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**Bernard Loredo from the second game. [[spoiler: As if it's not worse enough that he provoked a pogrom against the non-humans in Flotsam, he also captured an elven woman and raped her. While most people think that she was killed by monsters, she’s still alive and imprisoned in Loredo’s mansion. And pregnant...]]
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** [[spoiler:Henselt]] doesn't seem so bad when you first meet him. Then there's what happens to [[spoiler:the Blue Stripes]] in the Roche path, and ''especially'' [[spoiler:Ves]].
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* UglyCute: I can't be the only one who wanted to give the troll from the "Troll Trouble" DLC a big hug. Besides the random hostile ones, every troll in the second game is absolutely adorable.
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* UglyCute: I can't be the only one who wanted Many people want to give the troll from the "Troll Trouble" DLC a big hug. Besides the random hostile ones, every troll in the second game is absolutely adorable.
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* UglyCute: I can't be the only one who wanted to give the troll from the "Troll Trouble" DLC a big hug. Besides the random hostile ones, every troll in the second game is absolutely adorable.
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*** WordOfGod doesn't say that the games are not canonical. They are ''AlternateUniverse'', which is a different thing. Also, Sapkowski had some input into the games, as the writers consulted with him about plot and characters.
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* FanDumb: Some players have complained about the second game's moral options, claiming that the game only has evil choices, and that most of Geralt's potential allies are villains. The concept of moral ambiguity goes right over some people's heads, it seems.
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* FanDisservice: There's an OptionalSexualEncounter in the second game. A nice romantic bath with soft lighting and lots of roses all around, a gorgeous girl, a really cool stripping scene... followed immediately, just so you don't get ''too'' excited, by a close-up shot of a corpse with flies buzzing around it.
* FanDumb: Some players have complained about the second game's moral options, claiming that the game only has evil choices, and that most of Geralt's potential allies are villains. The concept of moral ambiguity goes right over some people's heads, it seems.
* FanDumb: Some players have complained about the second game's moral options, claiming that the game only has evil choices, and that most of Geralt's potential allies are villains. The concept of moral ambiguity goes right over some people's heads, it seems.
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** The "subpar voice acting" point is also liable to ignite a SubbingVersusDubbing {{flame war}} when someone points out that it can be avoided by playing in the original Polish with subtitles.
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: From the second game, at the end of both paths, [[spoiler: if Geralt chose to save Triss from Nilifgaard's compound.]] He storms the place all on his own, and when his hostage, [[spoiler: Shilard Fitz-Oesterlen, the Niilifgaard Ambassador]] gets shot and killed by his own, and Geralt is faced by the very elite of Imperial soldiers, he gives us this one very awesome line.
-->'''Geralt''': And now, you will all have to die.
* CrowningMomentofFunny: Several. Usually any longer conversation with Zoltan leads to it.
** As Roche starts his interrogation of a shackled Geralt, he offers his hand to shake. The "very funny" dialogue option leads to...
-->'''Geralt''': [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck off.]]
** Talking to the noble and priest in the prologue of Assassins of Kings, Geralt can sock the noble in the stomach. Roche quips that the priest living and the noble getting slapped is win/win.
** Upon reaching Flotsam in Assassins of Kings, go talk to Triss in the tavern. Asking her how she's been yields a DeadpanSnarker list of what it's been like stuck on the ship with the rest of the crew.
-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
** One in the beginning of chapter 2 (Ivoreth's path) and related to the main plot, [[spoiler: the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
** Another one in Vergen, when Geralt talked to a vendor in the market place
-->'''Spark''': Uh, so what does a witcher do, anyway?\\
'''Geralt:''' We solve problems.\\
'''Spark:''' Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.\\
'''Geralt:''' Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
-->'''Geralt''': And now, you will all have to die.
* CrowningMomentofFunny: Several. Usually any longer conversation with Zoltan leads to it.
** As Roche starts his interrogation of a shackled Geralt, he offers his hand to shake. The "very funny" dialogue option leads to...
-->'''Geralt''': [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck off.]]
** Talking to the noble and priest in the prologue of Assassins of Kings, Geralt can sock the noble in the stomach. Roche quips that the priest living and the noble getting slapped is win/win.
