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* BlackComedy: The Constructicons making a speech about having a message of peace to the humans... and then start laughing before they start firing.
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* BlackComedy: The Constructicons making a speech about having a message of peace to the humans... and then start laughing before they start firing.
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* HilariousInHindsight: When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
** When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
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* MemeticMutation: The solicitation for issue 15 claimed the issue would show why Perceptor "rejected science and took up snipering", the odd choice of word (the proper term is "sniping") led to a running gag in the fandom that Perceptor was not a sniper, but a sniperer, culminating in [[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/SeansComic.jpg this hilarious fancomic]] that explains it all.
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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** The solicitation for issue 15 claimed the issue would show why Perceptor "rejected science and took up snipering", the odd choice of word (the proper term is "sniping") led to a running gag in the fandom that Perceptor was not a sniper, but a sniperer, culminating in [[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/SeansComic.jpg this hilarious fancomic]] that explains it all.
** The solicitation for issue 15 claimed the issue would show why Perceptor "rejected science and took up snipering", the odd choice of word (the proper term is "sniping") led to a running gag in the fandom that Perceptor was not a sniper, but a sniperer, culminating in [[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/SeansComic.jpg this hilarious fancomic]] that explains it all.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This event resulted in Simon Furman's GrandFinale to his ''Transformers'' epic never seeing the light of day. Many fans feel that said finale would have been much more enjoyable than this. Of course this isn't universal; see BrokenBase above.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** This event resulted in Simon Furman's GrandFinale to his ''Transformers'' epic never seeing the light of day. Many fans feel that said finale would have been much more enjoyable than this. Of course this isn't universal; see BrokenBase above.
** This event resulted in Simon Furman's GrandFinale to his ''Transformers'' epic never seeing the light of day. Many fans feel that said finale would have been much more enjoyable than this. Of course this isn't universal; see BrokenBase above.
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* AssPull: That Mirage is the suspected mole. Basically, unless you watched the 1985 cartoon episode ''Traitor'', you'd get it's a reference to that plotline, otherwise there is no setup or foreshadowing at all as to why he would be suspected.
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MEH requires the character be considered irredeemable In Universe. While Megatron's redemption In Universe via MTMTE is contentious, it's clear he did redeem himself after joining Team Rodimus and adventuring with them.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Megatron crossed it [[spoiler: what he had Bombshell do to Hunter.]]
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** Ironhide punches everyone! [[note]]Explanation: Ironhide punches a ''lot'' of people in the story. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet fell in love with this and made it a minor RunningGag.[[/note]]
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** Ironhide punches everyone! [[note]]Explanation: Ironhide punches a ''lot'' of people in the story. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet Website/TFWikiDotNet fell in love with this and made it a minor RunningGag.[[/note]]
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Up to Eleven is now defunct
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: There were some complaints about the human characters in the comic, with Spike in particular being somewhat disliked. However it wasn't too much of a problem and Sparkplug gets some great character development in this comic. Come the next ongoing however, and all the problems that the human characters had (being jerks to the Autobots, complaining, getting more screen time than the main characters, etc.) were amped UpToEleven and Spike and Sparkplug were changed into TheScrappy overnight.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: There were some complaints about the human characters in the comic, with Spike in particular being somewhat disliked. However it wasn't too much of a problem and Sparkplug gets some great character development in this comic. Come the next ongoing however, and all the problems that the human characters had (being jerks to the Autobots, complaining, getting more screen time than the main characters, etc.) were amped UpToEleven up to eleven and Spike and Sparkplug were changed into TheScrappy overnight.
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No longer a trope. MEH must be one single moment.
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* HilariousInHindsight / FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
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* HilariousInHindsight / FunnyAneurysmMoment: HilariousInHindsight: When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
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* MoralEventHorizon: The events of this series could be considered one big horizon crossing moment for Megatron, ''especially'' [[spoiler: what he had Bombshell do to Hunter.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: The events of this series could be considered one big horizon crossing moment for Megatron, ''especially'' Megatron crossed it [[spoiler: what he had Bombshell do to Hunter.]]
