Warhammer 40,000

The thirst is pretty much a mark of slaanesh in a wild race the dark eldar are pretty much chaos eldar without being chaos eldar.

and slaanesh dosent like that, not one bit.

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The Thirst is only a thing because the Drukhari continue to indulge in the same behaviors that spawned Slaanesh in the first place. The rest of the Aeldari don't seem to suffer from it, though their souls are still vulnerable after death. Drukhari that abandon their hedonism gradually stop feeling the Thirst.

Edited by M84 on Dec 31st 2019 at 5:44:48 PM

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It can't be both, Dramatically Missing the Point is where the fail to realise the reason behind something where as Ignored Epiphany is someone realising and doing ignoring the consequences, so as you pointed out Ignored Epiphany is the more appropriate of the two. Thanks

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I've been wondering about this for a while now — how bad are the Drukhari compared to the old Aeldar Empire at the height of their power and hedonism? I've seen some places where it's said that the Drukhari are toned down from the old Aeldar hedonism, and other places where it's said that the Drukhari went into the Webway specifically to engage in depravity that was too much for even the rest of the Aeldar Empire at its worst.

Edited by M84 on Dec 31st 2019 at 5:54:13 PM

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I think they are worse but more focused on torture and sadism than general excess/hedonism of the Aeldari Empire. It is true that those in Commorragh during the Fall were the worst because the port was considered neutral territory at the time so was outside the jurisdiction of Aeldari authority in the early days of the excess when such things still existed

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The Drukhari have additional motivation to double down since their hedonism and sadism is also tinged with quiet desperation thanks to the Thirst.

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True. Hmmm. I wonder if there is a trope for being compelled to do something to survive even if you know it is wrong.

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Then again they aren't really compelled to do it. They do have the choice of not being hedonists anymore.

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is not like the path system is any better, they avoid the thirst by pretty much shutdown your mind and creating artificial personalities so you dont feel anything.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

No, they do feel emotions, they're just very strict about which ones. There's an entire path given over to grieving, that's not fake emotions, it's directing and pruning real ones.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."

Im taking about the mask in which are describe as sort of other personalities and how by a war mask a eldar who tend is garden can kill without feeling pity or remorse.

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Does anyone know if there are any information about the Aeldari Empire and the Human federation interacting with each other before the birth of Slaanesh? Because that must have been fascinating.

Something I generally enjoy about the setting is that the (space) elves are just as arrogant as the worst examples in fiction, but have actually little reason for being so. I mean as bad as the Empire is, it has at least not yet created a new chaos god through its' own depravity. Though I suppose that Abbadon's recent little eye of terror experimemt does level the score regarding the damage done to the galaxy by each species

Pretty much the same if not worse, depending on if the Haemonculi are telling the truth about kicking off the pleasure cults they might actually be a continuation that empire. According to a Harlequin the Beast Arises series they kicked the ass of the D Ao T empire and their men of iron at one point. They're canonically a few centuries at best away from shitting out Malal with a golden fringe and a copyright-proof name and the Eldar know it. Also being the most successful empire in known history is one hell of an ego boost.

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Yeah, fighting the necron, chaos, enduring almost forever, the eldar empire was beaten by their own action, not because half of it turn into a civil war.

the imperium have a 2 thousand years of apex and have being in a crazy downright spiral ever since.

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Is that with Mallal canon or just a fan theory? Didn't the necrons win the war in heaven, but went into hibernation because the galaxy went almost devoid of life? And did they actually fight chaos during this time? I thought chaos became active only later on?

To me it seems that the old Aeldari Empire was what would the Human Empire would be like if Abbaddon wins, which has not happened yet.

Edited by Zarastro on Jan 1st 2020 at 3:44:53 PM

Malal doesn't exist any more due to copyright issues, when he does turn up he is called Malice now.

Anyway, the Model of the results are: Abaddon the Despoiler, Warmaster of Chaos

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It's been noted in some materials that as far as the Drukhari are concerned, they are the "true" Aeldar. And it's hard to dispute that, given they are arguably the closest to what the old Aeldar Empire was like before the Fall.

Edited by M84 on Jan 2nd 2020 at 12:27:56 AM

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No, that was old stuff, in the new lord the necrons rebel against the ctan and between that a civil war, the eldar strike and must of the necron just goes to sleep.

Which is hilarious because comorragh was pretty much an outcast gattering, think 20-30 shangai with tortuga and every den of infamy ever.

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Commorragh was essentially the place where Aeldar did shit that even the rest of the Aeldar Empire at its worst thought may have been a tad excessive.

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With the new fluff for Psychic Awakening and even the Tau accidentally a Warp god, it's a wonder humanity hasn't shat out some psychic abomination or other. Presumably it's all being channeled towards Big E.

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> and even the Tau accidentally a Warp god

how the?Why the?

They dont even have a prsence in the warp!

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It's not the Tau that made it. It's the warp sensitive species they've indoctrinated into "The Greater Good." So now there's a Greater Good entity.

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They do have a presence in the warp, for the record, it's just tiny. Where to a demon an Eldar soul is a delicious three-course meal and a human soul is a quarter pounder with fries, a Tau soul is more or less a stale soda cracker.

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What happened is that the Tau's Fourth Sphere of Expansion fleet experimented with traveling through the Warp using tech based on the Imperium's FTL and ended up trapped in it. There, the survivors were rescued by a many armed entity that they believed was an echo of the Tau race.

This led to a rise in xenophobia among the Tau survivors of the Fourth Sphere. They believed that the auxiliaries psychic perception of the Greater Good created the entity, and that they needed to purge the auxiliaries to get rid of it. The Fourth Sphere Tau survivors more or less adopted a mindset very similar to the Imperium's when it comes to other races.

Note that it's not actually confirmed whether or not the auxiliaries psychic presence is truly responsible for the entity's existence. It's entirely possible that the minor Warp presence of the Tau themselves was enough.

Yeah, something that truly has no Warp presence would be effectively soulless, much like a blank or a Necron.

Edited by M84 on Jan 2nd 2020 at 9:09:09 PM

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