** Upon reaching Flotsam in Assassins of Kings, go talk to Triss in the tavern. Asking her how she's been yields a DeadpanSnarker list of what it's been like stuck on the ship with the rest of the crew.
-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
** One in the beginning of chapter 2 (Ivoreth's path) and related to the main plot, [[spoiler: the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
** Another one in Vergen, when Geralt talked to a vendor in the market place
-->'''Spark''': Uh, so what does a witcher do, anyway?\\
'''Geralt:''' We solve problems.\\
'''Spark:''' Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.\\
'''Geralt:''' Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
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** In the second - bombs. You can make a load of them and just chuck them out like candies. Works especially well on bosses, better even if you brought the skill that multiplies the damage dealt by 100%. And the fact they just need two most common alchemy ingredients makes it all easier.
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Spark: Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.\\
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Geralt: We solve problems.\\
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* RealPolitik: You either wiev Nilfgaard as TheEmpire or as this - they have done some horrifying things, but show me a country in RealLife that does not have few skeletons in it's closet.
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* RealPolitik: You either wiev view Nilfgaard as TheEmpire or as this - they have done some horrifying things, but show me a country in RealLife that does not have few skeletons in it's closet.
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Dwarf: Humans have always hated dwarves and elves.\\
Geralt: I don't understand.\\
Dwarf: Then go see that bastard Brogg. I won't discuss it with strangers.\\
Geralt: Understandable.
Dwarf: Humans have always hated dwarves and elves.\\
Geralt: I don't understand.\\
Dwarf: Then go see that bastard Brogg. I won't discuss it with strangers.\\
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Dwarf: Why do pricks go in cunts? It's the natural order of things. Humans have always hated dwarves and elves. Not for me to know why.\\
Geralt: I'm not sure I understand.\\
Dwarf: Then ponder it on your own. Or discuss it with that maggot Brogg. I don't talk to strangers about these things.\\
Geralt: Fine.
Dwarf: Why do pricks go in cunts? It's the natural order of things. Humans have always hated dwarves and elves. Not for me to know why.\\
Geralt: I'm not sure I understand.\\
Dwarf: Then ponder it on your own. Or discuss it with that maggot Brogg. I don't talk to strangers about these things.\\
Geralt: Fine.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler: Letho]] in second game shows shades of it. He doesn't look like a type to be one though.
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* RealPolitik: You either wiev Nilfgaard as TheEmpire or as this - they have done some horrifying things, but show me a country in RealLife that does not have few skeletons in it's closet.
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** Nerfed in the second game, but Aard and Quen (and even Axii to a point) can easily reach this level.
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: From the second game, at the end of Iorveth's path, [[spoiler: if Geralt chose to save Triss from Nilifgaard's compound.]] He storms the place all on his own, and when his hostage, [[spoiler: Shilard Fitz-Oesterlen, the Niilifgaard Ambassador]] gets shot and killed by his own, and Geralt is faced by the very elite of Imperial soldiers, he gives us this one very awesome line.
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: From the second game, at the end of Iorveth's path, both paths, [[spoiler: if Geralt chose to save Triss from Nilifgaard's compound.]] He storms the place all on his own, and when his hostage, [[spoiler: Shilard Fitz-Oesterlen, the Niilifgaard Ambassador]] gets shot and killed by his own, and Geralt is faced by the very elite of Imperial soldiers, he gives us this one very awesome line.
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** In the Chapter 2, if you take Ivoreth's path, [[spoiler: the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
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** In One in the Chapter 2, if you take Ivoreth's path, beginning of chapter 2 (Ivoreth's path) and related to the main plot, [[spoiler: the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
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** In the Chapter 2, if you take Ivoreth's path, the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. **Big spoilers** [[spoiler: She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
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** In the Chapter 2, if you take Ivoreth's path, [[spoiler: the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. **Big spoilers** [[spoiler: power. She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
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Geralt: We solve problems.
Spark: Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.
Geralt: Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
Geralt: We solve problems.
Spark: Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.
Geralt: Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
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anyway?\\
Geralt: We solveproblems.
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Spark: Oh, I have a problem with myboyfriend.
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Geralt: Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem wesolve.