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Now Flame Bait and Darth.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Hook doesn't know who Frenzy is, despite the two of them being some of the first Decepticons (Rumble and Frenzy are the first to sign up with Megatron). Skywarp chalks this up to Hook being the new guy, despite Hook being a Decepticon longer than him.
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* FanNickname: [[MemeticMutation Perceptor the sniperer]]. Poochie for Drift.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Skywarp claims to have killed ''every single person in Beijing''. Given Beijing's massive population, the short timeframe he claims to have killed them in, and the fact that Skywarp has never been portrayed as so dangerous and skilled, some readers interpret this as Skywarp lying to make himself look cool. Not only would this be completely in-character for Skywarp but he makes this claim to Bombshell, whom he was clearly established as being jealous of.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Skywarp claims to have killed ''every single person in ''half the population of Beijing''. Given Beijing's massive population, the short timeframe he claims to have killed them in, and the fact that Skywarp has never been portrayed as so dangerous and skilled, some readers interpret this as Skywarp lying to make himself look cool. Not only would this be completely in-character for Skywarp but he makes this claim to Bombshell, whom he was clearly established as being jealous of.
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Natter — the sales DID drop and they did pick up. So it's still factually correct.
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** The current editor of Transformers, [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=201851#201851 Andy Schmidt, said]] that the decline in sales over the course of the 'ations wasn't as great as previous editors had hinted at and used to justify the switch, so all the switch to AHM managed to achieve was replacing readers they lost because of the switch to AHM, making their previous readers unhappy in the process.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The series' portrayal of Thundercracker is generally considered one of the best things about it, both for actually using Thundercracker's [[AntiVillain stated character traits]] for the first time ''ever'', but also setting up his development in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise later series.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The series' portrayal of Thundercracker [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Thundercracker]] is generally considered one of the best things about it, both for actually using Thundercracker's [[AntiVillain stated character traits]] for the first time ''ever'', but also setting up his development in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise later series.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The series' portrayal of Thundercracker is generally considered one of the best things about it, both for actually using Thundercracker's [[AntiVillain stated character traits]] for the first time ''ever'', but also setting up his development in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise later series.]]
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%%* JerkassWoobie: Sunstreaker.
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* BrokenBase: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
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* BrokenBase: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's Creator/SimonFurman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
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ZCE and complaining.
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* CreatorsPet: Drift.
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* JerkassWoobie: Sunstreaker.
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* FanNickname: [[MemeticMutation Perceptor the sniperer]]. Poochie for Drift.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter The newly created and hyped up Drift. The fact that Drift was heavily promoted as the Author's own Original Character set off a number of red flags. Many felt Drift was a cliched CreatorsPet with a number of Mary Sue traits and had too much focus as he got his own spotlight and miniseries'. Others felt that, outside of the spotlight and Miniseries', Drift's introduction into AHM was handled with a lot of restraint as he wasn't put on a pedestal at the expense of others and he received a number of self-depreciating knocks against him.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter The newly created and hyped up Drift. The fact that Drift was heavily promoted as the Author's own Original Character set off a number of red flags. Many felt Drift was a cliched CreatorsPet with a number of Mary Sue traits and had too much focus as he got his own spotlight and miniseries'. Others felt that, outside of the spotlight and Miniseries', Drift's introduction into AHM was handled with a lot of restraint as he wasn't put on a pedestal at the expense of others and he received a number of self-depreciating knocks against him.
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* HypeBacklash: Much of the anti-Drift sentiment was in response to the "He's awesome and you're gonna love him" shilling.
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* BaseBreaker: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter The newly created and hyped up Drift. The fact that Drift was heavily promoted as the Author's own Original Character set off a number of red flags. Many felt Drift was a cliched CreatorsPet with a number of Mary Sue traits and had too much focus as he got his own spotlight and miniseries'. Others felt that, outside of the spotlight and Miniseries', Drift's introduction into AHM was handled with a lot of restraint as he wasn't put on a pedestal at the expense of others and he received a number of self-depreciating knocks against him.
