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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where the Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves without thinking of ''VideoGame/Persona4''.
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* SignatureScene: A lot of them.
** Sakura meeting Shinjiro in Ueno Park in the game's prologue.
** Shinjiro's arrival in New York City.
** Geminine attacking the robbers stealing the bank's money.
** Shinjiro saving Ratchet from certain death at Ranmaru's hands towards the end of chapter 1, as well as Ratchet asking him to lead the Star Division in her stead.
** Cheiron using her old bike to ram it into Kokuryu in Chapter 2.
** Rosita's confrontation with bank robbers and showing her gold and silver guns.
** Diana rescuing a falling bird in chapter 3.
** Geminine's confrontation with Shinjiro in chapter 6.
** Oda Nobunaga's revival and his summoning of Sixth Heaven.
** The Ahab ramming into Azuchi Castle during the final battle.
** The final duel with Shinjiro and Nobunaga and its aftermath, complete with Azuchi Castle becoming cherry blossoms at the end of it all.
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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: The English localization is said have been [[Creator/NipponIchi NIS America's]] biggest undertaking to date. To start, more than 70,000 lines of written dialogue and 10,000 voice samples had to be translated, which was far greater than any other localization in their history. A Wii port was commissioned to Idea Factory just for the North American release. To somewhat minimize the inevitable SubbingVersusDubbing debate, the game's first run shipped with two discs for the [=PS2=] version, one containing the English dub and the other with the original Japanese audio (both otherwise containing the same game). Subsequent shipments, if any, would only contain the English audio disk; but given how large the voice data is that two dubs apparently couldn't be included on one disc, they could have easily left out one or the other entirely to begin with. In addition, [[{{Woolseyism}} some names were changed in the dub]], but the original names are preserved in text in the Japanese version, rather than simply sharing the same script. It speaks to NIS America's faith in the American ''VideoGame/SakuraWars'' fanbase that all of this effort was for a then-five-year-old game that consists mostly of DatingSim segments, a genre that had very little following in the Western market. Shame that Creator/{{Sega}} [[NoExportForYou couldn't be bothered to bring it over themselves]].
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* MagnificentBastard:
** UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga is a fierce [[DemonKingNobunaga demon lord]] whose might and strategic cunning has pushed New York into near complete conquest. A former Imperial general turned demon, Nobunaga in the past nearly destroyed and ruled over Japan until he was sealed away by the Five Ring Warriors. Having anticipated all of this, Nobunaga entrusts a plan to revive him to his most loyal servant Ranmaru. Upon reawakening, Nobunaga plunges New York into demonic hellscape using his sheer power and tactics with the demon army, even crippling the Combat Revue with a clever trap by sacrificing Ranmaru to eliminate Shinya. When Shinya returns and leads the group into the final battle against him, Nobunaga faces them with all head on, nearly winning multiple times through his many strategies and unyielding will, till the end and upon defeat graciously accepts a deal with Shinya to view the world in his eyes, giving him a chance to prove Nobunaga's brutal views wrong.
** Ranmaru is the most faithful servant of Nobunaga who, through his wit, was able to manipulate all sides in bringing back his beloved master. As the leader of Nobunaga's guard, Ranmaru leads his group into spreading chaos all over New York, unbeknownst to the New York Combat Revue, in a ploy to complete Nobunaga's prophecy. Preparing it for years in advance, Ranmaru is able to manipulate his allies and enemies alike into accomplishing his goal, even nearly defeating the entire Combat Revue, putting Ratchet out of commission and almost electrifying them all to death before faking surrender to work in the shadows. With his master's return, Ranmaru leads the charge to his invasion, nearly trapping the Combat Revue in a dark vortex. Faking his death again, Ranmaru ambushes Shinya and sacrifices himself so his master can eliminate him, dying praising his lord.
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* WhatAnIdiot: See [[WhatAnIdiot/SakuraWars here]].
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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: The English localization is said have been [[Creator/NipponIchi NIS America's]] biggest undertaking to date. To start, more than 70,000 lines of written dialogue and 10,000 voice samples had to be translated, which was far greater than any other localization in their history. A Wii port was commissioned to Idea Factory just for the North American release. To somewhat minimize the inevitable SubbingVersusDubbing debate, the game's first run shipped with two discs for the [=PS2=] version, one containing the English dub and the other with the original Japanese audio (both otherwise containing the same game). Subsequent shipments, if any, would only contain the English audio disk; but given how large the voice data is that two dubs apparently couldn't be included on one disc, they could have easily left out one or the other entirely to begin with. In addition, [[{{Woolseyism}} some names were changed in the dub]], but the original names are preserved in text in the Japanese version, rather than simply sharing the same script. It speaks to NIS America's faith in the American ''VideoGame/SakuraWars'' fanbase that all of this effort was for a then-five-year-old game that consists mostly of DatingSim segments, a genre that had very little following in the Western market. Shame that Creator/{{Sega}} [[NoExportForYou couldn't be bothered to bring it over themselves]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: See [[WhatAnIdiot/SakuraWars here].

