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  • Alternative Character Interpretation: See this page.
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  • Angst? What Angst?: Kyle's father was killed in front of him and his mother was crippled. He's sad about it, but doesn't seem to mind too much even when he remembers. Averted with Loni, who does remember and is upset about it, and with Harold and Judas, who both lose loved ones but just don't show their sadness too openly- Certain skits do show they're still pretty sad about their losses.
  • Anti-Frustration Features: See this page.
  • Awesome Ego: Harold in-universe is very self-confident in her genius and abilities. Fans love her Crazy Awesome and her Game-Breaker status.
  • Base-Breaking Character: Judas, otherwise known as Leon mostly due to the fact that he is the only returning party member from the original game. While his story arc and interactions are considered to be good, some players had trouble forgiving for his abusive actions in the previous game and how dark he made the first half of the game feel. Then there are those who saw his inclusion as pandering to his diehard fans, especially considering he actually outlives Stahn, the main character of the original game.
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  • Complacent Gaming Syndrome: A party of Kyle, Reala, Judas, and Harold are pretty much the only party you will see use of, Nanaly and Loni are usually ditched the first chance the other three come along and stay along.
  • Complete Monster: Barbatos Goetia, a former member of the Er'ther Army, sold out his people to the Aetherians during the Aeth'er Wars so that he could be on the winning side. Due to the scale of the atrocities he committed, Barbatos's name was removed from history altogether. Following his resurrection by Elraine, Barbatos acts as her personal assassin, going after the heroes who saved the world from the resurrection of the Aethersphere and the superweapon Belcrant. In order to kill two of these heroes, Stahn and Rutee, Babartos uses a little boy as a hostage and threatens to kill him unless they drop their weapons. After they do so, Barbatos kills Stahn and cripples Rutee. Barbatos then tries to kill High Priestess Philia Felice and King Garr Kelvin of Phandaria, the latter of which he attempts to kill after crashing an airship into the royal castle as a distraction. When he returns with Elraine to the past, Barbatos encounters Dymlos, the old enemy who had killed him, and, in revenge, kidnaps a girl who's in love with Dymlos to use her as a hostage to force the weakened Dymlos to duel him. Utterly self-centered, Barbatos's ultimate goal and obsession is to force history to recognize him as a hero, even as he commits every evil deed imaginable and has no comprehension of what true heroism is.
  • Crazy Awesome: Harold borders on this. During one skit, she offers Loni some home-cooked food. Loni (correctly) guesses that she's spiked the food with paralysing powder so that she can drag his body off for experimentation, and eats some of Nanaly's food instead. Turns out, Harold knew he'd come to that conclusion and switched the plates.
    • The full version of her last Mystic Arte, Crazy Comet, is this as well as a Game-Breaker.
  • Demonic Spiders: Any Reaper or Ghost enemies, which like to teleport around out of reach (usually behind a Stone Wall type enemy) and cast high level magic. Even worse is that where you find one, you will find the other, and it is possible for encounters to comprise of only Ghosts and Reapers constantly casting magic at you and trapping you in a Cycle of Hurting.
    • The Egg and Cyclops enemies in Spiral Cave are both incredibly annoying for different reasons. The Eggs are annoying because they soak up a ton of damage and ruin your Grade, while the Cyclops teleport around out of reach to cast magic.
  • Die for Our Ship: A strange example, as he is not the focus of the pairing, but many people like pretend Kyle doesn't exist because he is Stahn and Rutee's child, a pairing that is unpopular to say the least.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Nanaly Fletch may also be a minor version of this, appearing/announced for spinoff games first before Kyle even appears/get announced. She even appeared overseas first out of all the cast. (She appeared as a cameo boss in Tales of the Abyss.)
  • Fridge Logic:
    • How did Judas carry five swords on him when he performed his Big Damn Heroes moment and pull them out so easily? It's hard enough to carry more than two, and he was trying to conceal at least one of them.
    • Where does Judas keep getting new masks after performing Infernal Suffering?
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The game is one of the highest selling Role Playing Games for the PS2 in Taiwan.
  • Good Bad Bugs: The Title Glitch, which done properly boosts characters' growth patterns significantly and nullifies their weak stats.
    • The summon glitch allowing Nanaly to summon Efreet and Undine, giving her access to two more hi-ougis.
