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What Do You Like About Other M?

So, you're not too keen on this scene, but you do like the game as a whole enough to defend this scene. Why?

It can't be the writing; that's objectively bad. Even on its basic structural elements, the writing is awful; the only thing it gets right is English grammar. The plotting is poor; there are many plotlines without any idea of what the "main" plot is. And the different threads are poorly handled; oftentimes, entire plotlines are just dropped without comment or consequence. Indeed, this very scene is an example; you could cut it (and all appearances of Poke-Ridley) from the game without little consequence for anything. You'd need a little patching up of course, for Adam and Anthony's deaths. But that's about it.

The voice acting is basically a two hour tutorial on how not to do voice acting and direction. Wooden and monotone doesn't even begin to describe it. The cinematography is poor, many of the characters are faceless redshirts, and the only ones who aren't besides the two leads (Adam and Samus) are nothing more than broad caricatures. There is nothing nuanced about this story at all.

So what is there to like here? You don't need to answer in a comment or something. I just want you to think about what it is about this story overall that you like? What is so good about this game as a whole that makes you rise up and defend this scene?

The most common defensive argument that speaks to this perspective is something of the form, "Other M as a whole gives Samus a character." I'm going to go deeper into this in the next section, because people who like the scene often say that the scene is a large contributing factor to that. But in terms of the work as a whole, consider what I said just above.

You could remove this scene entirely, without consequence for the plot, character, or themes of Other M. Everything the Ridley scene says about Samus's character is said elsewhere in the game. This scene may say it loudly, but there are other scenes that say it just as loudly if not moreso. Indeed, this scene is really nothing more than the 2 minute version of Other M's entire story: Samus is weak and ineffectual. Big strong man must save her life and dies in the process. Samus then fights the badguy, but doesn't get to actually kill it; someone else does that because otherwise she wouldn't continue to be weak and ineffectual.

Indeed, you could just cut out the "turns into a child" part of the scene. Cut straight from Ridley howling at her to the part where he grabs her. Not only does it flow better (it also removes the Adam stuff, which really gets in the way of the scene's pacing and focus), you wouldn't even notice something's gone. The scene would play out just fine without it.

So why defend this scene, when the work as a whole still gets its point across and the most unacceptable bit is completely superfluous?

Why Do You Like This Scene?

You actually like this scene. That's fine; you have the right to your opinion. Why do you like it?

The most common defensive argument here is much like the previous one: "the scene gives Samus a character." This naturally presupposes that Samus did not in fact have a character before.

I contest this, for obvious reasons. Yes, Samus has had little dialog or direct character interaction. But no character? The fundamental foundation of the "Show, don't Tell" rule is the understanding that actions speak louder than words. Samus's actions define who she is. And we see those actions played out in the many games in the series.

Yes, every player has their own path through the games, their own way of playing. But in every case, Samus goes to Zebes and takes out an entire Space Pirate base single-handedly. The specific events of the story may be different, but her overall actions are the same. Coupled with the various snippets from Samus or others we get, and you can assemble a pretty reasonable character from it. Most people generally come up with similar broad characteristics: independent, courageous, self-confident, etc.

Generally, when this argument is brought up, and this rebuttal is given, the next step is to modify the argument: "the scene gives Samus added depth as a character." There's an admission that Samus did have a character, but it's also an accusation that she was flat and uninteresting before. Thus, they're saying that this scene gives her other dimensions.

I agree that the Samus presented in the games is flat; she's only slightly more well-defined than Chell or Gordon Freeman. People can add whatever dimensions they want on top of that, but the character that the games show is not very dynamic. I'm going to ignore the fact that doing this in a videogame can work to the game's advantage for reasons of player interaction, the player seeing the protagonist as an avatar of themselves in the game space, immersion, etc. We're just judging the character as presented in a story.

Does this scene give Samus added depth? The answer to this is very complicated, due to the nature of the kind of character that Samus Aran has been up to this point. The easiest way to get it is via analogy.

