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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And in the States today, their talent as musicians is appreciated once again.

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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And in the States today, their talent as musicians is they are once again appreciated once again.for the their talent.
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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And in the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.

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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And in the States today, they are generally their talent as musicians is appreciated as talented musicians.once again.
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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.

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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And in the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.
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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]],once the backlash against Disco faded over time, the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.

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*** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]],once However]], once the backlash against Disco [[VindicatedByHistory faded over time, time]], the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.
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** Before the backlash against Disco, the Bee Gees were pretty successful in the States. During their Baroque Pop period, they were able to score a fair amount of American hits such as ''New York Mining Disaster 1941'', ''Massachusetts'', and ''To Love Somebody'' (which charted higher in the US than the UK) to name a few. And during their famous Disco period, they were scoring hit after hit and were considered very talented musicians.
*** Unfortunately, this would become [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], see AmericansHateTingle.
**** [[DoubleSubvertedTrope However]],once the backlash against Disco faded over time, the Bee Gees were re-evaluated. And the States today, they are generally appreciated as talented musicians.
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* CondemnedByHistory: [[AmericansHateTingle In the States at least]], the Bee Gees have never recovered their popularity since disco lost its popularity by the end of the 1970s. [[VindicatedByHistory It's the opposite in several other countries]], though they are often subjected to the PopularityPolynomial.
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* SongAssociation: Thanks to a widespread rumor that "How Deep Is Your Love" was playing at the World Trade Center during 9/11, 21st century listeners frequently report being unable to hear the song without being reminded of the terrorist attacks.
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* SignatureSong: "Stayin' Alive" will always be the song most associated with the band. However, they have [[CreatorBacklash mixed feelings]] about it despite its popularity, as it resulted in their disco TypeCasting. Final verdict: if someone wants it, ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stayin%27_Alive#Beginnings it can't be used for anything related to disco.]]'' Over the years, directors have decided that this is the ''perfect'' song for {{Power Walk}}s.

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* SignatureSong: "Stayin' Alive" will always be the song most associated with the band. However, they have [[CreatorBacklash mixed feelings]] about it despite its popularity, as it resulted in their disco TypeCasting. Final verdict: if someone wants it, ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stayin%27_Alive#Beginnings it can't be used for anything related to disco.]]'' Over the years, directors have decided that this is the ''perfect'' song for {{Power {{Team Power Walk}}s.
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* AngstDissonance: After embodying a GenreRoulette of notable '60s songwriting styles in the '60s, their output in the early 1970s (particularly on 1971's ''Trafalgar'') skewed heavily toward depressing, melancholy ballads in the approximate vein of Gilbert O'Sullivan. The record buying public, both in the UK and the US, became quickly tired of it and stopped buying their albums. It wasn't until they re-emerged as a dance-pop band that they became successful again.

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* AngstDissonance: After embodying a GenreRoulette of notable '60s then-notable songwriting styles in the '60s, their output in the early 1970s (particularly on 1971's ''Trafalgar'') skewed heavily toward depressing, melancholy ballads in the approximate vein of Gilbert O'Sullivan. The record buying public, both in the UK and the US, became quickly tired of it and stopped buying their albums. It wasn't until they re-emerged as a dance-pop band that they became successful again.
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* AngstDissonance: Their songwriting in the early 1970s skewed heavily toward depressing, melancholy ballads. The record buying public, both in the UK and the US, became quickly tired of it and stopped buying their albums. It wasn't until they re-emerged as a dance-pop band that they became successful again.

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* AngstDissonance: Their After embodying a GenreRoulette of notable '60s songwriting styles in the '60s, their output in the early 1970s (particularly on 1971's ''Trafalgar'') skewed heavily toward depressing, melancholy ballads.ballads in the approximate vein of Gilbert O'Sullivan. The record buying public, both in the UK and the US, became quickly tired of it and stopped buying their albums. It wasn't until they re-emerged as a dance-pop band that they became successful again.
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* AmericansHateTingle: Once disco fell out of fashion, they became personas non gratis in the United States, even though they weren't recording disco songs anymore. For instance, their 1987 single "You Win Again" was a number one hit in ten different countries; its US peak was 75.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Once disco fell out of fashion, they became personas non gratis in the United States, even though they weren't recording disco songs anymore. They had the reputation as the "worst band ever" that Music/{{Nickelback}} "enjoys" today. For instance, their 1987 single "You Win Again" was a number one hit in ten different countries; its US peak was 75.

