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** Prior to being neighbors on this show, Red and Bob's actors (Creator/KurtwoodSmith and Don Stark) were already neighbors in a sense - Kurtwood played General Galapagos on ''[[WesternAnimation/EekTheCat The Terrible Thunderlizards]]'', and Don played The Rhino in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries''- both of which aired on Saturday mornings on Creator/FoxKids.



** [[Series/{{Scrubs}} A Kelso]] invoking HasTwoThumbsAnd.
** All of Jackie's lines are funnier when you picture her as [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]] (who, unlike Jackie, is a ButtMonkey).
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** Mainly with Hyde having such an awful childhood his casual {{Jerkass}} traits feel rather mild to what could've been, and who generally becomes a more well-rounded and at least well-meaning character -if not entirely shedding some of his Jerk-ier tendencies- after he moves in with the Formans (and later while dating Jackie).

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** Mainly with Hyde having such an awful childhood his casual {{Jerkass}} traits feel rather mild to what could've been, and who generally becomes a more well-rounded and at least well-meaning character -if character- if not entirely shedding some of his Jerk-ier tendencies- after he moves in with the Formans (and later while dating Jackie).



* ParanoiaFuel : Fez could be hiding in your closet ''right now''!

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* ParanoiaFuel : ParanoiaFuel: Fez could be hiding in your closet ''right now''!
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** In the ''Series/That70sShow'' episode "Tornado Prom," Mila Kunis's character Jackie [[OffToSeeTheWizard played Dorothy in a Wizard of Oz-themed daydream]]. In the dream, Donna was mortally offended that [[VitriolicBestBuds Jackie imagined her as the Wicked Witch of the West.]] In ''Oz the Great and Powerful'', [[spoiler:Jackie ''is'' the Wicked Witch of the West.]]

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** In the ''Series/That70sShow'' episode "Tornado Prom," Mila Kunis's character Jackie [[OffToSeeTheWizard played Dorothy in a Wizard of Oz-themed daydream]]. In the dream, Donna was mortally offended that [[VitriolicBestBuds Jackie imagined her as the Wicked Witch of the West.]] In ''Oz the Great and Powerful'', ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful'', [[spoiler:Jackie ''is'' the Wicked Witch of the West.]]
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** In the episode "Tornado Prom", Jackie has an OffToSeeTheWizard dream sequence in which she is Dorothy. Her actress, Mila Kunis, would later play Theodora, the Wicked Witch of the West, in ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful''.

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** In the ''Series/That70sShow'' episode "Tornado Prom", Prom," Mila Kunis's character Jackie has an OffToSeeTheWizard dream sequence [[OffToSeeTheWizard played Dorothy in which she is Dorothy. Her actress, Mila Kunis, would later play Theodora, a Wizard of Oz-themed daydream]]. In the dream, Donna was mortally offended that [[VitriolicBestBuds Jackie imagined her as the Wicked Witch of the West, in ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful''.West.]] In ''Oz the Great and Powerful'', [[spoiler:Jackie ''is'' the Wicked Witch of the West.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the widescreen remaster used on Netflix, as well as in Blu-Ray and modern DVD releases, does not have glaring flaws, fans were not happy with one scene being altered: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWjShj3IZpo this circle]] in "Tornado Prom" where the remaster removed the special effect of the cardboard cutouts talking, making Donna's reaction less understandable. To a lesser extent, the altered title sequence for the latter half of Season 3 (an altered version of the previous one with Lisa Robin Kelly removed instead of an entirely new one).
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* ShippingGoggles: Fans seem to disregard Hyde's actions in the final season and claim he and Jackie broke up because he didn't want to get married when really the reason was [[AccidentalMarriage the opposite]].
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** The following became this in 2017 due to the various allegations of rape against Danny Masterson that resulted in his being fired from being fired from ''Series/TheRanch'', his 2020 arrest, and his conviction in May 2023:

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** The following became this in 2017 due to the various allegations of rape against Danny Masterson that resulted in his being fired from being fired from ''Series/TheRanch'', his 2020 arrest, and his conviction in May 2023:
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* OneTrueLove: Eric Forman and Donna Pinciotti. Having known each other since they were [[ChildhoodFriendRomance young kids]] living [[GirlNextDoor next door to each other]], Eric while [[LoveAtFirstSight always having had a crush on Donna]] didn't end up dating her eventually until they were teens and she finally showed the same interest. Eric and Donna constantly support and trust each other through difficult times--Donna confiding in Eric when her parents have had problems for one thing--even when [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor their relationship has been on and off again]] and have probably the healthiest relationship among the teens in the show. Donna's constantly forgiven Eric for dumb things he's done that either broke them up or put them on the ropes and the two also do whatever they can for each other--with Eric going to California to find Donna when she runs away and Donna putting off college to stay with Eric--to the point that even when Eric leaves for Africa and then comes back in the [[GrandFinale series finale]], Donna almost immediately takes him back. By the time of the [[Series/That90sShow sequel series]], Eric and Donna are [[HappilyMarried husband and wife]] and have a teen daughter named Leia.
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* OneTrueLove: Eric Forman and Donna Pinciotti. Having known each other since they were [[ChildhoodFriendRomance young kids]] living [[GirlNextDoor next door to each other]], Eric while [[LoveAtFirstSight always having had a crush on Donna]] didn't end up dating her eventually until they were teens and she finally showed the same interest. Eric and Donna constantly support and trust each other through difficult times--Donna confiding in Eric when her parents have had problems for one thing--even when [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor their relationship has been on and off again]] and have probably the healthiest relationship among the teens in the show. Donna's constantly forgiven Eric for dumb things he's done that either broke them up or put them on the ropes and the two also do whatever they can for each other--with Eric going to California to find Donna when she runs away and Donna putting off college to stay with Eric--to the point that even when Eric leaves for Africa and then comes back in the [[GrandFinale series finale]], Donna almost immediately takes him back. By the time of the [[Series/That90sShow sequel series]], Eric and Donna are [[HappilyMarried husband and wife]] and have a teen daughter named Leia.

