Follow TV Tropes

Following

Context Trivia / DungeonFighterOnline

Go To

1* AllStarCast: The Japanese version of DNF consists of well known seiyuus such as Creator/KanaUeda, Creator/SoichiroHoshi, Creator/DaisukeOno, and Creator/NobuyukiHiyama.
2* AuthorsSavingThrow: Neople developer MJ is well-known for pulling these on ''DFO Global''.
3** Avatars released in 2018 onwards were made tradeable between players due to numerous complaints about Avatars being untradeable.
4** After MJ had a rather spectacular RandomNumberGod-induced [[HeroicBSOD meltdown]] on the official DFO Discord server regarding the Korean version's [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} MIKUMIKU]] [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/sales/MIKUMIKU-Package package]][[labelnote:Say what now?]]He spent hundreds of USD worth in Korean won trying to roll an aura MJ designed himself, and he [[ShaggyDogStory still never got it]][[/labelnote]], he promised that ''Global'''s version of the package would have none of that. Indeed, when the package released on August 4th, 2018, no RNG elements were present.
5** Averted with the stealth removal of the [=NeoPremium=] contract from Canna's slot machine. MJ [[LockedOutOfTheLoop wasn't informed of the change]] and the best he could do was [[https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348770099?t=53m18s lay out the problem]][[labelnote:*]]People were getting too much of a supposedly subscription service for free, plain and simple[[/labelnote]] without the "PR speak" that [[BrokenBase incensed the fanbase]] in the first place. The reveal that [=NeoPremium=]'s monthly subscription price was going to be dropped from roughly US$30 to US$9 did nothing to stem the anger. As one [[Website/{{Reddit}} /r/dfo]] user puts it:
6--> "Reminder that 9$ is not a reduction from 30$, but an increase from the 0$ they left in so long it turned into the default state of our server."
7** For the Korean version, the gearing changes made after the release of the level 95 cap are this. Raid-ready Epic gear is orders of magnitude faster to get than in level 90 cap, and one can even change the armor type of said equipment through recipes if need be. Even so, Kang Jung Ho, the game's director as of December 2018, [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/a9dtk9/kdnf_122519_directors_note_on_winter_update/ noted]] that more long-overdue quality of life improvements are in order, such as the unusual difficulty in obtaining swap gear.
8** Lv. 110 cap greatly overhauled endgame progression in response to numerous complaints about the extremely grindy nature of Lv. 100 cap. Compared to previous level caps, where Epics were incredibly rare and worked best in sets due to SetBonus, Lv. 105 Epics by comparison are extremely easy to get, are completely functional as independent pieces and allow players to fully gear a single character in less than a month. The new grind takes the form of a new EquipmentUpgrade system called Option Growth, which allows players to build towards endgame by slowly upgrading the potency of their gear's effects over time, making the process of upgrading to endgame feel more natural. The options to farm for Lv. 105 Epics are also incredibly diverse between standard and Advanced dungeons, giving players a ton of breathing room to grind how they want rather than being funneled into time-gated content as it were in Lv. 100 cap. As an added bonus, the Daily/Weekly dungeon system was overhauled into the Play Point system, where players can use Play Points earned by completing DFO Missions to buy entry tickets into advanced content without being arbitrarily limited in daily/weekly runs.
9* BadExportForYou:
10** In addition to the changes down the page, exp tables were generally inflated to gross levels, bugs were rampant (to the point where one event may mess up social features of the game), and generally an inferior experience. Nexon had the gall to call it a "unique experience", something people remember because of this trope.
11** DFOG in some ways inverts this as [[RegionalBonus there's certain tweaks like drop rates of normal gear/quest items being boosted that make it stand out compared to most versions.]] Otherwise it's very much on par with kDnF.
12* CashCowFranchise: You wouldn't know it by just looking at the ''Global'' playerbase, but ''Dungeon & Fighter'' is ''wildly'' popular in Asia, to the point where it prints more money than Nexon's [[VideoGame/MapleStory other popular MMORPG]]. In fact, it makes so much money, [[https://mmos.com/news/dungeon-fighter-online-bigger-franchise-star-wars it's made more money in 15 years]] than the aggregate box office sales of ''the entire Franchise/StarWars franchise'', grossing at least 1 ''billion USD every year for the past decade''! For comparison's sake, [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625060205310378006/698454687631802378/unknown.png these]] are the total earnings of every version of the game. China is ''two whole orders of magnitude'' more profitable in USD than in its home country of Korea.[[labelnote:Translation]]Top to bottom: Korea, China, Japan, Global, Total; Left to right: 2018, 2019[[/labelnote]] It certainly helps when top CDNF streamers are willing to drop [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/cs58ks/popular_cdnf_stream_asked_how_much_he_spent_on/?st=jzhnkcic&sh=dd560bce more than 20 million yuan]] on their accounts to be the best at the game. As of 2021 it is now [[http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20220323000612 the single highest grossing video game ever made]], eclipsing most ''multimedia franchises.''
