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* {{Misblamed}}: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Creator/{{JAST}} USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of JAST USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of JAST USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* GameBreakingBug: The English version of Shiny Days, as it was originally released, had a particularly nasty one. Completing Manami's ending and saving afterwards would result in a corrupted global save file that rendered the game unplayable until the file itself was deleted, which in turn would wipe all progress. This has thankfully been addressed in a patch.
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* IdiotPlot: Occasionally, the story depends on people being completely stupid.
** Like Makoto asking to see Kiyoura, saying Youko's name and then being completely unable to convince anyone that he really did mean the girl that isn't old enough to be his mother. And not only does Youko go along with this, she actually jumps him immediately just about as soon as he enters and fails to see Setsuna.
** Later, Makoto says he won't be able to talk for a moment but if Setsuna has something to say he'll listen. He then leaves without telling her, so when she confesses she thinks he silently rejected her. The sheer stupidity surrounding the rest of the events here are almost as bad.
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* {{Misblamed}}: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.

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* {{Misblamed}}: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast ''Creator/{{JAST}} USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast JAST USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast JAST USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.

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* ScapegoatCreator: {{Misblamed}}: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: More so than the [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays original game]], seeing as the {{Yandere}} and murderous tendencies have been (mostly) done away with in favor of non-lethal, slice of life style backstabbing and betrayal. Odds are if someone's playing this game, they're playing it to see Makoto get it on with one of the several love interests he can encounter.
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* GameBreakingBug: The English version of Shiny Days, as it was originally released, had a particularly nasty one. Completing Manami's ending and saving afterwards would result in a corrupted global save file that rendered the game unplayable until the file itself was deleted, which in turn would wipe all progress. This has thankfully been addressed in a patch.
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* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lifes, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.

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* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lifes, lives, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them, though that was for legal reasons (see below), then they did allow restoring them with a patch and indeed fully uncensored.]]



* LemonStu: Makoto, arguably. While in [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays School Days]], the heroines had various reasons for being attracted to Makoto, here, girls fall into his lap with virually no explanation. He's not even that attractive; he's just a [[{{TheGadfly}} callous gadfly]] who likes [[HandsomeLech hardcore sex.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Makoto tries to inoke this trope in one ending. [[spoiler: After manipulating numerous heroines into sleeping with him, Setsuna finally realizes she's being played for a fool and confronts him about it. She comes across a naked Makoto and Sekai, prompting the former to [[LargeHam offer his hand and requests Setsuna "Join" them.]]]] [[spoiler: Setsuna promptly [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome kicks him in the face.]]]]



* ShipToShipCombat: When an [[EnsembleDarkhorse ensemble darkhorse like Setsuna]] has about as many routes as fan favorite newcomer, Inori, you KNOW there's going to be fireworks.
* ShockingSwerve [[spoiler: Although the game tries to play it off as raging hormones, Makoto unrepentantly raping Kokoro in FOUR DIFFERENT SCENES is given virtually no build-up or explanation.]]
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Lolicon and shotacon have been disambiguated. Links with too little context are being removed - "paedo" is not always a trope, examples where the tropeworthiness is unclear are being removed. Also, please do not use "loli" as a synonym for little girl; see Lolicon And Shotacon as to why not


* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because {{Lolicon}} content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lifes, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.

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* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because {{Lolicon}} LoliconAndShotacon content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lifes, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them (though that was for legal reasons, see below, and they did allow restoring them with a patch and indeed fully uncensored.]]

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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them (though them, though that was for legal reasons, see below, and reasons (see below), then they did allow restoring them with a patch and indeed fully uncensored.]]
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them.]]

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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them.them (though that was for legal reasons, see below, and they did allow restoring them with a patch and indeed fully uncensored.]]



* StoicWoobie: Setsuna. [[ObliviousToLove Whether it's Makoto unknowingly leading her on]], or Inori acting like a needy grade schooler, Setsuna NEVER loses her calm, quiet demeanor. Even in her worst moods, she waits until she's alone to break down and cry.

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* StoicWoobie: Setsuna. [[ObliviousToLove Whether it's Makoto unknowingly leading her on]], or Inori acting like a needy grade schooler, Setsuna NEVER loses her calm, quiet demeanor. Even in her worst moods, she waits until she's alone to break down and cry.
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them and the promised official uncut patch remains VaporWare.]]

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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones somewhat kills the mood in them. Then the English translation removed them and the promised official uncut patch remains VaporWare.them.]]
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* ScapegoatCreator: While most of the game is uncensored, the English translation by ''Jast USA'' was initially buggy and had the scenes with Kokoro and her friend (both underage characters) removed. While the former is the fault of Jast USA's quality check team not doing their job, the latter ''is not'' the fault of Jast USA, but an issue with laws in other countries where the game may be sold. This is because {{Lolicon}} content, unlike Child Pornography, falls under the protection of the US American constitution as artistic expression, but in countries like Australia or the UK they are considered the same thing, thus illegal. So to get the game sold officially at all and not make their customers risk their own lifes, Jast USA had to remove that content. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Jast made the most money by selling articles of Kokoro herself and still did after the game's release.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Youko not wanting to change the Radish Uniforms might not seem much at first, but if you played Summer Radish Vacation then you will remember that [[spoiler:those were probably designed by her late older sister Kagura Inou. Youko probably doesn't want to lost what her sister who was the founder of Summer Radish had created.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Youko not wanting to change the Radish Uniforms might not seem much at first, but if you played Summer Radish Vacation then you will remember that [[spoiler:those were probably designed by her late older sister Kagura Inou. Youko probably doesn't want to lost what her sister who was the founder of Summer Radish had created.]] In similar vein, her craving for Makoto's affection becomes much more tragic when you remembered that [[spoiler:she never got to be number one in anyone's heart, be it Ayumu or Shun.]]
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones kind of kills what little appeal some might have found in her scenes.]]