Parents killed when a child. Raised by someone wise and caring. Trained as a fighter, and then decides to take the fight to those who killed the parents, but not out of revenge so much as this needs to be done and I'm the one who can do it.

Did I just describe Samus Aran? Or Batman?

Samus Aran is a Sci-Fi Superhero. She has many of the common elements of that kind of character. She has a secret identity (of a sort). She has superpowers; her suit is beyond anything else in the galaxy. She operates outside of the law (to a degree), and she fights evil. She's willing to fight evil wherever it is, whether in those who killed her parents or those who were once allies (the GF in Fusion and technically Other M).

Screw Attack, or S for Samus?

She's also a very "larger-than-life" character; the things she does are amazing within the context of the story. The GF military tries to sack Zebes and failed. Samus, one woman, goes in and cleans it out. This happens again and again in the games. The Ing fought a two-decades long war against the Luminoth and were literally minutes away from wining,*

until Samus came along and saved the day. By herself. In Corruption, when Dark Samus personally attacks Norion, there are four of the most badass bounty hunters in the galaxy present. When Dark Samus dives through the window and starts shooting, which one of these four doesn't get shot?

Even among her peers, she's the best. If they were the Justice League, she's Superman. She even has a symbol with an "S" on it.

Superhero stories need those larger-than-life elements. Spiderman is all kinds of badass, able to defeat various threats and such. But he also has human qualities and weaknesses. They often complicate his crime-fighting life, but the superhero elements still remain. He may be "relate-able," he may have average, everyday problems, but he's still a superhero.

Now, take such a larger-than-life character and put them in the Ridley scene. Take Tim Burton's Batman, the scene where Bruce Wayne meets the Joker. The part where the Joker says his trademark line and Bruce realizes that he murdered his parents. Now, imagine if Bruce got a bout of PTSD right there, if he regressed to a crying 8-year-old boy when confronted by the Joker, and Viki Vale was killed because of it.

Such a thing is plausible in terms of character. It's a legitimate, defensible thing that could happen, using the understanding that this happens in reality. But there's no way a writer would ever write that. You just don't do it; you don't have the main hero go through something like that. At least not in the way that Other M did it. It destroys their larger-than-life status; it makes them seem too weak and frail. Even if Batman overcomes it by the end of the work, the audience will always remember that time Bruce turned into a crying boy in front of his nemesis.

That's not to say that superheroes don't break down. But they don't do it that way. Again, looking at Tim Burton's Batman, the character is affected by this. But he did not freak out; it was a more subdued thing that he expressed when he was alone and able to process it.

Superheroes most certainly do not turn into crying children on-screen and lose their superpowers because of moments like this. Doing this makes them, not just too human, but too fragile to have that larger-than-life sensibility. However plausible it might be in the real world, it just doesn't work in this kind of fiction. It sends the wrong message. These are supposed to be larger-than-life characters; they're a cut above the common people. Doing this destroys this aspect of their character.

But there's another problem with this scene; it has to do with the specific way in which Samus is a superhero.

Every superhero generally has two elements to them: a superpower (or suite thereof), and a single, defining personality characteristic. The superpower is simply that which makes it possible for them to be a superhero. Bruce Wayne would just be a guy working a 9-to-5 job if he weren't arbitrarily wealthy. Without the leisure time and resources needed to actually be Batman, he'd just be a guy with a tragic backstory. The defining characteristic is the part of their personality that makes them want to be a superhero. It's what makes them superheroic.

It is the combination of these two elements, ability and drive, that makes for a good, memorable superhero. Superman has his superpowers and his sense of justice. Batman has his money and resources, and he is driven by the tragedy of his youth and his unwillingness to see it happen to anyone else. And so forth.

Depth in such characters is created by giving these characters additional traits, typically those that add friction to the ones they already have. In Batman Begins, Bruce's drive initially leads him to revenge; he only narrowly avoids this path thanks to luck and the hand of a friend (literally). It takes him time to get his principles on straight: he has this drive, the will to prevent these tragedies, but he needs to maintain his morality while doing so. The Dark Knight takes this even further. It uses other elements, his relationships, and plays with them, pushing him to break his rules, rescind his morality in his quest to stop the badguy.