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** In the Chapter 2, if you take Ivoreth's path, the sorceress Phillipa needs an artifact with ungodly amount of power. **Big spoilers** [[spoiler: She suggested one of the legendary Twenty Rings of Power, leading to Ivoreth quoting from the famous ring verse "...and One to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"]].
** Another one in Vergen, when Geralt talked to a vendor in the market place
--->Spark: Uh, so what does a witcher do, anyway?
Geralt: We solve problems.
Spark: Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.
Geralt: Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
** Another one in Vergen, when Geralt talked to a vendor in the market place
--->Spark: Uh, so what does a witcher do, anyway?
Geralt: We solve problems.
Spark: Oh, I have a problem with my boyfriend.
Geralt: Did you find his entrails sprawled on the porch and his head a few paces away? Because those are the types of problem we solve.
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-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
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-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
* FanDumb: Some players have complained about the second game's moral options, claiming that the game only has evil choices, and that most of Geralt's potential allies are villains. The concept of moral ambiguity goes right over some people's heads, it seems.
* FanDumb: Some players have complained about the second game's moral options, claiming that the game only has evil choices, and that most of Geralt's potential allies are villains. The concept of moral ambiguity goes right over some people's heads, it seems.
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*** Still, it got considerably more flack for it in the US. Europe just thought it was silly.
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*** Still, it got considerably more flack for it in the US. Europe just thought it was silly.
** The sequel has inspired renewed conflict between PC and console gamers, and its difficulty spike has resulted in a few bad reviews.
** The sequel has inspired renewed conflict between PC and console gamers, and its difficulty spike has resulted in a few bad reviews.
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**Bernard Loredo from the second game. [[spoiler: As if it's not worse enough that he provoked a pogrom against the non-humans in Flotsam, he also captured an elven woman and raped her. While most people think that she was killed by monsters, she’s still alive and imprisoned in Loredo’s mansion. And pregnant...]]
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: From the second game, at the end of Iorveth's path, [[spoiler: if Geralt chose to save Triss from Nilifgaard's compound.]] He storms the place all on his own, and when his hostage, [[spoiler: Shilard Fitz-Oesterlen, the Niilifgaard Ambassador]] gets shot and killed by his own, and Geralt is faced by the very elite of Imperial soldiers, he gives us this one very awesome line.
-->'''Geralt''': And now, you will all have to die.
-->'''Geralt''': And now, you will all have to die.
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* GuideDangIt: [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/5/25/ according to]] ''PennyArcade''.
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* CompleteMonster: ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]]
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* CompleteMonster: ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]] ]]
** [[HumansAreBastards "Both are for monsters."]]
** [[HumansAreBastards "Both are for monsters."]]
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* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Geralt]] in the books. HeGotBetter in the VideoGame, obviously.
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* TooCoolToLive: TooCoolToLive:
** [[spoiler:Geralt]] in the books. HeGotBetter in the VideoGame,obviously.obviously.
** [[spoiler: King Foltest. Then again, the title of the sequel is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Assassins of Kings.]]]]
** [[spoiler:Geralt]] in the books. HeGotBetter in the VideoGame,
** [[spoiler: King Foltest. Then again, the title of the sequel is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Assassins of Kings.]]]]
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* CompleteMonster - ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]]
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* CompleteMonster - CompleteMonster: ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]]
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* AdaptationDisplacement: As evidenced by the main page, the video game is considerably better known than any of the other surrounding works. The game being near release when the stories were finally translated into English has a lot to do with it.
* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Not only is the game [=DRM=]-free, but all the DLC (bar expansions and the like) will be free.
* CompleteMonster - ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]]
* ContinuityPorn: More often and gratuitous than the standard porn, with many references to the novels thrown in for no other reason than to please the fans.
** On the other hand, the game is perfectly playable by those who don't know original material and according to WordofGod, the game is definitely not canonical.
* CrowningMomentofFunny: Several. Usually any longer conversation with Zoltan leads to it.
** As Roche starts his interrogation of a shackled Geralt, he offers his hand to shake. The "very funny" dialogue option leads to...
-->'''Geralt''': [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck off.]]
** Talking to the noble and priest in the prologue of Assassins of Kings, Geralt can sock the noble in the stomach. Roche quips that the priest living and the noble getting slapped is win/win.
