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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''First Departure'' and ''R'' (to a lesser extent) were hit by this. The game does have a somewhat unique story and a nice premise. Unfortunately, [[SequelFirst the second and third games came out first]] outside of Japan. By the time it finally got a legit release, it was basically the Super Nintendo game with a fresh coat of paint (Albeit with some much-appreciated additions like T'nique, Erys, and Welch, and giving extra private actions to develop the characters.) It was a little hard to appreciate just what made this game unique back in the day.
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** Ronyx is a prominent and good character in story, what with being the first known Kenny family member (he's not the chronologically first within the timeline though, that would be [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]]) and the father of the hero of [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory the second game]], but players tend to be less inclined to use him due to his awkward play style (a marksman that uses magic, turning him into a MasterOfNone). This even carries over to ''[[VideoGame/StarOceanAnamnesis Anamnesis]]'', where he's once again a bottom tier character.

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** Ronyx is a prominent and good character in story, what with being the first known Kenny family member (he's not the chronologically first within the timeline though, that would be [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]]) and the father of the hero of [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory the second game]], but players tend to be less inclined to use him due to his awkward play style (a marksman that uses magic, turning him into a MasterOfNone). This even carries over to ''[[VideoGame/StarOceanAnamnesis Anamnesis]]'', where he's once again a bottom tier character. This is [[NewerThanTheyThink mainly an issue in the remake]], as mages were given several {{balance buff}}s that Ronyx can't take full advantage of due to his equipment options.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus is that the game (both the SNES and PSP versions) is considered decent to mediocre, with unrefined gameplay and weaker characters compared to later entries. While the later half of the game is maligned for how rushed it is, it doesn't compare to the backlash of the [[VideoGame/StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime third game's]] PlotTwist.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus is that the game (both the SNES and PSP versions) is considered decent to mediocre, with unrefined gameplay and weaker characters compared to later entries. While the later half of the game is maligned for how rushed it is, it doesn't compare to the backlash of the [[VideoGame/StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime third game's]] PlotTwist.infamous plot twist.
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* MemeticLoser: Ronyx tends to be a LowTierLetdown in every games he appeared. And he also holds the record of the only member of [[HeroicLineage the Kenny family]] to [[spoiler:die on-screen]] and definitely not in a peaceful way (though granted, his death is PlayedForDrama), while the other Kenny members ([[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory Claude]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness Emerson]] and [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheDivineForce Marielle]]) usually [[spoiler:survive their stories and pass away off-screen]], definitely in peaceful times.

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* MemeticLoser: Ronyx tends to be a LowTierLetdown in every games he appeared. And he also holds the record of the only member of [[HeroicLineage the Kenny family]] to [[spoiler:die on-screen]] and definitely not in a peaceful way (though granted, his death [[spoiler:his death]] is PlayedForDrama), while the other Kenny members ([[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory Claude]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness Emerson]] and [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheDivineForce Marielle]]) usually [[spoiler:survive their stories and pass away off-screen]], definitely in peaceful times.
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* MemeticLoser: Ronyx tends to be a LowTierLetdown in every games he appeared. And he also holds the record of the only member of [[HeroicLineage the Kenny family]] to die on-screen and definitely not in a peaceful way (though granted, his death is PlayedForDrama), while the other Kenny members ([[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory Claude]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness Emerson]] and [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheDivineForce Marielle]]) usually survive their stories and pass away off-screen, definitely in peaceful times.

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* MemeticLoser: Ronyx tends to be a LowTierLetdown in every games he appeared. And he also holds the record of the only member of [[HeroicLineage the Kenny family]] to die on-screen [[spoiler:die on-screen]] and definitely not in a peaceful way (though granted, his death is PlayedForDrama), while the other Kenny members ([[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory Claude]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness Emerson]] and [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheDivineForce Marielle]]) usually survive [[spoiler:survive their stories and pass away off-screen, off-screen]], definitely in peaceful times.
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** Erys is generally known as the more natural progression to Mavelle's character, and even as a mage, she is generally considered as one of the more powerful ones. The problem is that she's in a ''Star Ocean'' game where spells freeze time and will deal less damage than physical skills. Mavelle is a physical attacker and her Galaxy skill is considered one of the more powerful skills. Therefore, there's a lot who would opt not to turn Mavelle back to Erys so they can still access her skills.
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* MemeticLoser: Ronyx tends to be a LowTierLetdown in every games he appeared. And he also holds the record of the only member of [[HeroicLineage the Kenny family]] to die on-screen and definitely not in a peaceful way (though granted, his death is PlayedForDrama), while the other Kenny members ([[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory Claude]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]], [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness Emerson]] and [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheDivineForce Marielle]]) usually survive their stories and pass away off-screen, definitely in peaceful times.
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* DemonicSpider: The Muah Royal Treasury is home to Shadow Beasts and Stirges, and even the [[SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity high level gear you find there]] won't save you from them.

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* DemonicSpider: DemonicSpiders: The Muah Royal Treasury is home to Shadow Beasts and Stirges, and even the [[SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity high level gear you find there]] won't save you from them.



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: How some people view the remakes of being. Rather than AdaptationExpansion, the remake(s) were straight up adaptation but with more polish added. Its main critique is its length, and this was kept in the remake with Fargett only being a few areas with all CharacterDevelopment brought to a ''halt''.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: How some people view the remakes of being. Rather than AdaptationExpansion, the remake(s) were straight up adaptation but with more polish added. Its main critique is its length, and this was kept in the remake with Fargett only being a few areas with all CharacterDevelopment brought to a ''halt''.