But notice how carefully this is all done; at no time does the story remove Bruce's drive. It adds elements to the character that create nuances and complexities. But it never tampers with his basic character trait: that desire to prevent criminals from hurting people. Instead, it creates circumstances where that trait is a liability or otherwise interferes with other traits, like what Batman won't do to achieve that.

Similar, Superman stories can revolve around elements external to his need for justice. For all the problems with Superman Returns, it introduced a major complexity: his son. A son he cannot raise or even acknowledge as his own. He can't very well tell Lois that he's the father; there's no Hallmark card for "We had sex, totally consensual I might add, but then I wiped your mind and ran off for 5 years. Sorry." It didn't change his quest for justice, his drive to save people. But it did add a snag for him as a person.

Indeed, even many bad superhero stories retain the basic elements of the character. Batman and Robin never changed who Batman was. It was Godawful for many, many other reasons.

So what of Samus and Other M? To judge this, we must first identify what her defining character trait is. Let's take a look at some of the things that happen in Metroid games.

Samus Aran is shot down, loses her superpowers, is left with a catsuit and a pistol that can only stun something and even then just once every 2 seconds. Between her and where she needs to go is a large Space Pirate ship, crawling with people who would like nothing better than to tear her limb from limb. She looks carefully at this situation and says, "Fuck it; I'm gonna Solid Snake this shit!" And then does it.

Samus Aran is being hunted by a sentient parasite that's using her own power armor against her. She can't last more than a few seconds in a fight against this creature. At one point, she hears the ominous footsteps of the monster. She's heard it before, only this time it's waiting for her. It's directly in her way. She's got no chance in this fight. But she jumps down there anyway. She can't kill SA-X, but if she does it right, she can get past it.

Samus Aran is confronted by a planet made of a living, corruptive force that has already consumed an entire species, as well as three of the best hunters in the galaxy. This same force has infested her body and is starting to consume her. She takes one look at this planet and decides to go down there, find a vulnerable spot, and blow it straight to hell.

For my money, Samus Aran is defined by her boundless courage. There is no task so big that Samus won't take on. Stop alien threats to the galaxy? End a decade's long war while she's in the neighborhood? Halt invasions from beyond the galaxy? And so on.

The Ridley scene is nothing less than a direct assault on her courage. It takes the thing that defines her and annihilates it. You can talk about PTSD till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that this character's most defining trait, the thing that drives her to be a superhero, is crushed by this scene. It is thrown on the floor and viciously savaged.

So this scene doesn't add complexity to her character; it removes something. She goes from being a larger-than-life embodiment of courage to being a victim. She's transformed from a superhero into a human with fancy power armor. There's nothing super about her anymore except for what she can do.

Even if I were to accept the statement, "the scene gives Samus added depth as a character," this depth is created at the expense of that which made her special and larger-than-life. It doesn't make her a more interesting character; it makes her a weaker character. It takes the elements that were strong and good about her and erodes them. People make the argument that you have to do this to give the character greater complexity, but that's bullshit. As previously stated, superhero stories avoid this all the time; you can add complexity and depth without taking away what makes a superhero special. There is a difference between giving a character weaknesses and making the character weak.

For example, what if she got people killed because of her courage? What if Adam was killed because Samus's boundless courage led her to arrogance and overconfidence, getting herself into a tight situation? Maybe that's what led her to leave the GF and become a solitary bounty hunter. Maybe she thinks human beings are easily frightened, perpetually terrified creatures, that she thinks of herself as better than they are. She was raised by aliens after all. I can keep going with this, but my point is clear: you can maintain what works about the character while adding depth.

This scene, and the game as a whole, does not.

So no, not buying it. I'll take flat and superhero over "depth" and weak any day.

Comments

Scardoll Since: Dec, 1969
May 30th 2012 at 4:06:14 PM
Interesting.

