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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:The Mad King, throughout Season 2, full stop. Everything that's happened throughout the season was to his advantage.]]
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* HeReallyCanAct: Ryan Haywood's voice-acting roles have mainly been limited to amusing LargeHam characters, but The Madness of the King shows that he can be deadly serious.

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* HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Ryan Haywood's voice-acting roles have mainly been limited to amusing LargeHam characters, but The Madness of the King shows that he can be deadly serious.

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** Mogar being shipped with [[WebAnimation/CampCamp David]] is even worse as the shows don't exist in the same universe as far as we can tell.



* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:The Mad King]], in-universe, calls X-Ray and Vav idiots for spending all of their time whining and complaining about their problems instead of actually being heroes.

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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The Mad King]], in-universe, calls X-Ray and Vav idiots for spending all of their time whining and complaining about their problems instead of actually being heroes.
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* ArcFatigue: Averted, while it is only four episodes long, the people who like the show are happy with what they got for the first season.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: What the show is ultimately remembered as.
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* BaseBreaker:
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* CrackShip: Mogar and Vav are shipped due to the fact that their VA's have a rather infamous bromance going on with each other. In-universe however there is little to no reason for it to be shipped.

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* CrackShip: Mogar and Vav are shipped due to the fact that because their VA's have a rather infamous bromance going on with each other. In-universe however there is little to no reason for it to be shipped.



* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:The Mad King]], in-universe, calls X-Ray and Vav this due to the fact that they spent all of their time whining and complaining about their problems instead of actually being heroes.

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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:The Mad King]], in-universe, calls X-Ray and Vav this due to the fact that they spent idiots for spending all of their time whining and complaining about their problems instead of actually being heroes.
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** [[spoiler: The Mad King]] himself falls into this as his entire plan in season 2 relied almost exclusively on X-Ray and Vav staying antagonistic towards each other despite the fact that he was previously defeated by the PowerOfFriendship.
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* HypeBacklash: When it was announced that Rooster Teeth was making a new animated series in the super hero genre, some fans were expecting something similar to RWBY with superheroes. They were less than pleased when trailers and more info came out that revealed what the actual tone of the series would be.
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there are people who ship Hilda and Mogar. Though they've shared a scene in Episode 6 of Season 2, they have yet to say a word to one another.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there are people who ship Hilda and Mogar. Though they've shared a scene in Episode 6 of Season 2, they have yet but it took until the season finale for them to say a word speak to one another.each other at all.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Oh, my god, the people just ''cheering'' for [[spoiler:The Mad King]] here!

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Oh, my god, the Many people just ''cheering'' root for [[spoiler:The Mad King]] here!in Season 2, in part due to how the heroes act.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:The Mad King, who is able to coerce X-Ray and Vav into distrusting each other through manipulation, then convinces Mogar to free him!]]

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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:The Mad King, who is able throughout Season 2, full stop. Everything that's happened throughout the season was to coerce X-Ray and Vav into distrusting each other through manipulation, then convinces Mogar to free him!]] his advantage.]]


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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:The Mad King]], in-universe, calls X-Ray and Vav this due to the fact that they spent all of their time whining and complaining about their problems instead of actually being heroes.
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* TheUnTwist: There were actually many fans who guessed that Mogar's mother was a cow and that the Mad King was holding her hostage.

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* TheUnTwist: There were actually many fans who guessed that Mogar's mother was [[spoiler: is a cow and that the Mad King was holding her hostage.]]
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* CrackShip: Mogar and Vav are shipped due to the fact that their VA's have a rather infamous bromance going on with each other. In-universe however there is little to no reason for it to be shipped.


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* ShipToShipCombat: Started almost immediately. At first there was the X-Ray/Vav ship and the Hilda/X-Ray ship butting heads. Then Ash and Mogar were introduced bringing about the existence of the Vav/Ash Mogar/Vav, and Mogar/Hilda ships. There's also two [[OneTrueThreesome trio-ships]], X-Ray/Hilda/Vav and Mogar/Hilda/Vav. That's not even getting into the fact that people ship [[MindGameShip X-Ray with The Mad King of all people.]]


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* TheUnTwist: There were actually many fans who guessed that Mogar's mother was a cow and that the Mad King was holding her hostage.
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there a people who ship Hilda and Mogar. Though they've shared a scene in Episode 6 of Season 2, they have yet to say a word to one another.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there a are people who ship Hilda and Mogar. Though they've shared a scene in Episode 6 of Season 2, they have yet to say a word to one another.
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** The SadisticChoice in "The Anti-Vav Ray". [[spoiler:The big contention people have with it is why Vav didn't just go ahead and use the Slo-Mo Hands anyway despite being called a cheater by Mogar. Some think that Mogar's calling him out for using powers when the Slo-Mo Hands are obviously gadgets. Others think, probably the intended way, that he knows they're gizmos and he's trying to get him to prove he's better.]]
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Oh, my god, the people just ''cheering'' for [[spoiler:The Mad King]] here!
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there a people who ship Hilda and Mogar. As of yet (S2 Ep4) they haven't met yet.
* UncannyValley: Wheras the rest of the characters have simple, cartoonish eyes, [[NonStandardCharacterDesign The Mad King's eyes are very detailed.]] The effect is rather disturbing.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there a people who ship Hilda and Mogar. As Though they've shared a scene in Episode 6 of yet (S2 Ep4) Season 2, they haven't met yet.
have yet to say a word to one another.
* UncannyValley: Wheras the rest of the characters have simple, cartoonish eyes, [[NonStandardCharacterDesign The Mad King's eyes are very detailed.]] The effect is rather disturbing.disturbing, [[InvokedTrope which is likely on purpose]].

