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* IKnewIt: Judas is [[spoiler:Leon]]!
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* MemeticMutation: Judas's mask and how [[PaperThinDisguise ineffective at hiding his true identity]] it is has become somewhat of a RunningGag amongst the TalesSeries fandom, especially in Japan.

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* MemeticMutation: Judas's mask and how [[PaperThinDisguise ineffective at hiding his true identity]] it is has become somewhat of a RunningGag amongst the TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries fandom, especially in Japan.
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** The degree of Harold's insanity is up for debate. Is she really off her rocker all the time, [[ObfuscatingInsanity or is it a ruse to mess with people or gain attention?]]

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** The degree of Harold's insanity is [[ObfuscatingInsanity up for debate. debate.]] Is she really off her rocker all the time, [[ObfuscatingInsanity [[{{Troll}} or is it a ruse to mess with people or gain attention?]]
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* MostAnnoyingSound: "Orokana". The quote Elraine ''calmly says'' as she bats your melees away for the ''third time in a row''.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: A party of Kyle, Reala, Judas, and Harold are pretty much the ''only'' party you will see use of, Nanaly and Loni are usually ditched the first chance the other three come along and stay along.
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* MemeticMutation: Judas's mask and how [[PaperThinDisguise ineffective at hiding his true identity]] it is has become somewhat of a RunningGag amongst the TalesSeries fandom, especially in Japan.
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Attempting to destroy the world puts one squarely in the villain position. Especially when it's do to being told that humanity doesn't need you.


* DesignatedVillain: It's hard to deny that Fortuna wants to make a better world for people, or that Kyle wasn't trying to see the good in her argument, even if he didn't have to agree with it. On the other hand, Fortuna's not very sympathetic, and saying humans are helpless and that history should be destroyed isn't a very good approach to the discussion.
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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy. People don't soften the evil things he's done, but love him for his vileness and intelligence.

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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy.skits. People don't soften the evil things he's done, but love him for his vileness and intelligence.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The game is one of the highest selling RPGs for the PS2 in Taiwan.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The game is one of the highest selling RPGs for the PS2 [=PS2=] in Taiwan.
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** The degree of Harold's insanity is up for debate. Is she really off her rocker all the time, [[ObfuscatingInsanity or is it a ruse to mess with people or gain attention?]]

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* MarySue / PuritySue: Reala dominates the plot and can do no wrong - basically the definition of a MarySue. While a handful of ''Tales'' heroines do have some MarySue traits, they're usually targets of [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstruction]] that get substantial CharacterDevelopment before the credits roll. Reala, however, plays them all totally straight.
** This could be justified because up until [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia the next game]], the Tales team are still experimenting on what works or not, in terms of story especially. They [[GrowingTheBeard successfully came with their own brand of Deconstructed Heroines theme next game]], so Reala thankfully would be the last of straight out Sues in Tales. And even so, Reala's pretty miserable on her own with her quest of the DuelingMessiahs she had and she certainly develops into being able to FaceDeathWithDignity in the end of the quest, her biggest problem to the fandom just so happens that [[SpotlightStealingSquad her storyline hogs the majority of the screentime]].
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** The Egg and Cyclops enemies in Spiral Cave are both incredibly annoying for different reasons. The Eggs are annoying because they [[DamageSponge soak up a ton of damage]] and ruin your Grade, while the Cyclops teleport around out of reach to cast magic.

