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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely psycological. With greater awareness of how psychological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.

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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely psycological.psychological. With greater awareness of how psychological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.

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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely psycological. With greater awareness of how psychological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.

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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely psycological. With greater awareness of how psychological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.him.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Phil made Ronnie the face of The Ronettes, and she has continued to serve as it post-breakup.
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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely physiological. With greater awareness of how physiological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.

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* ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely physiological. psycological. With greater awareness of how physiological psychological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.
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** ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely physiological. With greater awareness of how physiological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.

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** * ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely physiological. With greater awareness of how physiological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.
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** Ronnie's singing and stage presence was unique in the early 1960s; Her willingness to wear "trashy" clothes and makeup and utilize her sex appeal as part of both her act and public image was revolutionary in a time when the trope FemalesAreMoreInnocent dominated American culture. This combined with Phil Spector's innovative "Wall of Sound" production centered around Ronnie's voice made The Ronettes a truly groundbreaking act. Ronnie became the TropeCodifier for a female pop/rock singer, made "ghetto" fashion trendy and helped redefine the image of women in general as subsequent female singers and female characters in the media copied her image and attitude. As the rise of hip-hop brought ghetto culture further into the mainstream and acts like Music/{{Madonna}} took the sex appeal angle UpToEleven, by the mid-1980s the Ronettes had become a quaint oldies act that was mainly remembered for singing ChristmasMusic.

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** Ronnie's singing and stage presence was unique in the early 1960s; Her willingness to wear "trashy" clothes and makeup and utilize her sex appeal as part of both her act and public image was revolutionary in a time when the trope FemalesAreMoreInnocent dominated American culture. This combined with Phil Spector's innovative "Wall of Sound" production centered around Ronnie's voice made The Ronettes a truly groundbreaking act. Ronnie became the TropeCodifier for a female pop/rock singer, made "ghetto" fashion trendy and helped redefine the image of women in general as subsequent female singers and female characters in the media copied her image and attitude. As the rise of hip-hop brought ghetto culture further into the mainstream and acts like Music/{{Madonna}} took the sex appeal angle UpToEleven, to the point of exaggeration, by the mid-1980s the Ronettes had become a quaint oldies act that was mainly remembered for singing ChristmasMusic.ChristmasSongs.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** Her memoirs ''Be My Baby'' became a lot harder to read after Phil Spector murdered Lana Clarkson. We now know Phil was capable of crossing that line and when she describes de-escalating situations where Phil was frothing at the mouth, her life may have been genuinely hanging in the balance. Ronnie herself recounted how she feared being murdered by Phil, even years after they divorced.
** Seeing her constantly having a cigarette in hand given that she died of cancer.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As The Ronettes are the TropeCodifier for a GirlGroup, they have been so extensively copied by both real and fictional musicians over the past 50+ years to the point that people today may struggle to understand why they're Hall of Famers or why hearing "Be My Baby" on the radio forever changed Brian Wilson's life.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** Ronnie's singing and stage presence was unique in the early 1960s; Her willingness to wear "trashy" clothes and makeup and utilize her sex appeal as part of both her act and public image was revolutionary in a time when the trope FemalesAreMoreInnocent dominated American culture. This combined with Phil Spector's innovative "Wall of Sound" production centered around Ronnie's voice made
The Ronettes are a truly groundbreaking act. Ronnie became the TropeCodifier for a GirlGroup, they have been so extensively female pop/rock singer, made "ghetto" fashion trendy and helped redefine the image of women in general as subsequent female singers and female characters in the media copied her image and attitude. As the rise of hip-hop brought ghetto culture further into the mainstream and acts like Music/{{Madonna}} took the sex appeal angle UpToEleven, by the mid-1980s the Ronettes had become a quaint oldies act that was mainly remembered for singing ChristmasMusic.
** When ''Be My Baby'' was released in 1990, relationships were generally seen as not crossing the line into DomesticAbuse until one person begins physically harming another. Ronnie's vivid description of a horribly abusive relationship in which the abuse was purely psychological and the extremely negative effects it had on
both real her physical and fictional musicians over mental health was relatively groundbreaking at the past 50+ years time by how thoroughly it challenged this perception. Helping to the point that people today may struggle raise awareness of how there doesn't have to understand why they're Hall physical harm to constitute abuse is as a lesser-appreciated piece of Famers or why hearing "Be My Baby" on the radio forever changed Brian Wilson's life.her legacy.