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* WhatAnIdiot: See [[WhatAnIdiot/SakuraWars here].here]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: See [[WhatAnIdiot/SakuraWars here].
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* EndingFatigue: Chapter 8 is long, ''very'' long, and consists of no less than three major battles that are lengthy in their own rights with the first one of them being the most difficult. Players who initially stated their interests in obtaining every ending or playing NewGamePlus said they changed their minds after realizing they'd have to do Chapter 8 again every time.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking to watch given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves all of the original combat revues being wiped out during the Great Demon War.
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* ThatOneLevel: The first fight of chapter 8 brings with it a huge DifficultySpike for the endgame. You have to [[HoldTheLine defend the Ahab's engines]] from wave after wave of enemies until it rises to a certain altitude. There's very little room for error as said engines don't have much health at all and since it's a combination of both land and flight combat, you're going to have to spread your units very thin.
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** The final duel with Shinjiro and Nobunaga and its aftermath, complete with Azuchi Castle becoming cherry blossoms at the end of it all.
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** Shinjiro saving Ratchet from certain death at Ranmaru's hands towards the end of chapter 1, as well as Ratchet asking him to lead the Star Division in her stead.
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* SignatureScene: A lot of them.
** Sakura meeting Shinjiro in Ueno Park in the game's prologue.
** Shinjiro's arrival in New York City.
** Geminine attacking the robbers stealing the bank's money.
** Cheiron using her old bike to ram it into Kokuryu in Chapter 2.
** Rosita's confrontation with bank robbers and showing her gold and silver guns.
** Diana rescuing a falling bird in chapter 3.
** Geminine's confrontation with Shinjiro in chapter 6.
** Oda Nobunaga's revival and his summoning of Sixth Heaven.
** The Ahab ramming into Azuchi Castle during the final battle.
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* OneSceneWonder: Sakura Shinguji and Ichiro Ogami's appearance in the game's prologue.

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* OneSceneWonder: Sakura Shinguji and Ichiro Ogami's appearance in the game's prologue.prologue, where they send Shinjiro off to New York City.
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* OneSceneWonder: Sakura Shinguji and Ichiro Ogami's appearance in the game's prologue.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where [[spoiler: The Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves]] without thinking of ''VideoGame/Persona4''.
* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder at the hands of Ranmaru marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where [[spoiler: The the Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves]] selves without thinking of ''VideoGame/Persona4''.
* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: Geminine. She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder at the hands of Ranmaru marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]again.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves all of the original combat revues being wiped out during the Great Demon War.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking to watch given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves all of the original combat revues being wiped out during the Great Demon War.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves the revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War along with the Imperial and Paris Combat Revues.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves all of the revue original combat revues being wiped out during the Great Demon War along with the Imperial and Paris Combat Revues.War.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the the revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].War along with the Imperial and Paris Combat Revues.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the New York Combat Revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot of the New York Combat Revue at the end of the game can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the New York Combat Revue revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game becomes more poignant to see, given the backstory ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the New York Combat Revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game becomes more poignant to see, can be heartbreaking given the backstory of ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the New York Combat Revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game becomes more poignant knowing what fate awaits them two years later in ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars''.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game becomes more poignant knowing what fate awaits them two years later in ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars''.to see, given the backstory ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars'' involves [[spoiler:the New York Combat Revue being wiped out during the Great Demon War]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: The final group shot at the end of the game becomes more poignant knowing what fate awaits them two years later in ''VideoGame/ShinSakuraWars''.



* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to at the events hands of the game Ranmaru marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where [[spoiler: The Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves]] without thinking of [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4]].
* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]
* WhatAnIdiot: YMMV a lot on NISA for selling the fifth game with no sure degree of success in the same month that ''Final Fantasy XIII'' came out. On the other hand, it did get a lot of good reviews including an award from [=IGN=].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where [[spoiler: The Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves]] without thinking of [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4]].
''VideoGame/Persona4''.
* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]
* WhatAnIdiot: YMMV a lot on NISA for selling the fifth game with no sure degree of success in the same month that ''Final Fantasy XIII'' came out. On the other hand, it did get a lot of good reviews including an award from [=IGN=].
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* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Just try and play the part in ''So Long, My Love'' where [[spoiler: The Star Division members are confronted by their dark selves]] without thinking of [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4]].
* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]]]
* WhatAnIdiot: YMMV a lot on NISA for selling the fifth game with no sure degree of success in the same month that ''Final Fantasy XIII'' came out. On the other hand, it did get a lot of good reviews including an award from [=IGN=].
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* JerkassWoobie: Gemini[[spoiler:ne]]. [[spoiler: She is violent, arrogant and an overall jerkass who is more than willing to indulge in DisproportionateRetribution, to say nothing of her attempt at SplitPersonalityTakeover... And also a completely broken individual whose very existence was unknown to everyone, including her own parents. The one person to realize she and Gemini were different identities was her beloved master, whose murder prior to the events of the game marks her StartOfDarkness. Geminine breaks down in tears after Shinjiro makes her see how far she has fallen, and, by the end of the chapter, she decides not to interfere with Gemini's life again.]]

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