13* ChristmasRushed:
14** The first Twitch stream that aired after the level 100 cap release had one of the developers admit the update was rushed, and it clearly showed; a fairly important endgame farming dungeon was completely omitted until the next maintenance and the dev team was rushing to fix optimization issues they accidentally re-introduced with the patch, including a GameBreakingBug concerning the game's 32-bit nature (the game crashed when more than 3 GB of memory was reserved).
15** As noted under ExecutiveMeddling, the male Slayer's 3rd Awakening had to be released earlier as a response to the Chinese version of [=DnF=] announcing the content earlier than expected.
16* ColbertBump: Fighting game spinoff ''VideoGame/DNFDuel'' attracted several new players between its pre-release promotional trailers and first open beta test. Most of them didn't even know what ''DFO'' was or its CashCowFranchise status in east Asia, mostly only coming from the trailers, word of mouth from fighting game-focused [=YouTube=] channels like LetsPlay/TheOnlineWarrior, [[https://www.youtube.com/c/Koefficient Koefficient]], and [[https://www.youtube.com/c/ANIMEILLUMINATI Jiyuna]], and the simple fact that Creator/ArcSystemWorks (''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'') was publishing the game and Creator/EightingRaizing (''VideoGame/FateUnlimitedCodes'', ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'') was in charge of development.
17* ContentLeak: Happens fairly often in ''Global'', as planned updates are often grouped together in large downloads and dripfed over the course of several weeks, unlike the Korean version. Future content updates such as new endgame dungeons and Awakenings are often spoiled weeks to months in advance by players data-mining these downloads.
18* CreatorsFavorite:
19** In [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/notices/1102/dfo-staff-favorite-characters-gerri?page=1 an interview with Gerri]], she states that her favorite class is the Light Bringer and that she has a crush on Woon Lyonir and Ludmilla.
20** Although MJ often plays himself up as a ComedicLolicon on stream, he truly does love mage classes, especially ones that can nuke huge areas. He only presents himself the way he does because the female Mage has been around for far longer than the male Mage in all versions of [=DnF=].
21* CreatorsPest: The developers have outright stated that they consider Creator and Dark Knight "a mistake" since they both failed at their intended purpose of being beginner-friendly characters due to their [[MechanicallyUnusualClass unusual gameplay]]. This belief largely contributed to them being locked behind a level requirement and their exclusion from multiple in-game mechanics and events.
22* EditedForSyndication: The sale of Skeleton Keys was [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/notices/2253/Notice-Regarding-Local-Consumer-Law-Restrictions?page=1 banned specifically in Belgium, Slovakia, and the Netherlands]] for running afoul of local legislation regarding gambling and LootBoxes.
23* ExecutiveMeddling: An interview by the Korean version's director [[https://youtu.be/5hFVv73vJu8?t=145 revealed]] that the male Slayer third Awakenings were basically ChristmasRushed, explaining the perceived lower quality of them compared to the female Slayer and male Fighter [=3As=] released earlier in the year. Some people speculate that this is because the Chinese version unexpectedly made the male Slayer 3A announcement first, presumably forcing Neople to speed up their development to cater to the version of [=DnF=] that [[https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2018/09/134_247195.html nets the most money]] for Neople.
24* FollowTheLeader: ''Dungeon and Fighter''[='=]s overwhelming success lead to the creation of numerous semi-clones such as ''{{VideoGame/Elsword}}'' and ''Kritika'', many of which attempt to bring the concept into 3D. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of these tend to be Korean [=MMOs=].
25* MemeAcknowledgment:
26** The mess that was DFOG's 2nd anniversary events (mentioned in the YMMV page) gets mentioned in the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vDZlHqM8U trailer of another event]], of all things.
27--> "[[BigNo NO!!]] [[TakeThatUs THIS IS NOT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR!!]]"
28** The above trailer also pokes a little fun at the "Deal with it" incident (see MemeticMutation in the YMMV page for details).
29--> "What would you choose? Truth or power? Either will take you to a whole new different level, but you have to deal with it."
30* NewbieBoom: The unexpected popularity of ''VideoGame/DNFDuel'' in the West lead to a sudden spike in new and returning players for the Global version of ''DFO'', mainly from those who were attracted to the game's style and lore.