** ''Biography'' notes the similarities don't end there, as [[https://www.biography.com/news/amy-winehouse-ronnie-spector-similarities there are many parallels]] to their lives off of the stage as well. Both started their careers as teenagers, both had short, turbulent, abusive marriages[[note]]Though Winehouse was to some extent the abuser[[/note]] and both were alcoholics. While Spector was able to overcome her alcoholism, Winehouse's drinking ultimately killed her at the age of 27.

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** ''Biography'' notes the similarities don't end there, as [[https://www.biography.com/news/amy-winehouse-ronnie-spector-similarities there are many parallels]] to their lives off of the stage as well. Both started their careers as teenagers, both had short, turbulent, abusive marriages[[note]]Though Winehouse was to some extent the abuser[[/note]] and both were alcoholics. While Spector was able to overcome her alcoholism, Winehouse's drinking ultimately killed her at the age of 27.27.
** ValuesResonance: As noted above, ''Be My Baby'' was ahead of its time with its depiction of an abusive relationship where the abuse was purely physiological. With greater awareness of how physiological abuse works in TheNewTwenties to the point that "Gaslighting" became Merriam-Webster's 2022 "Word of the Year", a lot of the situations she describes may hit harder for readers today than they did back in 1990. Additionally, with mental health being taken far more seriously today than it was in the early 1990s, present day readers can better understand and identify with the severely detrimental effects Phil's abuse had on her, even if she was never physically harmed by him.
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* AwardSnub: Phil Spector worked for decades to keep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from even considering inducting The Ronettes, even though they had been eligible for induction for about as long as the Hall had been open. It wasn't until after Phil fell from grace from Lana Clarkson's murder that The Ronettes finally got their long-awaited induction in 2007. It was good timing which allowed the public to see the original three Ronettes together one last time; Estelle Bennett died in 2009.

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* AwardSnub: Phil Spector worked for decades to keep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from even considering inducting The Ronettes, Ronettes even though they had been eligible for induction for about as long as the Hall had been open. It wasn't until after Phil fell from grace from Lana Clarkson's murder that The Ronettes finally got their long-awaited induction in 2007. It was good timing which allowed the public to see the original three Ronettes together one last time; Estelle Bennett died in 2009.



** Music/BrianWilson has gone on record to claim that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop record ever made. Music publications like [=AllMusic=] subsequently claimed that alone is good enough reason for the rest of us to say the same.

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** Music/BrianWilson has gone on record to claim that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop record ever made. Music publications like [=AllMusic=] subsequently claimed that alone is a good enough reason for the rest of us to say the same.



** While "Try Some, But Some" was written by Music/GeorgeHarrison, Spector recorded and released it first. The familiar version that Harrison performed himself didn't come out until a couple years later.

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** While "Try Some, But Some" was written by Music/GeorgeHarrison, Spector recorded and released it first. The familiar version that Harrison performed himself didn't come out until a couple of years later.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** According to Eddie Money, she was his for "Take Me Home Tonight". He was initially unhappy with the original draft of the song, feeling it was too sentimental and cheesy, so he reworked the chorus to instead be a callback to "Be My Baby" and came up with the idea of recruiting Spector to be a guest vocalist. It worked.
** Steven Van Zandt credits her for saving the E Street Band during the late 1970s, when he recruited her to serve as their vocalist and frontperson in Music/BruceSpringsteen's absence.
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* SignatureSong: "Be My Baby"

