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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#31301: Feb 8th 2019 at 7:53:42 AM

[up][up]Duh, are armies supposed to lead with squish wizards and artillery?

Edited by Prany on Feb 8th 2019 at 7:54:10 AM

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31302: Feb 8th 2019 at 7:56:47 AM

Land Raider Crusader, Black Templar Crusader Squads, Imperial Guard Crusader units (why they're in the IG now is anyone's guess, they used to be an Inquisitor thing), there's the game called Black Crusade...

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31303: Feb 8th 2019 at 8:01:22 AM

Crusader units (why they're in the IG now is anyone's guess, they used to be an Inquisitor thing)

Ecclesiarchy. They are intended to be the bodyguards of the Priests that accompany Miltarum Regiments which is why they have the Adeptus Ministorum Faction Keyword as well as the Astra Militarum Keyword (which they have for Matched Play reasons)

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#31304: Feb 8th 2019 at 8:08:26 AM

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you, that no one remembers the Knight Crusader, or the Crusader class robot. However, I draw the line at trying to list all the various ships, war engines, and wargear that have 'Crusader' in their name. tongue

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31305: Feb 8th 2019 at 8:10:11 AM

[up][up] Right, but back in 5th edition onwards they were usually in Grey Knights or Inquisition lists, not part of the Astra Militarum. In the lore, sure, I can buy that, but in terms of their placement in a Codex they were usually buddied up with the eyes of the Emperor.

I remember back in 5th edition they were usually used as low-cost, surprisingly resilient tarpits, because a Storm Shield's not bad, even on a T3 unit.

Edited by math792d on Feb 8th 2019 at 5:30:28 PM

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31306: Feb 8th 2019 at 8:33:07 AM

[up]Well if I remember correctly they were initially part of the Emperor's Tarot theme that Inquisitorial Retinues had in those days. Even then I think they were Ecclesiachy units seconded to the Inquisition though.

They are probably going to be in the Sororitas Codex without the Militarum Keyword, as will probably be the case with any Inquisition Codex that is released.

Edited by SebastianGray on Feb 8th 2019 at 4:36:16 PM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31307: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:46:59 AM

I've launched the Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team page. I never know what to do with the original Sandbox in these situations however.

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#31308: Feb 9th 2019 at 11:25:35 AM

[up] Looks pretty good as it is, actually. I don't see any problems.

... And that's called jazz!
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31309: Feb 11th 2019 at 2:24:16 AM

Next week's pre-order: The Ambull for Blackstone Fortress.

It is an expansion set for the game that will also include a datasheet to use it in 40K. There will also be a dedicated Blackstone Fortress carry case.

Edited by SebastianGray on Feb 11th 2019 at 10:24:40 AM

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#31310: Feb 11th 2019 at 6:07:07 AM

Once a page is launched, its Sandbox version can be cutlisted.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31311: Feb 11th 2019 at 8:00:11 AM

[up]Cool thanks. I added it to the cutlist.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#31312: Feb 13th 2019 at 1:12:28 PM

With all of the new stuff that the Genestealer Cults have now in terms of models and vehicles, I'm wondering if they should get their own dedicated page.

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#31313: Feb 13th 2019 at 5:25:49 PM

I would say either that or at least an expanded folder on the current page kinda like the chapter pages.

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31314: Feb 13th 2019 at 11:32:25 PM

I haven't read the Codex yet but I do think giving them their own dedicated section on the Tyranid page rather than just a folder would be a better solution at the present time. As far as I am aware the page is still within its size limit and they are still a part of the overall faction.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31315: Feb 14th 2019 at 12:52:56 AM

A lot of the vehicles don't seem like they should be particular to genestealers - stuff like, "this is a civilian mining vehicle repurposed as a war machine" and "they use these buggies for scouting."

Makes me wonder if they'd ever consider Lost and Damned variants of those vehicles, or even other rebel factions.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31316: Feb 14th 2019 at 1:00:48 AM

[up]That is an issue with a lot of Heretic Astartes vehicles as well. In the Cult vehicle case I generally prefer a wait and see approach and make a decision when/if they get mentions or become options for other factions.

Speaking of the Renegades and Heretics, I had been thinking of possible splitting their entry into Chaos Cult and Traitor Militarum folders (possibly a Mutant folder as well) as they do often appear separately in the background material.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31317: Feb 14th 2019 at 9:23:40 AM

Double post for the 40K Ambull rules:

Ambull: M-6" WS-3+ BS-6+ S-6 T-6 W-7 A-4 Ld-6 Sv-3+

Weapons: Enormous Claws: Melee S-User AP -3 D-D3

Special Rules: Rapid Tunnelling - The model can be removed from the battlefield at the beginning of the Movement phase and replaced anywhere on the battlefield more than 9" away from an enemy model at the end of the next Movement phase; Rad-Maggot Symbiosis - regains D3 lost wounds at the beginning of each battle round.

Edited by SebastianGray on Feb 14th 2019 at 5:24:14 PM

bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#31318: Feb 14th 2019 at 11:48:14 AM

[up] How does that thing work as far as keywords? Can you just take it in any detachment, or what?

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31319: Feb 14th 2019 at 12:06:24 PM

A lot of vehicle allegiances mainly count on how they're colored, especially since Traitor and Imperial forces use the same stuff.

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#31320: Feb 14th 2019 at 12:20:20 PM

Flavour-wise the Cult vehicles are civilian vehicles but crunch-wise they are exclusive to them so I'd say that's justification enough to put them in the Cult section. Besides, what are the chances of us actually getting Lost and Damned rules again?

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#31321: Feb 14th 2019 at 3:29:22 PM

To be fair, in the conversion videos they're just flat out using genestealer cultists as chaos cultists. It's not hard-coded in the rules, but there's an argument to be made that Genestealer vehicles could also be used as chaos cultist vehicles. I'd allow it, personally.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#31322: Feb 14th 2019 at 3:30:16 PM

[up][up][up][up] We haven't seen the full datasheets yet, so we can't know how the faction keywords will work for it.

EDIT: Thinking about it, there's a chance it might not even be available for Matched Play.

Edited by disruptorfe404 on Feb 15th 2019 at 1:14:46 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31323: Feb 14th 2019 at 7:58:51 PM

It makes sense; Chaos cultists would definitely be a more irregular force unless it's an invasion force being used by Chaos armies.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31325: Feb 15th 2019 at 6:18:14 AM

Info from the New York Toy Fair

Blackstone Fortress Prequal game: Combat Arena

Combat Arena is a fast-paced miniatures combat game that pits you against your friends in lighting-quick bouts of tactical action. Set aboard an Imperial vessel, the game sees each player pick a hero and battle it out, mastering their distinct fighting styles and abilities to claim victory. Each of these champions is represented by a brand-new model from classic and fan-favourite units of yore such as the Crusader and Primaris Psyker – not to mention a new Rogue Trader!

In fact, the set is a prequel to Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress, and that ancient structure has further perils in store for them – keep an eye out for them in an upcoming adventure pack…

Continuation (Damn it, I shouldn't try painting while typing I only end up with Nuln Oil over my desk)

The Combat Arena Models: Cool Crusader; nice Tech-Priest; Bulky Servitor; Female Primaris Psyker; Peg legged Female Rogue Trader.

Funko: Space Wolf; Ultramarine; Dark Angel; Blood Angel

Space Marine Heroes Season 2: Blood Angel Terminators

Also conformation of Space Marine Heroes Season 3

Edited by SebastianGray on Feb 15th 2019 at 2:32:44 PM


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