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* HoYay: PlayedForLaughs in "Enter the Dragonfic", which was no doubt a reference to Rooster Teeth's hyper awareness over the Yaoi fanbase GavinFree (Vav) has garnered over the years thanks to his various [[HeterosexualLifePartners bromances]] with his co-workers. Meanwhile outside of that episode there is the fact that X-Ray and Vav's transformation sequence seems to be caused by them slamming their pelvic areas together, and X-Ray's angry "Why don't you start a fan-club for the guy!" in S2 E1 came off as this [[ShippingGoggles to some people.]]

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* HoYay: PlayedForLaughs in "Enter the Dragonfic", which was no doubt a reference to Rooster Teeth's hyper awareness over the Yaoi fanbase GavinFree (Vav) has garnered over the years thanks to his various [[HeterosexualLifePartners bromances]] with his co-workers. Meanwhile
** Take into consideration that when the two characters were nothing more than an on going joke in let's plays they were often portrayed as being AmbiguouslyGay for each other (you know, [[PlayedForLaughs for shits and giggles]].) It's really no wonder that once they got their own show that this would stay. Seriously, there's plenty of it
outside of that episode there is the fact that X-Ray and Vav's PlayedForLaughs moments above. For one, our heroes transformation sequence seems to be caused by (which has only been seen once so far) involves them slamming their pelvic areas together, and together. The two also notably have attempted to do this out of sheer excitement for a situation at several points, only to be stopped mid bump. Then of course there's X-Ray's angry "Why don't you start clingy-ness towards Vav. While at least some of it can chalked up as part of his HiddenDepths (you know, [[spoiler: what with his massive abandonment issues]] and all that) some of his dialogue comes off more like a fan-club for [[ClingyJealousGirl a jealous girlfriend.]] To add even more to it, after being broken from the guy!" [[spoiler: books mind control]] in S2 E1 came off as "Enter the Dragonfic" he delivers this [[ShippingGoggles wonderfully AmbiguouslyBi line.
--->'''X-Ray:''' ''[To Vav after they're almost forced
to some people.]]kiss]'' Yeah, I am way out of your league!
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* HeReallyCanAct: Ryan Haywood's voice-acting roles have mainly been limited to amusing LargeHam characters, but The Madness of the King shows that he can be deadly serious.
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* UncannyValley: Wheras the rest of the characters have simple, cartoonish eyes, [[NonStandardCharacterDesign The Mad King's eyes are very detailed.]] The effect is rather disturbing.
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* JerkassWoobie: X-Ray as of S2 E5.



* JerkassWoobie: X-Ray as of S2 E5.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The jokes about X-Ray's dad not being around were expected given his InkSuitActor jokingly started the gag himself as a form of SelfDeprecation during Let's Plays. In-Universe however the jokes become cringe worthy once we find out that X-Ray [[spoiler: has major abandonment issues stemming from his dad leaving him and his mom when he was very young, and can be easily manipulated because it.]] This makes moments like the [[spoiler: Corpirate]] pulling a (false) LukeIAmYourFather on him as a gag become this. Seeing X-Ray get excited and hopeful (and by god the look on his face!) for a few second, even despite the fact his so called "father" is about to kill him (which just makes it worse), only for the [[spoiler: Corpirate]] to shut him down and call him stupid for believing it. The look on X-Ray's face while [[spoiler: Corpirate]] laughs is just heartbreaking. And to think that this was just a 16-second long gag!
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*JerkassWoobie: X-Ray as of S2 E5.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:The Mad King, who is able to coerce X-Ray and Vav into distrusting each other through manipulation, then convinces Mogar to free him!]]
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* HoYay: PlayedForLaughs in "Enter the Dragonfic", which was no doubt a reference to Rooster Teeth's hyper awareness over the Yaoi fanbase GavinFree (Vav) has garnered over the years thanks to his various [[HeterosexualLifePartners bromances]] with his co-workers. Meanwhile outside of that episode there is the fact that X-Ray and Vav's transformation sequence seems to be caused by them slamming their pelvic areas together, and X-Ray's angry "Why don't you start a fan-club for the guy!" in S2 E1 came off as this [[ShippingGoggles to some people.]]
* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Since their [[RelationshipVoiceActor VAs are married in real life]] there a people who ship Hilda and Mogar. As of yet (S2 Ep4) they haven't met yet.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency?: Some people feel that Adam would have made a better [[spoiler: Corpirate]] than Geoff.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The first episode of Season 2 has gotten this response so far.
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency?: Some people feel that Adam would have made a better [[spoiler: Corpirate]] than Geoff.Geoff.
** Though Geoff was the original version of the character in WWE, so it does seem like the natural choice.
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** The fact that a lot of the comedy is inside jokes that you would need to see various other Rooster Teeth/Achievement Hunter shows to know. So think that it's nice, some people don't.

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** The fact that a lot of the comedy is inside jokes that you would need to see various other Rooster Teeth/Achievement Hunter shows to know. So Some think that it's nice, some people don't.
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*ArcFatigue: Averted, while it is only four episodes long, the people who like the show are happy with what they got for the first season.
*BrokenBase: Some people find the comedy and style of the show to be very entertaining and want more of it, others hate it and think that Rooster Teeth should stop making the show.
** The fact that a lot of the comedy is inside jokes that you would need to see various other Rooster Teeth/Achievement Hunter shows to know. So think that it's nice, some people don't.
*WhatTheHellCastingAgency?: Some people feel that Adam would have made a better [[spoiler: Corpirate]] than Geoff.

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