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* SignatureSong: "Be My Baby"Baby"
* SpiritualSuccessor: Music/AmyWinehouse succeeded in her dream of becoming the Ronnie Spector of the 21st century, all the way down to having a similar ShortLivedBigImpact career. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_EBt_E11VI&ab_channel=SoCalLiveitLive Hearing Ronnie cover an Amy Winehouse song]] showcases just how incredibly similar their voices and singing styles were.
** ''Biography'' notes the similarities don't end there, as [[https://www.biography.com/news/amy-winehouse-ronnie-spector-similarities there are many parallels]] to their lives off of the stage as well. Both started their careers as teenagers, both had short, turbulent, abusive marriages[[note]]Though Winehouse was to some extent the abuser[[/note]] and both were alcoholics. While Spector was able to overcome her alcoholism, Winehouse's drinking ultimately killed her at the age of 27.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** According to Eddie Money, she was his for "Take Me Home Tonight". He was initially unhappy with the original draft of the song, feeling it was too sentimental and cheesy, so he reworked the chorus to instead be a callback to "Be My Baby" and came up with the idea of recruiting Spector to be a guest vocalist. It worked.
** Steven Van Zandt credits her for saving the E Street Band during the late 1970s, when he recruited her to serve as their vocalist and frontperson in Music/BruceSpringsteen's absence.


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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: She was popular in the United Kingdom thanks to her connection to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, with a resurgence of public interest in her coming in the late 2000s thanks to Music/AmyWinehouse. She regularly performed in the UK and made appearances in the British media in TheNewTens. The BBC aired a feature-length tribute to her upon her death in January 2022.
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YMMV trope applied to somebody IRL, which is not allowed.


* SignatureSong: "Be My Baby"
* TheWoobie: It's impossible to learn about the horrendous abuse Phil Spector allegedly subjected her to during their marriage without feeling extremely sorry for her and wanting to give her a big hug.
** Made even worse when you consider how Phil intentionally tanked her career in the late 1960s and has done everything he possibly can to make her life difficult ever since. From withholding royalties, to working to keep The Ronettes out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, to making it difficult for Ronnie to perform any Ronettes material live.
** Ronnie received her first alimony payment in nickels. When the court turned around and told Phil that he can't do that, he responded by writing "Fuck Off!" on the back of every subsequent check he ever paid to Ronnie.

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* SignatureSong: "Be My Baby"
* TheWoobie: It's impossible to learn about the horrendous abuse Phil Spector allegedly subjected her to during their marriage without feeling extremely sorry for her and wanting to give her a big hug.
** Made even worse when you consider how Phil intentionally tanked her career in the late 1960s and has done everything he possibly can to make her life difficult ever since. From withholding royalties, to working to keep The Ronettes out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, to making it difficult for Ronnie to perform any Ronettes material live.
** Ronnie received her first alimony payment in nickels. When the court turned around and told Phil that he can't do that, he responded by writing "Fuck Off!" on the back of every subsequent check he ever paid to Ronnie.
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* EpicRiff: Her cover of "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" is underscored by an awesome saxophone riff courtesy of Clarence Clemons of the E Street Band.
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** "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" is an interesting example. It was originally a Billy Joel song and he cited Ronnie Spector as the main influence he looked to when writing it. It didn't go anywhere when released as a single off of his ''Turnstiles'' album, so Ronnie began covering it during live performances and recorded a version with the E Street Band which she released as a single a year later, which helped the song gain attention. It then became a hit in 1981.

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** "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" is an interesting example. It was originally a Billy Joel song and he cited Ronnie Spector as the main influence he looked to when writing it. It didn't go anywhere when released as a single off of his ''Turnstiles'' album, so Ronnie began covering it during live performances and recorded a version with the E Street Band which she released as a single a year later, which helped the song gain attention. It then became a hit in 1981. 1981 when Joel released a live version as a single.

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* CoveredUp: "I Can Hear Music" was originally a Ronettes song, released in 1966. It didn't become a hit until Music/TheBeachBoys covered it in 1969, and now their version is the one that everyone remembers.

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"I Can Hear Music" was originally a Ronettes song, released in 1966. It didn't become a hit until Music/TheBeachBoys covered it in 1969, and now their version is the one that everyone remembers.
** While "Try Some, But Some" was written by Music/GeorgeHarrison, Spector recorded and released it first. The familiar version that Harrison performed himself didn't come out until a couple years later.
** "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" is an interesting example. It was originally a Billy Joel song and he cited Ronnie Spector as the main influence he looked to when writing it. It didn't go anywhere when released as a single off of his ''Turnstiles'' album, so Ronnie began covering it during live performances and recorded a version with the E Street Band which she released as a single a year later, which helped the song gain attention. It then became a hit in 1981.
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** Fans of Music/TheRamones also show her a lot of respect as the band's cover of The Ronettes' "Baby I Love You" was a pretty big hit in the UK, and Joey Ramone was known to be a big fan. She even performed two Ramones songs on her ''She Talks To Rainbows'' EP released in 1999. Those tracks were the title track and "Bye Bye Baby" which is a duet Joey.