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*** Furthermore in the episode Laurie states at Marion Ross’ character’s funeral “Life is so weird, you get old and die. Thank God I’m still young and hot” is now quite eerie because of Lisa Robin Kelly’s 2013death, whereas Marion Ross is still alive and kicking it.

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*** Furthermore in the episode Laurie states at Marion Ross’ character’s funeral “Life is so weird, you get old and die. Thank God I’m still young and hot” is now quite eerie because of Lisa Robin Kelly’s 2013death, 2013 death, whereas Marion Ross is still alive and kicking it.



** The episode "Grandma's Dead" does have a heartbreaking real world example though during the otherwise hilarious funeral scene when each character observes Grandma Forman's open casket and we hear the thoughts that run through their head. Laurie reflects on how life is complicated because you "get all old and die... thank God I'm young and hot!" In light of the death of actress Lisa Robin Kelly at the age of 43, it's cringe-inducing.
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** The picture of a distraught Kitty pouring tequila into a blender from ''Good Company''.
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** While the arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple during the final episodes of the series is already perceived by most as an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString, it becomes a rather dark ShaggyDogStory in hindsight, considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards. The arc has Jackie set aside her racist views and finally see Fez for what he is, and Fez work through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, only for the reveal to retroactively change the tone of the arc completely:

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** While the arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple during the final episodes of the series is already perceived by most as an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString, it becomes a rather dark ShaggyDogStory in hindsight, considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards. The arc has Jackie set aside her racist views and views, finally see Fez for what he is, and actively (and sometimes aggressively) pursue him, and Fez work through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, only for the reveal to retroactively change the tone of the arc completely:
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** The arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple during the final stretch of the series is already perceived as an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString. While it originally presents Jackie as setting aside her racist views and finally seeing Fez for what he is, and Fez as working through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, it becomes very dark in hindsight, considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards:

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** The While the arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple during the final stretch episodes of the series is already perceived by most as an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString. While it originally presents Jackie as setting aside her racist views and finally seeing Fez for what he is, and Fez as working through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, StrangledByTheRedString, it becomes very a rather dark ShaggyDogStory in hindsight, considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards:afterwards. The arc has Jackie set aside her racist views and finally see Fez for what he is, and Fez work through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, only for the reveal to retroactively change the tone of the arc completely:
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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.

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*** All of Fez's doubts and misgivings and fears that Jackie is just a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.
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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? The warning Hyde gives Fez about Jackie being a destructive force not worth pursuing, originally shown as nothing more than a sarcastic remark by a bitter ex? '''Absolutely correct'''.

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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? The warning Hyde gives Fez about Jackie being a destructive force not worth pursuing, originally shown as nothing more than a sarcastic remark by a bitter ex? '''Absolutely correct'''.



** Related to the above, the Season 7 finale shows that when one-on-one with Kelso for long stretches of time, Jackie, who is usually lauded as the character who got the most development through the years, starts acting like her original immature self. Come ''That '90s Show'', between the group falling apart and no longer having any influence on her, and her renewed relationship with Kelso, she completely regressed, her character development seemingly undone.

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** Related to the above, the first scene of the Season 7 finale shows that when one-on-one with Kelso for long stretches of time, Jackie, who is usually lauded as the character who got the most development through the years, starts acting like can show signs of reverting to her original immature self.self when left alone with Kelso for long stretches of time. Come ''That '90s Show'', between the group falling apart and no longer having any influence on her, and her renewed relationship with Kelso, she completely regressed, her character development seemingly undone.
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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.

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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? The warning Hyde gives Fez about Jackie being a destructive force not worth pursuing, originally shown as nothing more than a sarcastic remark by a bitter ex? '''Absolutely correct'''.
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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat who's looking for a rebound, only wants him out of desperation, and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.
*** While the original intention was for Jackie's feelings and emotions during this arc to be genuine, the knowledge of what came after completely ruin it. At best, one could wonder how desperate and lost she was at that point in her life. At worst, the word "sociopath" wouldn't be inappropriate.