I dislike the PTSD explanation for another reason: PTSD is a copout explanation. It is the equivalent of saying that Samus got sad due to magic fairy dust, because neither has any evidence supporting it outside of that scene. There is no source that says Samus has PTSD, there is nothing in the other Metroid games to suggest it, and the only supporting evidence is from the manga, which only has the stress occurring the very next time she meets Ridley (Making it rather suspect whether it was actually PTSD or just a regular old panic attack). The only reason why people suggest that Samus had post-traumatic stress disorder is that the disease is conveniently unpredictable in how it pops up, so they can say “Oh, she didn’t show any signs of it before because PTSD doesn’t need to do that.”

I don't like magic fairy dust being the explanation for Character Derailment.
LostHero Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 30th 2012 at 11:18:04 PM
Very well said, comrade.
Cider Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 18th 2013 at 6:12:09 AM
Post traumatic stress does have common signs. Difficulty remembering things that do not relate directly to the causes, for example. Continual focus on the event in the face of happenings that do not relate to it at all. Hallucinations, inability to move, passing out...Samus seems to show none of the signs of this mental condition in the game. That is unless the cause of her post traumatic stress is not Ridley but Adam, then I suppose one could make a (weak) case for it.

Yes, Samus shows a symptom of Post Traumatic Stress. Well I could sneeze and cough a lot all day, those are symptoms of flue. That does not mean I have a flue though, it could be allergies. Do I have a fever too?
LightChrysalis Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 2nd 2013 at 6:26:11 AM
Disclaimer: I have not seen/played Other M. My experience of it is entirely based in your critique.

One of the biggest problems with telling stories in videogames is that it's hard to make the player feel like they're making progress while still keeping their characters from becoming godlike superbeings that never fail. The fact that your entire criticism of this scene is based on the "Samus is a superhero" starting point indicates that previous games completely failed; after all, Samus has already done godlike things.

I propose that the idea behind this scene IS to destroy that image—to remind you that Samus IS just someone in a fancy suit. An incredible someone who does amazing things, but not a god. A Marvel superhero, not a DC one.

If you think about it from the point of view of the writers, it's clear that their goal is to tear Samus-as-superhero completely down. The one-person army is very 1980s. Flawed, human characters are way more interesting. If they had done this well, there would be no question that Other M would be heralded as a great story. Think Batman Beyond, where Bruce Wayne's Batman is shown has having gotten old, maybe lost his touch, been forced to retire and pass the torch. The god was brought low by something they could not fight: their own humanity.

This tries to do the same to Samus. I applaud that.

All that said, I completely acknowledge that it fails completely. Instead of making Samus human, they derail her entirely.

TLDR; This idea COULD HAVE BEEN GREAT. But the writers were hacks.
Korval Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 8th 2013 at 7:47:47 AM
One of the biggest problems with telling stories in videogames is that it's hard to make the player feel like they're making progress while still keeping their characters from becoming godlike superbeings that never fail. The fact that your entire criticism of this scene is based on the "Samus is a superhero" starting point indicates that previous games completely failed; after all, Samus has already done godlike things.

The term "failed" presupposes the idea that there was some desire to succeeded. I contest this: none of the games were trying to do that at all. They didn't fail because they weren't trying to succeed to begin with.

Furthermore, Metroid games have done quite well in giving Samus moments of failure or difficulty within the context of the story. The entire Mother Brain fight in Super Metroid is basically a playable cutscene (assuming you have enough energy to survive the Hyper Beam once), one that you lose for most of the fight. Hardly a one-man army. Fusion likewise puts Samus in the position of the prey rather than the hunted. Zero Mission has Samus stripped of her gear and left weak and vulnerable, to fight her way through a Pirate ship.

Notably, all of these do it through gameplay rather than cutscenes. None of them detract from Samus as a character; indeed, they add to her character.

The Primes primarily do storytelling through the past. Rather than trying to stop Samus from being a wrecking machine, they take Samus out of the story entirely. The stories being told in those games are about what happened previously in these locations. This allows them to tell interesting stories in a novel way, while not subtracting anything from Samus herself.