31* NoBudget: ''Global'' developer MJ [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmgvuSoJt4o basically said as much]] on a Twitch stream following the release of Prey raid, when asked why the game's anti-cheat is such a joke. [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/dd2jt8/confirmations_on_the_october_3rd_exstream/ The stream following this one]] also had MJ admitting that the ''Global'' team downsized to the point where it's smaller than it was during the beta, citing people on the team leaving for better-paying positions, compounded by the (anecdotally) [[HostileWeather perpetually typhoon-ridden Jeju Island]], where both Nexon and Neople's [=HQs=] are located.
32* NoDubForYou:
33** While the game had English Voiceover when it was under Nexon America, Neople decided to simply publish the game with its Korean voiceover. A poll held by Neople also showed fans voted in a slightly higher margin to stick with Korean voiceover work although some did it out of the belief it would get the game out faster.
34** Although there are mods available to bring the English voiceovers that Nexon America had to the Neople version, there's still none for Female Slayer, Knight, Dark Knight, Creator, Lancer, and all of the Post-Metastasis [=NPCs=]. Making it impossible to fully avert this.
35** Averted with the ''DFO Global''-exclusive [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/events/Once-Upon-A-Time-In-Arad Once Upon A Time in Arad event]], which was dubbed entirely in English by English voice actors residing in South Korea. The [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/events/988/Phantom-Thief-and-Detective?page=1 Phantom Thief and Detective event]] got a similar treatment, and it also marks the first time the male Slayer has been shown speaking in English since the Nexon NA days.
36** A weird case with ''DFO Global'': Events imported into this particular version of the game from the Chinese version are, strangely, left dubbed in Chinese. The only known exception is the [[https://www.dfoneople.com/news/events/766/The-Legend-of-Camelot Legend of Camelot event]], which had parts of it return as permanent content and given a Korean dub to replace the Chinese one.
37** The [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} MIKUMIKU avatar package]] came with SuperDeformed versions of the Vocaloid characters that solely spoke in Japanese. While there ''are'' Vocaloid software packages available for other languages (including in English), the characters associated with the Japanese version of Vocaloid are the most popular of the bunch.
38* NoExportForYou: The game has gone back and forth on this over the years; for quite some time, the game was unavailable outside of specifically supported regions, and Nexon's US version eventually shut down. The western version was revived with the "Global" banner indicating that it is available to play for all regions outside of those that already have a version of ''DFO'' in their country, but due to the jump to Metastasis early in ''Global''[='=]s lifespan, the pre-Metastasis version of Female Slayer was never brought to ''Global''.
39* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: The AI-controlled Dungeon Fighters in the Tower of Anguish are all based off of actual players in the Korean version, chosen through an in-game event. The players' names and avatars are retained.
40* ReferencedBy:
41** In ''VideoGame/Disgaea5AllianceOfVengeance'', one of [[VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice Almaz]]'s new skills is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akISyJ9UDek&t=75s an almost direct copy]] of the Weapon Master's 1st Awakening skill, with a little extra dramatic flair at the end.
42** One of the BlandNameProduct games pivotal to the plot of ''Literature/TheKingsAvatar'', an MMO named ''Glory'', is the source of many a ''DFO'' ShoutOut.
43* ScrewedByTheLawyers:
44** [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/d6ou9a/confirmations_on_the_september_19th_exstream/ A developer stream]] confirmed that the reason why the ''Literature/REZero'' avatar package had so many RandomNumberGod features implemented into it (in stark contrast to the [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} MIKUMIKU package]]) was because of [[MoneyDearBoy contractual and licensing fees]].
45** Shortly after the level 100 cap released, the official Twitch team was repeatedly asked why ''Global'' hasn't gotten the DummiedOut ''Literature/FateZero'' and ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' collab avatars yet. Once again, the issue was licensing fees, and this time around the ''Global'' team couldn't afford them. MJ lamented that these collabs probably would've been doable a few years ago when both properties were less popular.
46* [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the Publisher]]:
47** It was after a certain point left to rot by Nexon NA, creating a lag in content updates and hackers running rampant, leading to the game's closure in North America. The cause is implied to be not making as much money as other games. In contrast in Korea it's one of the top 10 games consistently and of the sub-genre it popularized here, considered the best.
48** The Taiwanese version suffered the same fate but with Garena handling it, reminding people of what happened with Nexon NA
49** [[NetworkToTheRescue Developers to the Rescue]] / {{Uncanceled}}: [=NeoPle=], the developers of the game, decided to publish the game themselves, without the involvement of Nexon NA, with an Alpha Test starting May 15, 2014 and the game being finally released at the end of March 2015.
50* TrollingCreator: DFO Global's admins have been known to log in occasionally and mess around with players in global chat. For instance, giving a random channel number [[UrbanLegendOfZelda that's ostensibly lucky for hell mode]].