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* MisattributedSong: Samantha Sang's "Emotion" is often attributed to the Gibbs. They did write it and sing the chorus, though, so it's understandable.
** Andy Gibb's songs also tend to be attributed to the Bee Gees. But like the Samantha Sang example, Barry usually had a hand in the production of them, so it's an understandable mistake. And Andy is the Bee Gees' brother, so it's not surprising he'd sound like them anyway. And then there are the people who don't make a distinction between Andy Gibb and the Bee Gees in the first place.
** When the band was just starting to break out internationally, their first hit single, "New York Mining Disaster 1941" was thought to be a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] song. What didn't help was that their label told radio stations that the song was from "an English group whose name starts with a B," so naturally these stations assumed that the song was by the Beatles. Even besides that, rumors circulated during that period that the Bee Gees were actually just the Beatles recording under a pseudonym, saying that Bee Gees was short for "Beatles Group."


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* MisattributedSong: Samantha Sang's "Emotion" is often attributed to the Gibbs. They did write it and sing the chorus, though, so it's understandable.
** Andy Gibb's songs also tend to be attributed to the Bee Gees. But like the Samantha Sang example, Barry usually had a hand in the production of them, so it's an understandable mistake. And Andy is the Bee Gees' brother, so it's not surprising he'd sound like them anyway. And then there are the people who don't make a distinction between Andy Gibb and the Bee Gees in the first place.
** When the band was just starting to break out internationally, their first hit single, "New York Mining Disaster 1941" was thought to be a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] song. What didn't help was that their label told radio stations that the song was from "an English group whose name starts with a B," so naturally these stations assumed that the song was by the Beatles. Even besides that, rumors circulated during that period that the Bee Gees were actually just the Beatles recording under a pseudonym, saying that Bee Gees was short for "Beatles Group."

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* {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Barry's... ''distinct'' falsetto singing voice has been the butt of many jokes, affectionate or not. Then in their disco period, his appearance led to many LooksLikeJesus jokes (with Maurice and Robin sometimes being likened to apostles Peter and John to match). Expect such comments on the YouTube video of "Staying Alive" around Easter every year.

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Barry's... ''distinct'' falsetto singing voice has been the butt of many jokes, affectionate or not. To the point that some fans feel they need to point out that he and the group didn't always have that style.
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Then starting in their disco period, his appearance led to many LooksLikeJesus jokes (with Maurice and Robin sometimes being likened to apostles Peter and John to match). Expect such comments on the YouTube [=YouTube=] video of "Staying "Stayin' Alive" around Easter every year.year.
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* {{Narm}}: Barry's... ''distinct'' falsetto singing voice has been the butt of many jokes.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Barry's... ''distinct'' falsetto singing voice has been the butt of many jokes.jokes, affectionate or not. Then in their disco period, his appearance led to many LooksLikeJesus jokes (with Maurice and Robin sometimes being likened to apostles Peter and John to match). Expect such comments on the YouTube video of "Staying Alive" around Easter every year.
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** Some of their pre-disco songs like "Words" and "To Love Somebody" were big hits back in the day, but due to many people today only knowing them for their disco stuff, later covers by other artists like [[BoyBand Boyzone]] and Music/MichaelBolton may be more familiar for them, not knowing that these are originally Bee Gees songs.

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** Some of their pre-disco songs like "Words" and "To Love Somebody" were big hits back in the day, but due to many people today only knowing them for their disco stuff, later covers by other artists like [[BoyBand Boyzone]] and Music/MichaelBolton may be more familiar for them, not knowing that these are were originally Bee Gees songs.
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** Some of their pre-disco songs like "Words" and "To Love Somebody" were big hits back in the day, but due to many people today only knowing them for their disco stuff, later covers by other artists like Music/{{Boyzone}} and Creator/MichaelBolton may be more familiar for them, not knowing that these are originally Bee Gees songs.

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** Some of their pre-disco songs like "Words" and "To Love Somebody" were big hits back in the day, but due to many people today only knowing them for their disco stuff, later covers by other artists like Music/{{Boyzone}} [[BoyBand Boyzone]] and Creator/MichaelBolton Music/MichaelBolton may be more familiar for them, not knowing that these are originally Bee Gees songs.

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** Some of their pre-disco songs like "Words" and "To Love Somebody" were big hits back in the day, but due to many people today only knowing them for their disco stuff, later covers by other artists like Music/{{Boyzone}} and Creator/MichaelBolton may be more familiar for them, not knowing that these are originally Bee Gees songs.



* OlderThanTheyThink: The ''Film/SaturdayNightFever'' period was actually the Bee Gees' ''second'' wave of popularity. The first was actually as a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatlesque]] rock group in the late 60s, which completely lacked both disco and the falsetto that would become their trademark. Listen to songs like "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7_gMwufFVo Massachusetts]]" and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2fBXpub9U4 To Love Somebody]]"; if all you know are the disco songs, you'll be surprised it's the same band.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The ''Film/SaturdayNightFever'' period was actually the Bee Gees' ''second'' wave of popularity. The first was actually as a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatlesque]] rock group in the late 60s, which completely lacked both disco and the falsetto that would become their trademark. Listen to songs like "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7_gMwufFVo Massachusetts]]" and Massachusetts]]", "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2fBXpub9U4 com/watch?v=hKyrDyvzCiI Words]]", and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJWWHCFPbE To Love Somebody]]"; if all you know are the disco songs, you'll be surprised it's the same band.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Americans will never think of them as anything else than a disco phenomenon, no matter how what else they do and have done.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Americans will never think of them as anything else than a disco phenomenon, no matter how what else they do and have done.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that was relatively unsuccessful (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to #8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.