* {{Misblamed}}: While it's not exactly the height of polish either way, the game garnered a reputation for being glitch-ridden and crash prone (including, at one point, an ObviousBeta entry on the main page) that was almost entirely due to ZSNES inaccurately emulating the game. Battles also ran twice as fast, which gave the impression of the game being much harder than it actually was.

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* {{Misblamed}}: MisBlamed: While it's not exactly the height of polish either way, the game garnered a reputation for being glitch-ridden and crash prone (including, at one point, an ObviousBeta entry on the main page) that was almost entirely due to ZSNES inaccurately emulating the game. Battles also ran twice as fast, which gave the impression of the game being much harder than it actually was.



** The party members from the past. They get to meet with everyone else again, but this time [[spoiler: they are FishOutOfTemporalWater.]] No private actions exist to have them react to the desolate world of Fargett, nor even the knowledge of what exists beyond their world.

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** The party members from the past. They get to meet with everyone else again, but this time [[spoiler: they are FishOutOfTemporalWater.]] FishOutOfTemporalWater]]. No private actions exist to have them react to the desolate world of Fargett, nor even the knowledge of what exists beyond their world.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The Calnus' doctor talks about curing the virus with a vaccine. Except that's not how vaccines work. Vaccines don't cure disease; they prevent someone from contracting a given disease to begin with, but are useless if you're already infected.

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* LowTierLetdown:
** Ronyx is a prominent and good character in story, what with being the first known Kenny family member (he's not the chronologically first within the timeline though, that would be [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]]) and the father of the hero of [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory the second game]], but players tend to be less inclined to use him due to his awkward play style (a marksman that uses magic, turning him into a MasterOfNone). This even carries over to ''[[VideoGame/StarOceanAnamnesis Anamnesis]]'', where he's once again a bottom tier character.
** Phia is typically placed in the lower tiers. She can only equip 1 accessory, which makes a huge difference come endgame/postgame, and most of her attacks have long delays that leave her quite vulnerable. Her best moves come from her Gods of War SFT, but should you recruit her by breaking her out of jail you are completely unable to obtain it, crippling her even further in terms of usefulness compared to the other party members.



* TierInducedScrappy:
** Ronyx is a prominent and good character in story, what with being the first known Kenny family member (he's not the chronologically first within the timeline though, that would be [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheLastHope Stephen]]) and the father of the hero of [[VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory the second game]], but players tend to be less inclined to use him due to his awkward play style (a marksman that uses magic, turning him into a MasterOfNone). This even carries over to ''[[VideoGame/StarOceanAnamnesis Anamnesis]]'', where he's once again a bottom tier character.
** Phia is typically placed in the lower tiers. She can only equip 1 accessory, which makes a huge difference come endgame/postgame, and most of her attacks have long delays that leave her quite vulnerable. Her best moves come from her Gods of War SFT, but should you recruit her by breaking her out of jail you are completely unable to obtain it, crippling her even further in terms of usefulness compared to the other party members.
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* FanNickname: Sometimes fans likes to affectionally reverse Roddick's name into '[=DickRod=]'
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: How some people view the remakes of being. Rather than AdaptationExpansion, the remake(s) were straight up adaptation but with more polish added. Its main critique is its length, and this was kept in the remake with Fargett only being a few areas with all CharacterDevelopment brought to a ''halt''.


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** Similarly, only one character (Pericci) has a private action in Fargett. The idea of [[spoiler: Bringing characters ''to their future'']] never gets touched upon otherwise.
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Covid shoehorn.


* HarsherInHindsight: The plot kicks off with a plague that is spread by close contact, with Millie's father contracting it while trying to heal others, and Dorne catching it from a carrier pigeon. In one scene, Millie sobs that she can't even hold her father's hand as the disease claims him. This storyline gains new relevance with the COVID-19 pandemic. As an added coincidence, the Switch port of the game was released on December 5, 2019, just four days after the estimated beginning of the RealLife pandemic.
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** The Muah Treasury. Despite the (temporary) high end gear you're given throughout the dungeon, the Shadow Beasts and Stirges found there can rip players a new one due to their fast attacks, their unusually high damage output, and the fact that they often come in swarms. Gets even worse with the boss, where she has ''seven Shadow Beasts backing her up in the fight''.

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** The Muah Treasury. Despite the (temporary) high end high-end gear you're given throughout the dungeon, the Shadow Beasts and Stirges found there can rip players a new one due to their fast attacks, their unusually high damage output, and the fact that they often come in swarms. Gets even worse with the boss, where she has ''seven Shadow Beasts backing her up in the fight''.



** T'nique... but only the SFC version. He appears in no private actions in that game, meaning he [[CanonShadow essentially is just a bonus character]]. This was averted in the remake, where he is still a SecretCharacter, but he gets to interact with others in private actions.

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** T'nique... but only the SFC version. He appears in no private actions in that game, meaning he [[CanonShadow [[GameplayAndStorySegregation essentially is just a bonus character]]. This was averted in the remake, where he is still a SecretCharacter, but he gets to interact with others in private actions.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus is that the game (both the SNES and PSP versions) is considered decent to mediocre, with unrefined gameplay and weaker characters compared to later entries. While the later half of the game is maligned for how rushed it is, it doesn't compare to the backlash of the [[VideoGame/StarOceanTillTheEndOfTime third game's]] PlotTwist.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Alucard (Robert Belgrade) from ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight'' doing the voice of the captain in the opening scene!

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Alucard (Robert Belgrade) from ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight'' doing the voice of the captain in the opening scene!scene of the Super Famicom version!
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* DifficultySpike: Moving from the Astral Continent to the Van region of the Silvalant Continent in the remake is when the gloves come off as enemies will start dealing triple-digit damage on a regular basis and store-bought equipment falls behind the curve.

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