I propose that the idea behind this scene IS to destroy that image—to remind you that Samus IS just someone in a fancy suit. An incredible someone who does amazing things, but not a god. A Marvel superhero, not a DC one.

I... contest part of this.

I contest the idea that Marvel heroes are in some way different from DC ones on this score. Marvel heroes may tend to have more faults, rather than being paragons and icons like DC's heroes. But that doesn't mean they don't have those elements to them.

Marvel heroes still have those larger-than-life elements to them. Tony Stark build his armor IN A MEME, WITH A MEME! Spiderman was able to invent web fluid, because of Science! And so forth.

Marvel heroes also have the two elements of superheroes: the abilities needed to be a hero and the driving force behind them. They may have more complexities to their drive than DC heroes, but it's still there.

The main thrust of your point is quite correct, and I acknowledge this: "a direct assault on her courage," that thing which makes her a superhero.

That's bad.

The one-person army is very 1980s. Flawed, human characters are way more interesting.

I contest that on general principle. Personally, I'm rather tired of these "flawed, human characters" who are little more than walking bags of neuroses. It's like the Dark Age of Comics, but everywhere, all at once. Nobody knows how to write a reasonably good character anymore; everybody's got to be some kind of sumovabitch or other. It is very possible to write characters that aren't assholes, douchebags, or some such that are still interesting.

Seriously, if I wanted to watch groups of douchebags be assholes at each other while the world slowly burns around them, I'd turn on the news.

However, the thing I contest the most is the primary thrust of my point: adding complexity does not require removing elements of character. If you want to make Samus more interesting than a "one-person army", fine; you don't have to stop her from being one to do that. I covered several ways of achieving that goal. And again, The Dark Knight Trilogy is a prime example. It's still Batman, still a superhero, just with more complexity.

Think Batman Beyond, where Bruce Wayne's Batman is shown has having gotten old, maybe lost his touch, been forced to retire and pass the torch. The god was brought low by something they could not fight: their own humanity.

And yet, he never once lost the drive to go out and right wrongs. He is still driven by the tragedy of his youth to help fix the world, so that nobody will ever have that happen to them. He may not be physically able to take care of business himself anymore, but that hasn't stopped him from wanting to.

The flesh may be weak, but the spirit never was. The Ridley scene attacked Samus's spirit, not her flesh.
Arawn444 Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 11th 2013 at 10:47:33 PM
I agree the scene was poorly played out and definitely could have been handled better, and it does function as a Shout Out to a scene in the obscure Metroid manga, which states Samus has PTSD regarding Ridley eating her parents in front of her. Why this bit of characterization has never been brought up - barring a brief expression of shock in one of the Prime games - the other times she thought she'd killed him I dunno, but she did get a lot of sh*t dumped on her in a short amount of time: her maternal instincts were awakened by the "Baby" Metroid only to be tossed into a meat-grinder by Mother Brain, she reunites with her ex-commanding officer/father figure (complete with Abusive Parent and Stockholm Syndrome-meets-Well Done Son Guy connotations), and finds out that the monster that murdered her parents - which she thought she'd finally Killed Off for Real* - has been accidentally cloned by the people she works for. Was her breakdown excusable? Yes. Was it poorly scripted and executed? Yes, but this is Team Ninja we're talking about, and the whole scene was evidently shoehorned in to begin with. Could the scene have been pulled off if handled properly? Yes, as illustrated (literally) in the manga.

Trollblade69 Since: Dec, 1969
Nov 9th 2013 at 10:39:55 PM
@Arawn444: You know, it's stupidity like that that made Korval dedicate the intro to the next part being all about HOW fanboys like you knock aside criticisms. Yes, she had all kinds of shit dropped on her, but she wasn't confused or uneasy with Adam's appearance. In fact, it's implied she'd probably be AT EASE with her husbando on the case. Plus it's also implied that it's been MONTHS since the intro tutorial scenes. Yes, she might've angsted about it then, but now she's just angsting about how "Adam is her guiding shepherd and nothing will go wrong as long as he's in control!".

