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%%** Succubus.
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%%** Maria.
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* CommonKnowledge: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aEPyh-vdfg This track]] is often listed as the FinalBoss' first phase theme, even though it actually plays during the fights against [[PreFinalBoss Maria and Lucifer]].
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* CommonKnowledge: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aEPyh-vdfg This track]] is often listed as the FinalBoss' first phase theme, even though it actually plays during the fights against [[PreFinalBoss Maria and Lucifer]]. This seems to originate from it being mislabeled on the [=OST=], with people re-uploading it on Website/YouTube repeating the mistake.
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Per TRS.
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%%** Maria.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Even by ''Megaten'' standards the story can get... weird.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Even by ''Megaten'' standards the story can get... weird.
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%%** Maria.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Even by ''Megaten'' standards the story can get... weird.Maria.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Even by ''Megaten'' standards the story can get... weird.
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** Drive Shot. It's a fairly unremarkable attack on its own, but for whatever reason, [[GameBreakingBug it causes emulators to crash]], turning any fight where enemies or allies use this skill into a LuckBasedMission.
** Most combo skills are ridiculously overpowered when used by the player, but they're just as powerful when used by enemies, to the point where it's not uncommon to get wiped by groups of enemies that could otherwise only deal ScratchDamage.
** Most combo skills are ridiculously overpowered when used by the player, but they're just as powerful when used by enemies, to the point where it's not uncommon to get wiped by groups of enemies that could otherwise only deal ScratchDamage.
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** Drive Shot. It's a fairly unremarkable attack on its own, but for whatever reason, [[GameBreakingBug Anything that inflicts Close, especially if it causes emulators targets the entire party. In addition to crash]], turning any fight where enemies or allies use this skill into a LuckBasedMission.
sealing your magic, Close can stack with other status ailments, which can be especially annoying if your healers get Closed.
**Most combo skills [[CombinationAttack Combo attacks]] are ridiculously overpowered incredibly powerful when used by the player, but they're just as powerful and that doesn't change when used by enemies, to the point where it's enemy uses them. It's not uncommon to get wiped by groups of for enemies that could otherwise are only deal ScratchDamage.capable of dealing ScratchDamage with their normal attacks to [[TotalPartyKill obliterate entire parties]] when they start using combos, especially in the early game.
*** Combos that use physical attacks are even worse -- besides their absurd damage output, they often have a variety of nasty side effects, such as debuffs, status effects, or even instant death.
** ''Mad Tea Party'', used by Alice. It inflicts Sleep, Panic, or Charm on the entire party, which can potentially leave your entire party either immobilized or beating each other up. You do have [[TheMedic Mubiora or Miranda]] helping you, so the ailments usually don't last long, but it does prolong an already fairly drawn-out fight.
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*** Combos that use physical attacks are even worse -- besides their absurd damage output, they often have a variety of nasty side effects, such as debuffs, status effects, or even instant death.
** ''Mad Tea Party'', used by Alice. It inflicts Sleep, Panic, or Charm on the entire party, which can potentially leave your entire party either immobilized or beating each other up. You do have [[TheMedic Mubiora or Miranda]] helping you, so the ailments usually don't last long, but it does prolong an already fairly drawn-out fight.
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** Yamata-no-Orochi start appearing within the Shibuya 1009 building near the end of the game, and they're quite the force to be reckoned with. They can attack many times in one turn with powerful, multi-target physical attacks like Mow Down or Squash, dealing a lot of damage in the process, and also have a passive skill that disables yours. Naturally, [[ThatOneBoss Maria]] summons one during her boss fight.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans who have knowledge of the game's story doesn't consider this game canon to the first and second SMT games due to the events of the latter half of the game that would not make sense leading up to SMT 2 (ex, humanity being extinct and were cloned, Lucifer being incased in ice for reasons unexplained and there's a choice to leave him trapped). And due to Atlus not acknowledging NINE due to its poor performance and gameplay and hasn't got a re-release since, making it hard to properly play the game, it is widely agreed that it should be forgotten.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans who have knowledge of the game's story doesn't consider this game canon to the first DemonicSpiders:
** If you accept Tsuzumi's request andsecond SMT games due go to the events of the latter half of the game that would not make sense leading up to SMT 2 (ex, humanity being extinct Ikebukuro in Chapter 2, you may encounter Harpies. They're fast and were cloned, Lucifer being incased are usually found in ice for reasons unexplained and there's a choice groups of three, which potentially allows them to leave him trapped). And due to Atlus not acknowledging NINE due to its poor performance and gameplay and hasn't got a re-release since, making it hard to properly play the game, it is widely agreed that it should be forgotten.one-shot your entire party with Spike Claw before you can even move.