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"The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that was relatively unsuccessful (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to #8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.1968.
** "I.O.I.O." in 1970 was only a minor hit in most of the Anglosphere (#49 in the UK, #63 in Canada, #94 in the US) but made the Top 10 throughout Europe. Decades later, there were hit covers of it in Germany and South Africa.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The beat of "Stayin' Alive" turned out to be the ideal rhythm for CPR chest compressions and first aid training. In other words, the song actually helps people ''stay alive!''

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* HilariousInHindsight: The beat of "Stayin' Alive" turned out to be the ideal rhythm for CPR chest compressions and first aid training. In other words, the song actually helps people ''stay alive!''alive''!
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* HarsherInHindsight: Their 1971 song "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart" was initially about the group's 16-month split in their early days, but takes on a darker meaning after Maurice's death in January 2003 and Robin's death in May 2012.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The beat of "Stayin' Alive" turned out to be the ideal rhythm for CPR chest compressions. In other words, the song helps people actually stay alive.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The beat of "Stayin' Alive" turned out to be the ideal rhythm for CPR chest compressions. compressions and first aid training. In other words, the song actually helps people actually stay alive.''stay alive!''
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Null edit to clarify - on closer inspection, it's not about the real life event so much as it's about the changing attitudes at the time. However, this is still applied to real life events using a trope that isn't YMMV.
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Discusses the real life event rather than the backlash within a work, and also not a YMMV trope.


* DiscoSucks: Virtually every 1980s/early 1990s parody of the disco era will invariably mock The Bee Gees as being a disco-only group and thus has-beens whose careers were long since ended. This, even though their 1980s albums – featuring their harmony pop-rock style that initially brought them to stardom – still sold reasonably well (although off their late 1970s peak) and were still among the top touring acts. After all, disco may have been their moneymaker and their late 1970s songs may have gained ridicule for a time, but their overall musicianship was their bread and butter. (Even better: Once 1970s music became a part of the classic hits/oldies format, their disco songs became popular once again.)
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* DiscoSucks: Virtually every 1980s/early 1990s parody of the disco era will invariably mock The Bee Gees as being a disco-only group and thus has-beens whose careers were long since ended. This, even though their 1980s albums – featuring their harmony pop-rock style that initially brought them to stardom – still sold reasonably well (although off their late 1970s peak) and were still among the top touring acts. After all, disco may have been their moneymaker and their late 1970s songs may have gained ridicule for a time, but their overall musicianship was their bread and butter. (Even better: Once 1970s music became a part of the classic hits/oldies format, their disco songs became popular once again.)
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that relatively failed to chart (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to #8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that was relatively failed to chart unsuccessful (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to #8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that relatively failed to chart (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to No. 8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that relatively failed to chart (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to No. 8 #8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.

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* CondemnedByHistory: Being associated with disco, when disco's popularity tanked in the 80s, so did the group's popularity ([[AmericansHateTingle at least in the States.]])

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* CondemnedByHistory: Being associated with disco, when disco's [[AmericansHateTingle In the States at least]], the Bee Gees have never recovered their popularity tanked in the 80s, so did the group's since disco lost its popularity ([[AmericansHateTingle at least in by the States.]])end of the 1970s. [[VindicatedByHistory It's the opposite in several other countries]], though they are often subjected to the PopularityPolynomial.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: "The Singer Sang His Song" from 1968 is obscure in most parts of the world, due to being released as the B-side to a single that relatively failed to chart (both it and the A-side "Jumbo" weren't re-released until 1990). However, "The Singer Sang His Song" became a hit in Switzerland, climbing to No. 8 in the charts over there by the end of 1968.



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* CondemnedByHistory : Being associated with disco, when disco's popularity tanked in the 80s, so did the group's popularity ([[AmericansHateTingle at least in the States.]])

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* CondemnedByHistory : CondemnedByHistory: Being associated with disco, when disco's popularity tanked in the 80s, so did the group's popularity ([[AmericansHateTingle at least in the States.]])
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* {{Wangst}}: Why a lot of their early, more downbeat songs eventually stopped selling. "I Started A Joke" would most likely be labeled a "whiny" emo song in the 21st century.

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* {{Wangst}}: Why a lot of their early, more downbeat songs eventually stopped selling. "I Started A Joke" would most likely be labeled a "whiny" emo song in the 21st century.
century. (Until it got a ColbertBump through association with the superhero movie ''[[Film/SuicideSquad2016 Suicide Squad]]'', whose well-received trailer used it to haunting effect.)

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