I am also insulted at how you brainlessly, stupidly blame TEAM NINJA for this game's faults. I think it's been overestablished that THIS ENTIRE GAME WAS MADE EXCLUSIVELY BY NINTENDO. All Team Ninja did was be...well, I'll paraphrase The Oatmeal for this: "They were no longer game developers. They were now a mouse cursor inside a graphics program which Nintendo controlled by speaking, emailing, and instant messaging." So don't you fucking dare blame them for this.

Also, you're going to blame GAMEPLAY AND STORY SEGREGATION for Ridley's other deaths!?!? What the hell is wrong with you?! He blew up in Zero Mission, he got turned into a cyborg clone in Prime, he got cloned still in Super, and it was a frozen clone that was in Fusion!
IndirectActiveTransport Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 9th 2014 at 8:22:48 AM
Flawed, human characters are way more interesting. If they had done this well, there would be no question that Other M would be heralded as a great story.
Immersible free roaming Metroidvanias are more interesting than 'cinematic' pipe shooters.
All that said, I completely acknowledge that it fails completely.
What I do not get is why Samus had to be mutilated if the she was too 80s, too superheroy, too DC or something. Prime 3 was the ideal time to back off Metroid with roughly eight games known for atmospheric level designs, game play innovations, set piece plots and light characterization.

Future company heads, it would be better to let your Samus become a relic from an earlier age like Flash Gordon or the Doom guy. Make a new character who frightfully obeys a CO who technically is not her CO, unjustifiably gushes over him, breaks down in her line of work and generally proves herself the anti-Samus. Put her in a straight forward no side path no backtrack anti-Metroidvania. Do a parody too, the Samus equivalent Captain Space, Defender of Earth!.

Maybe you now have three marketable characters, even if only because Nostalgia or Grandfather Clause keeps the "outdated" Samus type alive. Maybe the other two fail but your Samus is still untainted. Batman has remained popular despite the likes of Spider-man and The Ambiguously Gay Duo so there is precedent for simply making other things.

Beyond characterization, story and level layout, you want a scantly clad whip wielding waif? Why not create one? Why stuff one assuredly not that character into the role like Super Smash Bros Brawl awkwardly did. You want a clap your hands henshin hero? Why not make her and not break three plots to make Samus her. Especially if the character/brand fell into you possession or could otherwise be considered joint custody. Prime managed to mutilate things less, the mostly optional scan visor being the biggest change coming from a shift from 3rd to 1st person AND an added dimension to move in.
TheDoomSong Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 12th 2017 at 10:08:01 PM
@Indirect Active Transport

Brawl still kept Samus as a badass who gets things done. Hell, Zero Suit Samus is top tier and kicks all sorts of ass. Simply being in a bodysuit does not make a character weak or sexist or whatever.
Godofwar Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 30th 2021 at 12:58:30 AM
I am VERY late, but I want to say my piece here. I\'ve just chosen to interpret her reaction to Ridley as a result of her legitimately believing he was dead. You know, cause she blew up the planet he was on. I\'ve always seen Ridley as being one of the few things outside of maybe Dark Samus that actually presses Samus\'s buttons. She has a personal beef with the guy that goes back to her childhood. Yes, Ridley has shown up without her expecting it before, and she hasn\'t reacted, but the only time she saw him in a similar context (believing he was dead) was Metroid Prime. But that happens so SOON after Metroid 1/Zero Mission that, again in my viewing of it, she didn\'t really process it. And seeing Meta Ridley lets her realize how annoyingly resilient Ridley is, which means his death isn\'t particularly likely in any event. At least, until she blows up the planet he is on, which DID kill him. So she goes on truly believing him to be dead, and then all the crap in this game happens. She sees him rise from the flames like a literal demon, and her first reaction is likely that realization that even the most destructive thing she could do to this thing can\'t even kill it. Granted, the way it\'s SHOT is ass, but this is probably the only scene in this game that I feel COULD have worked with some tweaking. It\'s just my opinion though, and I completely understand why a lot of people HATE this scene and can\'t blame them.
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