** If you accept Tsuzumi's request and
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* GoddamnedBoss:
** During Chapter 3, you fight multiple groups of Gaias [sic] and their Legions. The first one is fairly straightforward, but the second one can get annoying fast. You have 8 targets to defeat, and while they don't deal much damage on their own, they make up for it in stunlocking capability -- the Gaias use Happy Trigger to inflict Panic on the entire party, while the Legions spam Panic Voice and Fool's Voice. It's entirely possible to end up spending entire turns with a majority of your party immobilized.
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* MemeticMutation: "NINE? We're still waiting for [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV Five]]!"
** During Chapter 3, you fight multiple groups of Gaias [sic] and their Legions. The first one is fairly straightforward, but the second one can get annoying fast. You have 8 targets to defeat, and while they don't deal much damage on their own, they make up for it in stunlocking capability -- the Gaias use Happy Trigger to inflict Panic on the entire party, while the Legions spam Panic Voice and Fool's Voice. It's entirely possible to end up spending entire turns with a majority of your party immobilized.
%%** Alice
* MemeticMutation: "NINE? We're still waiting for [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV Five]]!"
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* GoddamnedBoss:
**GoddamnedBoss: During Chapter 3, you fight multiple groups of Gaias [sic] and their Legions. The first one is fairly straightforward, but the second one can get annoying fast. You have 8 targets to defeat, and while they don't deal much damage on their own, they make up for it in stunlocking capability -- the Gaias use Happy Trigger to inflict Panic on the entire party, while the Legions spam Panic Voice and Fool's Voice. It's entirely possible to end up spending entire turns with a majority of your party immobilized.
%%** Alice
* MemeticMutation: "NINE? We're still waiting for [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV Five]]!"immobilized.
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%%** Alice
* MemeticMutation: "NINE? We're still waiting for [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV Five]]!"
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* OldShame: In spite of being the very first game in the Megami Tensei series to be in 3D and being set in between SMT 1 and 2, Atlus has not acknowledged it's existence since release and wasn't included in anniversary celebrations with only Maria who debuted in this game getting future appearances as NINE's only reference. Doesn't help with not getting a re-release, sales not meeting expectations, the removal of the promised online functions, had not been localized for the West, the game's experimental gameplay that most players find unfun and no indication of fans wanting to do a translation as of now, it is unlikely Atlus would ever look at the game again.
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* Fanon Discontinuity: Many fans who have knowledge of the game's story doesn't consider this game canon to the first and second SMT games due to the events of the latter half of the game that would not make sense leading up to SMT 2 (ex, humanity being extinct and were cloned, Lucifer being incased in ice for reasons unexplained and there's a choice to leave him trapped). And due to Atlus not acknowledging NINE due to its poor performance and gameplay and hasn't got a re-release since, making it hard to properly play the game, it is widely agreed that it should be forgotten.
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* Fanon Discontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans who have knowledge of the game's story doesn't consider this game canon to the first and second SMT games due to the events of the latter half of the game that would not make sense leading up to SMT 2 (ex, humanity being extinct and were cloned, Lucifer being incased in ice for reasons unexplained and there's a choice to leave him trapped). And due to Atlus not acknowledging NINE due to its poor performance and gameplay and hasn't got a re-release since, making it hard to properly play the game, it is widely agreed that it should be forgotten.