* BrokenBase: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
* BrokenBase: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
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** Drift also counts.
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** The whole idea of the Decepticons ruling the Earth is woefully unexplored given the awesome potential there for a terrifying and dramatic story. This is at least partially due to ExecutiveMeddling from Hasbro that prevented Shane McCarthy from showing more scenes of the Decepticons taking over.
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** The whole idea of the Decepticons ruling the Earth is woefully unexplored given the awesome potential there for a terrifying and dramatic story. This is at least partially due to ExecutiveMeddling from Hasbro that prevented Shane McCarthy [=McCarthy=] from showing more scenes of the Decepticons taking over.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Skywarp claims to have killed ''every single person in Beijing''. Given Beijing's massive population, the short timeframe he claims to have killed them in, and the fact that Skywarp has never been portrayed as so dangerous and skilled, some readers interpret this as Skywarp lying to make himself look cool. Not only would this be completely in-character for Skywarp but he makes this claim to Bombshell, whom he was clearly established as being jealous of.
* BaseBreaker: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
** The current editor of Transformers, [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=201851#201851 Andy Schmidt, said]] that the decline in sales over the course of the 'ations wasn't as great as previous editors had hinted at and used to justify the switch, so all the switch to AHM managed to achieve was replacing readers they lost because of the switch to AHM, making their previous readers unhappy in the process.
** Drift also counts.
* CreatorsPet: Drift.
* FanNickname: [[MemeticMutation Perceptor the sniperer]]. Poochie for Drift.
* FranchiseOriginalSin: There were some complaints about the human characters in the comic, with Spike in particular being somewhat disliked. However it wasn't too much of a problem and Sparkplug gets some great character development in this comic. Come the next ongoing however, and all the problems that the human characters had (being jerks to the Autobots, complaining, getting more screen time than the main characters, etc.) were amped UpToEleven and Spike and Sparkplug were changed into TheScrappy overnight.
* HilariousInHindsight / FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
** In a flashback we see that Ironhide doubted Brainstorm would live through the war. Come ''More Than Meets The Eye'' and ''Robots In Disguise'', and not only did Brainstorm survive the war, he was one of the few who lived through it from beginning to end.
* HypeBacklash: Much of the anti-Drift sentiment was in response to the "He's awesome and you're gonna love him" shilling.
* JerkassWoobie: Sunstreaker.
* MemeticMutation: The solicitation for issue 15 claimed the issue would show why Perceptor "rejected science and took up snipering", the odd choice of word (the proper term is "sniping") led to a running gag in the fandom that Perceptor was not a sniper, but a sniperer, culminating in [[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/SeansComic.jpg this hilarious fancomic]] that explains it all.
** Ironhide punches everyone! [[note]]Explanation: Ironhide punches a ''lot'' of people in the story. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet fell in love with this and made it a minor RunningGag.[[/note]]
* MoralEventHorizon: The events of this series could be considered one big horizon crossing moment for Megatron, ''especially'' [[spoiler: what he had Bombshell do to Hunter.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This event resulted in Simon Furman's GrandFinale to his ''Transformers'' epic never seeing the light of day. Many fans feel that said finale would have been much more enjoyable than this. Of course this isn't universal; see BrokenBase above.
** The whole idea of the Decepticons ruling the Earth is woefully unexplored given the awesome potential there for a terrifying and dramatic story. This is at least partially due to ExecutiveMeddling from Hasbro that prevented Shane McCarthy from showing more scenes of the Decepticons taking over.
** Sideswipe [[spoiler: mercy killing Hunter]] had loads of potential for a character arc, but nothing came of it. This isn't really [=McCarthy=]'s fault, since it was later writers who decided to not follow up on this.
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Hunter. No wonder Sideswipe [[MercyKill puts him out of his misery]].]]