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*** All of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat who's looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation, desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.
*** While the original intention was for Jackie's feelings and emotions during this arc to be genuine, the knowledge of what came after completely ruin ruins it. At best, one could wonder how desperate and lost she was at that point in her life. At worst, the word "sociopath" wouldn't be inappropriate.

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** While Jackie and Fez becoming a couple in the final episode is already perceived as StrangledByTheRedString, the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards makes it much worse:
*** The entire arc, while originally presenting Jackie as setting aside her racist views and finally seeing Fez for what he is, and Fez as working through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, becomes tragic in hindsight, since all of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat who's looking for a rebound, only wants him out of desperation, and would dump him the moment something better comes along, turned out to be '''absolutely correct'''.

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** While The arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple in during the final episode stretch of the series is already perceived as StrangledByTheRedString, the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards makes an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString. While it much worse:
*** The entire arc, while
originally presenting presents Jackie as setting aside her racist views and finally seeing Fez for what he is, and Fez as working through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, it becomes tragic very dark in hindsight, since all considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards:
*** All
of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat who's looking for a rebound, only wants him out of desperation, and would will dump him the moment something better comes along, turned out along? '''Absolutely correct'''.
*** While the original intention was for Jackie's feelings and emotions during this arc
to be '''absolutely correct'''.genuine, the knowledge of what came after completely ruin it. At best, one could wonder how desperate and lost she was at that point in her life. At worst, the word "sociopath" wouldn't be inappropriate.

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** Kelso’s comment where he compares himself, Hyde and Fez to different cars, with Fez being the worst by far, feels a lot crueler after ''Series/That90sShow'' revealed that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso.

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** Kelso’s While Jackie and Fez becoming a couple in the final episode is already perceived as StrangledByTheRedString, the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards makes it much worse:
*** The entire arc, while originally presenting Jackie as setting aside her racist views and finally seeing Fez for what he is, and Fez as working through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, becomes tragic in hindsight, since all of Fez's misgivings and fears that Jackie is a spoiled brat who's looking for a rebound, only wants him out of desperation, and would dump him the moment something better comes along, turned out to be '''absolutely correct'''.
*** Kelso's
comment in "That '70s Finale" where he compares himself, Hyde and Fez to different cars, with Fez being the worst by far, feels a lot crueler after ''Series/That90sShow'' revealed considering the events that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation followed.
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to get back together the above, the Season 7 finale shows that when one-on-one with Kelso.Kelso for long stretches of time, Jackie, who is usually lauded as the character who got the most development through the years, starts acting like her original immature self. Come ''That '90s Show'', between the group falling apart and no longer having any influence on her, and her renewed relationship with Kelso, she completely regressed, her character development seemingly undone.
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*** Furthermore in the episode Laurie states at Marion Ross’ character’s funeral “Life is so weird, you get old and die. Thank God I’m still young and hot” is now quite eerie because of Lisa Robin Kelly’s death, whereas Marion Ross is still alive and kicking it.

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*** Furthermore in the episode Laurie states at Marion Ross’ character’s funeral “Life is so weird, you get old and die. Thank God I’m still young and hot” is now quite eerie because of Lisa Robin Kelly’s death, 2013death, whereas Marion Ross is still alive and kicking it.
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*** Hyde says "I always thought it was the loss of freedom...and the uninvited man-love" when Jackie talks about why prisoners are unhappy. Come 2020, Creator/DannyMasterson gets arrested for allegedly raping three women.

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*** Hyde says "I always thought it was the loss of freedom...and the uninvited man-love" when Jackie talks about why prisoners are unhappy. Come 2020, Creator/DannyMasterson gets arrested for allegedly raping three women.



*** There was a scene from the episode where the gang goes to a wrestling match. After it was announced on TV, Donna starts wrestling Eric and she laughingly exclaims that Eric isn't fighting back, cut to Hyde's deadpan "Why would he?". Back then, it was funny because Eric wouldn't dare fight back someone who is as attractive as Donna if it meant getting to her; now looks more acute with how Masterson was alleged to have raped women.

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*** There was a scene from the episode where the gang goes to a wrestling match. After it was announced on TV, Donna starts wrestling Eric and she laughingly exclaims that Eric isn't fighting back, cut to Hyde's deadpan "Why would he?". Back then, it was funny because Eric wouldn't dare fight back someone who is as attractive as Donna if it meant getting to her; now looks more acute with how Masterson was alleged to have raped women. her.
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* AcceptableTargets:
** In this universe, Canada is an entire nation of {{Butt Monkey}}s. At least in one episode.
** Laurie was considered fair game because she was highly promiscuous and a total bitch, which made it okay to make fun of her at every opportunity for both.
** Likewise, Kelso's stupidity and cheating on Jackie often served as punchlines, and his friends not only laughed at his misery resulting from it, they often made it worse.

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