  • Growing the Beard: Despite some mixed reactions to some story elements, this game is the first to introduce two of the franchise's staples- Grade and the Grade Shop for use on a New Game+. It also included a polished (though still slightly unusual) Mystic Arte system.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: In a sidequest exclusive to the epilogue, you have to hunt for a flower called Berseria Flower in order to make a medicine required to cure Nanaly’s little brother from his supposedly-incurable illness. Tales of Berseria stars an older sister who is motivated by the death of her little brother, and a sidequest chain in the game centers around making the medicine for a little brother’s supposedly-incurable illness. Worth noting that the origins of both “Berseria” are differentnote .
  • Inferred Holocaust: With Elraine creating several Bad Futures, including one spanning a thousand years in length with only three surviving cities, millions of people would have been erased from existence. This is retconned in the end, but it doesn't make it any less horrific.
  • It Was His Sled: The fact that it is obviously Leon beneath that mask has been lampshaded and parodied quite a bit. Here are a few examples.
    • Heck, some dramas treat this as a Paper-Thin Disguise. one good one was when Stahn saw Leon (as Judas) and greeted him as Leon.
  • Love to Hate: Barbatos Goetia. He's a horrific villain, but also a very over-the-top and entertaining Large Ham, especially in skits. People don't soften the evil things he's done, but love him for his vileness and intelligence.
  • Magnificent Bitch: Elra(i)ne, Holy Woman of the Order of Atamoni, yearns to offer salvation to humanity by altering the events of the past to better align it with her vision of an ideal world that surrenders free will for lasting peace. Possessed of a graceful demeanor yet powerful voice, Elrane conducts religious sermons that charm the masses of Dycroft who revere her as the manifestation of the goddess Fortuna herself, wrapping almost all of the entire setting around her finger while surreptitiously collecting huge amounts of Lens for the purpose of creating her utopia. In the interest of maintaining such a favorable position, Elrane enlists Barbatos Goetia as her personal assassin to eliminate threats to her goals without exposing herself. Even when she meets her end at the Egg of God, Elrane expresses regret she could not usher in the best age of mankind she envisioned, feeling justified in changing the timeline and slaughtering heroes in the name of Fortuna.
  • Memetic Mutation: Judas's mask and how ineffective at hiding his true identity it is has become somewhat of a Running Gag amongst the Tales Series fandom, especially in Japan.
  • Narm Charm: Kyle's famous "REEEAAAALAAAAA" is either this or a Tear Jerker.
  • Retroactive Recognition: This is one of the earlier Japanese media that featured Jun Fukuyama, where his main forte was basically naive young Idiot Hero like Kyle. It'll be years later until he became much more recognized as the Large Ham Magnificent Bastard Lelouch vi Britannia.
  • Romantic Plot Tumour: Some people feel Kyle and Reala's romance plot, while well-developed and quite tragic, took the spotlight off of the more interesting side characters, leaving them there for gameplay and comedic purposes rather than any story significance starting in the third part of the game.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Because of Reala's tendency to be in the spotlight more, some characters, like Loni and Nanaly, kind of stops being relevant after the Lotus-Eater Machine arc.
    • Harold may be a minor example, as she only joins the party late in the game and her arc ends fairly abruptly with her brother's death. She does get a few skits afterwards (and one is a Heartwarming Moment), but for the most part afterwards she only serves for exposition and comedic purposes. And to have a full-out mage.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Many plot threads, especially near the end of the game, are quickly glossed over, such as the budding friendship between Harold and Judas over similar ruthless ideals and losses of people close to them, the revelation that Stahn was Dead All Along, with Kyle witnessing his father's death, Phillia possibly recognizing Judas, the Stable Time Loop created by Chaltier's sacrifice (which causes some timey wimey Fridge Logic with the game's ending taken into account) and anything to do with Nanaly and Loni that didn't involve each other to instead focus on Kyle and Reala's relationship. While the development was good to avoid any string strangling that some Tales games suffer with official couples, that's a lot of glossed over material.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy: Nanaly. Only one mystic arte, primarily focused on attacking, in a game where magic is considerably more buffed compared to others...people tend to ditch her when Harold comes along. A rather odd example, since Nanaly is actually beloved character-wise.
  • Uncanny Valley: Reala is a stick figure. Even with this game's art style, she looks weird. Her dress also makes her legs look much longer than they actually are and her torso look much smaller than it should be. This extends to even cameo appearances where she looks out of place, especially in her cameo for Tales of Graces where she looks like a ten year old girl. There's also the issue of her skin tone being oddly pale with dark lips. She's supposed to be an example of Raven Hair, Ivory Skin but comes off as more of an Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette combined with the obvious thinness.


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