51* WhatCouldHaveBeen
52** Early concept art for the Female Slayer [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/de366b8e416344dd1583b901a0745caa/tumblr_npr00z29wy1tuy4w7o1_1280.jpg portrayed her as having a ghost arm like the Male Slayer]], instead of having an otherwise normal arm whose energies are sealed by a small stone.
53** Likewise, [[http://i.imgur.com/6NLyE0x.jpg Early]] [[http://i.imgur.com/G9qhLPY.jpg concept]] [[http://i.imgur.com/F5FPZVO.jpg art]] for the Knight notably lacks the {{Fanservice}} of the current incarnation, instead sporting an overall more regal appearance.
54*** Her Dragon Knight and Lightbringer subclasses had [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/3l0o34/this_is_what_the_other_2_knight_subclasses_look/ different art]] in the announcement poster than what's currently being used.
55** The female priest's [[http://wiki.dfo-world.com/images/f/fe/Female_Priest_Original_Concept.jpg early design had a much more bubbly appearance]] than her current design.
56** Director's notes over the years talk about various [[AntiFrustrationFeatures quality-of-life changes]] for the game that never saw the light of day:
57*** A raid was planned for the Empyrean Kartel, which was deliberately going to be easier than Anton to ease newer players into learning raid-like mechanics. The closest the actual game has ever gotten to this (in any version) was tutorials that only stuck around for raid-specific events.
58*** Sometime in 2018, there were plans announced to introduce a "rune" system for specific skills (think ''VideoGame/DiabloII'') that changed their mechanics/damage/hitboxes/etc. to keep Chronicle set effects around after the planned removal of said sets. It took the DNF team an entire year and the sacking of at least one director to put out [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/chh6ra/hitman_can_finally_summon_his_men_o/ something resembling a tech demo]] for this concept in August 2019, with the real thing finally coming out later that month.
59*** Level 95 craft Epics were planned at one point, but overall changes to level 95 gearing that made getting Epics in general vastly easier to do eventually made the concept obsolete.
60** ''Global'' was supposed to get "Accelerated Leveling" as a permanent feature (minus the free gear) like the Korean version did, rather than a semi-recurring event as it currently is in ''Global'', but it was unceremoniously buried in a minor Twitch announcement, stating that the feature was axed in the Korean version due to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings bot owners taking advantage of the feature to make more farming characters]].
61** [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/gpjunh/til_sirocco_and_the_100_cap_story_line_were/ A Chinese fan video]] (rough translations in the comments) revealed that pretty much everything storyline-related in the level 100 cap was slated to be released as early as ''2008'' (almost an entire decade prior to 100 cap in Korea), but this was swept under the rug when Nexon acquired Neople around that time period. Anton was also supposed to be a regular dungeon before Nexon higher-ups suggested turning it into a raid.
62** During [=WinterFes=] 2021, it was revealed that, among other quality-of-life, a system to obsolete and replace the existing Talisman/Rune system was also planned, but due to running short on time and resources it had to be discarded and at the moment they are only touching Talismans/Runes by adding tradeable items.
63** [[https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W5HGt1l8M_k/YIuRwYRJkXI/AAAAAAAAPRg/OBFmB3IfsAQmAEVlpKV7YNgFY7do30AYACLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/KDnF%2B15th%2BAnniversary%2BArtbook%2B179.jpg Early Spectre concept art]] from the [=KDnF=] 15th Anniversary Art Book implied that she was supposed to have [[CanineCompanion a doberman]] accompanying her in combat, wearing a [[ScarfOfAsskicking distinctive red scarf]]. She was also originally designed with a rougher appearance, having a messy ponytail, wearing a {{Sarashi}}, wearing [[EyepatchOfPower an eyepatch]] over her right eye, and generally looking less refined than her current design. Both of these things were kept around as a DevelopmentGag for events related to her, with her old design being a free pre-release avatar set and the doberman being reworked into a paid RewardsPass creature that specifically syngerizes with the Spectre class (said item also reveals that the dog's name is "Edge").
64** The aforementioned art book also had [[https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wbCA-nrb6tc/YIuR0ubt5CI/AAAAAAAAPSA/tFxylpCaJ7chsvuE1vUTYbZKBQRCuOrJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/KDnF%2B15th%2BAnniversary%2BArtbook%2B187.jpg concept art of a female Monk]], an idea that never made it into ''DFO'' proper, only seeing the light of day with the first ''Project BBQ'' trailer.
65** The Incubating Booster Package has [[https://www.reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/t2i2n4/can_someone_explain_why_the_incubating_booster/ what appears to be]] a ''Manga/FairyTail''-related item icon (specifically, the insignia of the eponymous Fairy Tail guild), suggesting that porting the crossover to ''DFO Global'' might have been plausible enough in the past to not completely delete these assets.

Top