* WhatAnIdiot: Hook doesn't know who Frenzy is, despite the two of them being some of the first Decepticons (Rumble and Frenzy are the first to sign up with Megatron). Skywarp chalks this up to Hook being the new guy, despite Hook being a Decepticon longer than him.
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* BaseBreaker: The series itself, which moved away from Simon Furman's ongoing cosmic storyline in the hope that a change in story direction would help stop the trend of continually falling sales. Sales leveled out and stabilized, so from that perspective the series accomplished its goals. However, it quickly became extremely controversial, with some fans very unhappy about dropped plot elements from Simon Furman's run on the book as well as the reversion to older designs for some characters.
** The current editor of Transformers, [[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=201851#201851 Andy Schmidt, said]] that the decline in sales over the course of the 'ations wasn't as great as previous editors had hinted at and used to justify the switch, so all the switch to AHM managed to achieve was replacing readers they lost because of the switch to AHM, making their previous readers unhappy in the process.
** Drift also counts.
* CreatorsPet: Drift.
* FanNickname: [[MemeticMutation Perceptor the sniperer]]. Poochie for Drift.
* FranchiseOriginalSin: There were some complaints about the human characters in the comic, with Spike in particular being somewhat disliked. However it wasn't too much of a problem and Sparkplug gets some great character development in this comic. Come the next ongoing however, and all the problems that the human characters had (being jerks to the Autobots, complaining, getting more screen time than the main characters, etc.) were amped UpToEleven and Spike and Sparkplug were changed into TheScrappy overnight.
* HilariousInHindsight / FunnyAneurysmMoment: When Drift was hyped and during his debut, he was the butt of many [[ShooOutTheNewGuy Poochie]] jokes, including the classic "Whenever Drift isn't on panel, the other characters must ask 'Where's Drift?'". In issue 7, that exact scenario happens. It happens again the next issue, too.
** In a flashback we see that Ironhide doubted Brainstorm would live through the war. Come ''More Than Meets The Eye'' and ''Robots In Disguise'', and not only did Brainstorm survive the war, he was one of the few who lived through it from beginning to end.
* HypeBacklash: Much of the anti-Drift sentiment was in response to the "He's awesome and you're gonna love him" shilling.
* JerkassWoobie: Sunstreaker.
* MemeticMutation: The solicitation for issue 15 claimed the issue would show why Perceptor "rejected science and took up snipering", the odd choice of word (the proper term is "sniping") led to a running gag in the fandom that Perceptor was not a sniper, but a sniperer, culminating in [[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/SeansComic.jpg this hilarious fancomic]] that explains it all.
** Ironhide punches everyone! [[note]]Explanation: Ironhide punches a ''lot'' of people in the story. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet fell in love with this and made it a minor RunningGag.[[/note]]
* MoralEventHorizon: The events of this series could be considered one big horizon crossing moment for Megatron, ''especially'' [[spoiler: what he had Bombshell do to Hunter.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This event resulted in Simon Furman's GrandFinale to his ''Transformers'' epic never seeing the light of day. Many fans feel that said finale would have been much more enjoyable than this. Of course this isn't universal; see BrokenBase above.
** The whole idea of the Decepticons ruling the Earth is woefully unexplored given the awesome potential there for a terrifying and dramatic story. This is at least partially due to ExecutiveMeddling from Hasbro that prevented Shane McCarthy from showing more scenes of the Decepticons taking over.
** Sideswipe [[spoiler: mercy killing Hunter]] had loads of potential for a character arc, but nothing came of it. This isn't really [=McCarthy=]'s fault, since it was later writers who decided to not follow up on this.
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Hunter. No wonder Sideswipe [[MercyKill puts him out of his misery]].]]
* WhatAnIdiot: Hook doesn't know who Frenzy is, despite the two of them being some of the first Decepticons (Rumble and Frenzy are the first to sign up with Megatron). Skywarp chalks this up to Hook being the new guy, despite Hook being a Decepticon longer than him.
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