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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones kind of somewhat kills what little appeal some might have found the mood in her scenes.them. Then the English translation removed them and the promised official uncut patch remains VaporWare.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: Youko not wanting to change the Radish Uniforms might not seem much at first, but if you played Summer Radish Vacation then you will remember that [[spoiler:those were probably designed by her late older sister Kagura Inou. Youko probably doesn't want to lost what her sister who was the founder of Summer Radish had created.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Makoto tries to inoke this in one ending. [[spoiler After manipulating numerous heroines into sleeping with him, Setsuna finally realizes she's being played for a fool and confronts him about it. She comes across a naked Makoto and Sekai, prompting the former [[LargeHam offers his hand and requests Setsuna "Join" them.]]]] [[spoiler: Setsuna promptly [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome kicks him in the face.]]]]

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* MagnificentBastard: Makoto tries to inoke this trope in one ending. [[spoiler [[spoiler: After manipulating numerous heroines into sleeping with him, Setsuna finally realizes she's being played for a fool and confronts him about it. She comes across a naked Makoto and Sekai, prompting the former to [[LargeHam offers offer his hand and requests Setsuna "Join" them.]]]] [[spoiler: Setsuna promptly [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome kicks him in the face.]]]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Makoto tries to inoke this in one ending. [[spoiler After manipulating numerous heroines into sleeping with him, Setsuna finally realizes she's being played for a fool and confronts him about it. She comes across a naked Makoto and Sekai, prompting the former [[LargeHam offers his hand and requests Setsuna "Join" them.]]]] [[spoiler: Setsuna promptly [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome kicks him in the face.]]]]
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* FetishRetardant: [[spoiler: The fact that all of Kokoro's h scenes have rape undertones kind of kills what little appeal some might have found in her scenes.]]


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* ShipToShipCombat: When an [[EnsembleDarkhorse ensemble darkhorse like Setsuna]] has about as many routes as fan favorite newcomer, Inori, you KNOW there's going to be fireworks.
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* LemonStu: Makoto, arguably. While in [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays: School Days]], the heroines had various reasons for being attracted to Makoto, here, girls fall into his lap with virually no explanation. He's not even that attractive; he's just a [[{{TheGadfly}} callous gadfly]] who likes [[HandsomeLech: hardcore sex.]]

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* LemonStu: Makoto, arguably. While in [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays: [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays School Days]], the heroines had various reasons for being attracted to Makoto, here, girls fall into his lap with virually no explanation. He's not even that attractive; he's just a [[{{TheGadfly}} callous gadfly]] who likes [[HandsomeLech: [[HandsomeLech hardcore sex.]]
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* LemonStu: Makoto, arguably. While in [[VisualNovel/SchoolDays: School Days]], the heroines had various reasons for being attracted to Makoto, here, girls fall into his lap with virually no explanation. He's not even that attractive; he's just a [[{{TheGadfly}} callous gadfly]] who likes [[HandsomeLech: hardcore sex.]]
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** Later, Makoto says he won't be able to talk for a moment but if Setsuna has something to say he'll listen. He then leaves without telling her, so when she confesses she thinks he silently rejected her. The sheer stupidity surrounding the rest of the events here are almost as bad.

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** Later, Makoto says he won't be able to talk for a moment but if Setsuna has something to say he'll listen. He then leaves without telling her, so when she confesses she thinks he silently rejected her. The sheer stupidity surrounding the rest of the events here are almost as bad.bad.
* ShockingSwerve [[spoiler: Although the game tries to play it off as raging hormones, Makoto unrepentantly raping Kokoro in FOUR DIFFERENT SCENES is given virtually no build-up or explanation.]]
* StoicWoobie: Setsuna. [[ObliviousToLove Whether it's Makoto unknowingly leading her on]], or Inori acting like a needy grade schooler, Setsuna NEVER loses her calm, quiet demeanor. Even in her worst moods, she waits until she's alone to break down and cry.
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* IdiotPlot: Occasionally, the story depends on people being completely stupid.
** Like Makoto asking to see Kiyoura, saying Youko's name and then being completely unable to convince anyone that he really did mean the girl that isn't old enough to be his mother. And not only does Youko go along with this, she actually jumps him immediately just about as soon as he enters and fails to see Setsuna.
** Later, Makoto says he won't be able to talk for a moment but if Setsuna has something to say he'll listen. He then leaves without telling her, so when she confesses she thinks he silently rejected her. The sheer stupidity surrounding the rest of the events here are almost as bad.

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