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* CompleteMonster: Barbatos Goetia was a former member of the Er'ther Army, who sold out his people to the Aetherians during the Aeth'er Wars so that he could be on the winning side. Due to the scale of the atrocities he committed, Barbatos's name was removed from history altogether. Following his resurrection by [[BigBad Elraine]], Barbatos acts as her personal assassin, going after the heroes who saved the world from the resurrection of the Aethersphere and the superweapon Belcrant. In order to kill two of these heroes, Stahn and Rutee, Babartos uses a little boy as a hostage and threatens to kill him unless they drop their weapons. After they do so, Barbatos kills Stahn and cripples Rutee. Barbatos then tries to kill High Priestess Philia Felice and King Garr Kelvin of Phandaria, the latter of which he attempts to kill after crashing an airship into the royal castle as a distraction. When he returns with Elraine to the past, Barbatos encounters Dymlos, the old enemy who had killed him, and, in revenge, kidnaps a girl who's in love with Dymlos to use her as a hostage to force the weakened Dymlos to duel him. And ''then'', he taunts Harold about [[SadisticChoice not being able to save her brother's life if she doesn't change the past]]. [[ItsAllAboutMe Utterly self-centered]], Barbatos's ultimate goal and obsession is to force history to recognize him as a hero, even as he commits every evil deed imaginable and [[EvilCannotComprehendGood has no comprehension of what true heroism is]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BloodKnight Barbatos Goetia was Goetia]], a former member of the Er'ther Army, who [[DirtyCoward sold out his people people]] to the Aetherians during the Aeth'er Wars so that he could be on the winning side. Due to the scale of the atrocities he committed, Barbatos's name was removed from history altogether. Following his resurrection by [[BigBad Elraine]], Barbatos acts [[TheDragon acts]] as her [[PsychoForHire personal assassin, assassin]], going after the heroes who saved the world from the resurrection of the Aethersphere and the superweapon Belcrant. In order to kill two of these heroes, Stahn and Rutee, Babartos uses a little boy as a hostage and [[WouldHurtAChild threatens to kill him him]] unless they drop their weapons. After they do so, Barbatos kills Stahn and cripples Rutee. Barbatos then tries to kill High Priestess Philia Felice and King Garr Kelvin of Phandaria, the latter of which he attempts to kill after crashing an airship into the royal castle as a distraction. When he returns with Elraine to the past, Barbatos encounters Dymlos, the old enemy who had killed him, and, in revenge, kidnaps a girl who's in love with Dymlos to use her as a hostage to force the weakened Dymlos to duel him. And ''then'', he taunts Harold about [[SadisticChoice not being able to save her brother's life if she doesn't change the past]]. [[ItsAllAboutMe Utterly self-centered]], Barbatos's ultimate goal and obsession is to force history to recognize him as a hero, even as he commits every evil deed imaginable and [[EvilCannotComprehendGood has no comprehension comprehension]] of what [[WrongGenreSavvy true heroism is]].
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* DemonicSpiders: Any Reaper or Ghost enemies, which like to teleport around out of reach (usually behind a StoneWall type enemy) and cast high level magic. Even worse is that where you find one, you will find the other, and it is possible for encounters to comprise of only Ghosts and Reapers.

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* DemonicSpiders: Any Reaper or Ghost enemies, which like to teleport around out of reach (usually behind a StoneWall type enemy) and cast high level magic. Even worse is that where you find one, you will find the other, and it is possible for encounters to comprise of only Ghosts and Reapers.Reapers constantly casting magic at you and trapping you in a CycleOfHurting.
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* DemonicSpiders: Any Reaper or Ghost enemies, which like to teleport around out of reach (usually behind a StoneWall type enemy) and cast high level magic. Even worse is that where you find one, you will find the other, and it is possible for encounters to comprise of only Ghosts and Reapers.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Judas in the manga is more emotive than his game counterpart and more prone to outbursts of anger.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Judas in the manga is more emotive than his game counterpart and more prone to outbursts of anger.anger, flat out attacking Elraine when she [[spoiler: attempts to expose his identity.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Judas in the manga is more emotive than his game counterpart and more prone to outbursts of anger.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The game is one of the highest selling RPGs for the PS2 in Taiwan.
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* TheWoobie: Everyone in the party has their moments of woobiedom, but Reala and Nanaly both go above and beyond:
** While Reala might not be well-liked, it's hard to deny she doesn't at least gain some Woobie points through the course of the story. She's [[spoiler: created]] with a huge disadvantage compared to her DarkMessiah counterpart, initially cannot find the hero she needs [[spoiler: to prevent Elraine from creating a TerminallyDependentSociety]], and during the course of her journey falls in love with a boy who decides to [[spoiler: kill her creator, the only person keeping her alive.]] She doesn't say anything to try to reduce the pain Kyle would go through as a result of this, only for said counterpart to reveal both the truth of how she was [[spoiler: created]] and that she will die with glee. [[spoiler: While she does manage to come back to life in the end, she had no way of knowing survival was possible, and fully expected to be erased from existence.]]
** Nanaly grew up in an orphanage with her brother, who got sick. Elraine offered to save his life, but only if they accepted brainwashing and having their free will removed entirely. Her brother died and she was left alone raising a bunch of orphans. Then, when she joins the party to fight Elraine, she gets put in a LotusEaterMachine where her brother's alive, only to be told he's not real. Then she has to reject her brother while he screamed and cried that he was real and didn't want her to leave him. Ouch.
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* RomanticPlotTumour: Some people feel Kyle and Reala's romance plot, while well-developed and quite tragic, took the spotlight off of the more interesting side characters, leaving them there for gameplay and comedic purposes rather than any story significance starting in the third part of the game.
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* DieForOurShip: Kyle of all people gets some because he's Stahn and Rutee's son, which invalidates the FanPreferredCouple [[HoYay Stahn[=/=]Leon]] from the previous game.
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** The Title Glitch done properly will allow every character's stat growth to go through the roof, effectively removing every character's weaknesses. (Fast Loni, Beefy Judas, Quick Regenerating Mana Harold)
* GoodBadBugs: The Title Glitch, which done properly boosts characters' growth patterns significantly and nullifies their weak stats.
** The summon glitch allowing Nanaly to summon Efreet and Undine, giving her access to two more hi-ougis.
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* InferredHolocaust: With Elraine creating several BadFutures, including one spanning a thousand years in length with only three surviving cities, millions of people would have been erased from existence. This is retconned in the end, but it doesn't make it any less horrific.