** Upon reaching Flotsam in Assassins of Kings, go talk to Triss in the tavern. Asking her how she's been yields a DeadpanSnarker list of what it's been like stuck on the ship with the rest of the crew.
-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
* GameBreaker: The Igni Sign - boost it as much as you can, as soon as you can, and you'll be able to waltz through the second half of the game without bothering to even ''unsheathe your sword'': enemies (bosses included) will drop dead like flies.
* HarsherInHindsight: The main choice of the game becomes harder (or easier) if you've read 'The Lesser Evil' in ''The Last Wish''.
* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Not only is the game [=DRM=]-free, but all the DLC (bar expansions and the like) will be free.
* CompleteMonster - ''That sword is for monsters'' indeed. [[spoiler:And just about everyone else in Salamandra.]]
* ContinuityPorn: More often and gratuitous than the standard porn, with many references to the novels thrown in for no other reason than to please the fans.
** On the other hand, the game is perfectly playable by those who don't know original material and according to WordofGod, the game is definitely not canonical.
* CrowningMomentofFunny: Several. Usually any longer conversation with Zoltan leads to it.
** As Roche starts his interrogation of a shackled Geralt, he offers his hand to shake. The "very funny" dialogue option leads to...
-->'''Geralt''': [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck off.]]
** Talking to the noble and priest in the prologue of Assassins of Kings, Geralt can sock the noble in the stomach. Roche quips that the priest living and the noble getting slapped is win/win.
** Upon reaching Flotsam in Assassins of Kings, go talk to Triss in the tavern. Asking her how she's been yields a DeadpanSnarker list of what it's been like stuck on the ship with the rest of the crew.
-->'''Triss''': I can burp the Nilfgaardian emperor's title without reaching for a beer and I've discovered that Shorty's name has nothing to do with his manhood.
* GameBreaker: The Igni Sign - boost it as much as you can, as soon as you can, and you'll be able to waltz through the second half of the game without bothering to even ''unsheathe your sword'': enemies (bosses included) will drop dead like flies.
* HarsherInHindsight: The main choice of the game becomes harder (or easier) if you've read 'The Lesser Evil' in ''The Last Wish''.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Not only is TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Geralt]] in the books. HeGotBetter in the VideoGame, obviously.
* {{Woolseyism}}: The re-released Enhanced Edition of the game. The original version of the dialogue scripts wast cut down by 20% through ExecutiveMeddling just to save money on voice acting for a rather risky project due to how niche it was deemed to be. The end result, while workable, sounded pretty awkward. The Enhanced Edition which came later as both a retail re-release and a free to download patch, features a mostly re-recorded script with no cuts applied to the source material to make it sound more natural and make the English version of the game[=DRM=]-free, but all just as complete dialogue-wise as the DLC (bar expansions Polish original was. Here's example of the changes made:
** Original:
--->Geralt: Why do locals persecute nonhumans?\\
Dwarf: Humans have always hated dwarves and elves.\\
Geralt: I don't understand.\\
Dwarf: Then go see that bastard Brogg. I won't discuss it with strangers.\\
Geralt: Understandable.
** Enhanced:
--->Geralt: Why do thelike) will be free.locals persecute nonhumans?\\
Dwarf: Why do pricks go in cunts? It's the natural order of things. Humans have always hated dwarves and elves. Not for me to know why.\\
Geralt: I'm not sure I understand.\\
Dwarf: Then ponder it on your own. Or discuss it with that maggot Brogg. I don't talk to strangers about these things.\\
Geralt: Fine.
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** Original:
--->Geralt: Why do locals persecute nonhumans?\\
Dwarf: Humans have always hated dwarves and elves.\\
Geralt: I don't understand.\\
Dwarf: Then go see that bastard Brogg. I won't discuss it with strangers.\\
Geralt: Understandable.
** Enhanced:
--->Geralt: Why do the
Dwarf: Why do pricks go in cunts? It's the natural order of things. Humans have always hated dwarves and elves. Not for me to know why.\\
Geralt: I'm not sure I understand.\\
Dwarf: Then ponder it on your own. Or discuss it with that maggot Brogg. I don't talk to strangers about these things.\\
Geralt: Fine.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Not only is the game [=DRM=]-free, but all the DLC (bar expansions and the like) will be free.