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** Fans of Music/TheRamones also show her a lot of respect as the band's cover of The Ronettes' "Baby I Love You" was a pretty big hit in the UK, and Joey Ramone was known to be a big fan. She even performed two Ramones songs on her ''She Talks To Rainbows'' EP released in 1999. Those tracks were the title track and "Bye Bye Baby" which is a duet with Joey.
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* FriendlyFandoms:
** Considering Brian Wilson is a lifelong fan of hers, and that he's stated that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop song ever written, she's pretty popular among Music/BeachBoys fans.
** Fans of Music/TheRamones also show her a lot of respect as the band's cover of The Ronettes' "Baby I Love You" was a pretty big hit in the UK, and Joey Ramone was known to be a big fan. She even performed two Ramones songs on her ''She Talks To Rainbows'' EP released in 1999. Those tracks were the title track and "Bye Bye Baby" which is a duet Joey.
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* SignatureSong: "Be My Baby"
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* FaceOfTheBand: Phil made Ronnie the face of The Ronettes, and she has continued to serve as it post-breakup.
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** Music/BrianWilson has gone on record to claim that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop record ever made. Music publications like [[=AllMusic=]] subsequently claimed that alone is good enough reason for the rest of us to say the same.

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** Music/BrianWilson has gone on record to claim that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop record ever made. Music publications like [[=AllMusic=]] [=AllMusic=] subsequently claimed that alone is good enough reason for the rest of us to say the same.
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* AwardSnub: Phil Spector worked for decades to keep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from even considering inducting The Ronettes, even though they had been eligible for induction for about as long as the Hall had been open. It wasn't until after Phil fell from grace from Lana Clarkson's murder that The Ronettes finally got their long-awaited induction in 2007. It was good timing which allowed the public to see the original three Ronettes together one last time; Estelle Bennett died in 2009.
* AwesomeMusic:
** Music/BrianWilson has gone on record to claim that "Be My Baby" is the greatest pop record ever made. Music publications like [[=AllMusic=]] subsequently claimed that alone is good enough reason for the rest of us to say the same.
** The Ronettes' cover of "Sleigh Ride" is the TropeCodifier for pop [[ChristmasSongs holiday music]] and continues to serve as the instructional manual for any pop singer seeking to make Christmas music.
* CoveredUp: "I Can Hear Music" was originally a Ronettes song, released in 1966. It didn't become a hit until Music/TheBeachBoys covered it in 1969, and now their version is the one that everyone remembers.
* JustHereForGodzilla: Most people today only know The Ronettes for their ChristmasSongs.
* {{Moe}}: [[https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/american-singer-ronnie-spector-formerly-lead-singer-of-the-ronettes-picture-id636662133?k=6&m=636662133&s=612x612&w=0&h=ADNJvgIOPEngjv6lRKeObz8AijIKFpqj6b02tmZw_hs= Young Ronnie Spector]] during her Ronettes years was an absolute cutie who exuded this trope in spades. It helps to make her an even bigger Woobie when you learn about the horrendous kinds of abuse and torture Phil Spector allegedly put her through.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As The Ronettes are the TropeCodifier for a GirlGroup, they have been so extensively copied by both real and fictional musicians over the past 50+ years to the point that people today may struggle to understand why they're Hall of Famers or why hearing "Be My Baby" on the radio forever changed Brian Wilson's life.
* TheWoobie: It's impossible to learn about the horrendous abuse Phil Spector allegedly subjected her to during their marriage without feeling extremely sorry for her and wanting to give her a big hug.
** Made even worse when you consider how Phil intentionally tanked her career in the late 1960s and has done everything he possibly can to make her life difficult ever since. From withholding royalties, to working to keep The Ronettes out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, to making it difficult for Ronnie to perform any Ronettes material live.
** Ronnie received her first alimony payment in nickels. When the court turned around and told Phil that he can't do that, he responded by writing "Fuck Off!" on the back of every subsequent check he ever paid to Ronnie.

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