — just make a "The Harry Potter Series" bullet and double bullet the titles under it.
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I don't know adding the newest at the bottom has always worked well in seeing that the newest examples are actually correct and easier to compare with the ones that were in YKTTW which are at the top and its a hell of a lot easier on large pages or ones that are written kind of funny.
edited 30th Nov '10 1:39:34 PM by Raso
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Checking new examples is best done by looking at the edit history.
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More like giant cherries
The edit history doesn't seem very helpful. It will throw entire paragraphs in there just because someone corrected a typo or added a comma.
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Not to mention that the edit history gets cleared occasionally, so it's useless when revisiting a page after a long time.
Hey, fellow tropers, can we start re-arranging the examples given in the trope pages to be more neat the way they are under the works and characters pages?
This means two things. 1. Putting the title or person at the start of the example explanation.
2. Alphabetizing the names of the title or the person.
I know this isn't an ideal task, but it would make a huge difference. If each troper re-arranges the examples for one medium on one page that would be a great start.