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* InferredHolocaust: With Elraine creating several BadFutures, Bad Futures, including one spanning a thousand years in length with only three surviving cities, millions of people would have been erased from existence. This is retconned in the end, but it doesn't make it any less horrific.
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* InferredHolocaust: With Elraine creating several BadFutures, including one spanning a thousand years in length with only three surviving cities, millions of people would have been erased from existence. This is retconned in the end, but it doesn't make it any less horrific.

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* GameBreaker: All magic in this game is overpowered compared to melee (according to WordOfGod, to encourage [[SocializationBonus cooperative play]]), but Harold's full Crazy Comet spell is so insanely powerful the full version has to be showcased on bosses because the usual enemies won't survive long enough for the whole thing. The last stage ''heals your party after dealing high thousands of points of damage''. It's only balanced by requiring a lot of TP to use (you're guaranteed to have to use a TP restoring item on her to use it) and only being unlockable on the second playthrough of the game. In later games, the spell is turned into a proper Mystic Arte, requiring you to be in overlimit to activate it.



* GameBreaker: All magic in this game is overpowered compared to melee (according to WordOfGod, to encourage [[SocializationBonus cooperative play]]), but Harold's full Crazy Comet spell is so insanely powerful the full version has to be showcased on bosses because the usual enemies won't survive long enough for the whole thing. The last stage ''heals your party after dealing high thousands of points of damage''. It's only balanced by requiring a lot of TP to use (you're guaranteed to have to use a TP restoring item on her to use it) and only being unlockable on the second playthrough of the game. In later games, the spell is turned into a proper Mystic Arte, requiring you to be in overlimit to activate it.
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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits. People don't soften the evil things he's done.

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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits. skits, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy. People don't soften the evil things he's done.done, but love him for his vileness and intelligence.
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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits.

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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits. People don't soften the evil things he's done.
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* GameBreaker: All magic in this game is overpowered compared to melee (according to WordOfGod, to encourage [[SocializationBonus cooperative play]], but Harold's full Crazy Comet spell is so insanely powerful the full version has to be showcased on bosses because the usual enemies won't survive long enough for the whole thing. The last stage ''heals your party after dealing high thousands of points of damage''. It's only balanced by requiring a lot of TP to use (you're guaranteed to have to use a TP restoring item on her to use it) and only being unlockable on the second playthrough of the game. In later games, the spell is turned into a proper Mystic Arte, requiring you to be in overlimit to activate it.

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* GameBreaker: All magic in this game is overpowered compared to melee (according to WordOfGod, to encourage [[SocializationBonus cooperative play]], play]]), but Harold's full Crazy Comet spell is so insanely powerful the full version has to be showcased on bosses because the usual enemies won't survive long enough for the whole thing. The last stage ''heals your party after dealing high thousands of points of damage''. It's only balanced by requiring a lot of TP to use (you're guaranteed to have to use a TP restoring item on her to use it) and only being unlockable on the second playthrough of the game. In later games, the spell is turned into a proper Mystic Arte, requiring you to be in overlimit to activate it.
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* LoveToHate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining LargeHam, especially in skits.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Despite some mixed reactions to some story elements, this game is the first to introduce two of the franchise's staples- Grade and the Grade Shop for use on a NewGamePlus.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Despite some mixed reactions to some story elements, this game is the first to introduce two of the franchise's staples- Grade and the Grade Shop for use on a NewGamePlus. It also included a polished (though still slightly unusual) Mystic Arte system.

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