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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in Even though the New 52 and erased his most heinous acts, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, confirms he ''still'' tried to kill Bruce, Dick, and Tim at different points in the past; he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.them.
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* SignatureSeriesArc: Since ''Under the Red Hood'', any time that a DarkerAndEdgier Batman {{Expy}} appears on any Batman adaptation, nine out of ten times Jason will be under the mask.

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* SignatureSeriesArc: Since He has two: '' A Death in the Family'' which helped launch the Batman comics into the UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks while has a lasting impression in the Batman mythos, and ''Under The Red Hood'' for defining his new characterization as the AntiVillain Red Hood'', any time that a DarkerAndEdgier Hood, while becoming one of the most acclaimed Batman {{Expy}} appears on any Batman adaptation, nine out of ten times Jason will be under the mask.stories.

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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are begging for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker.

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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are begging for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker.Creator/TroyBaker thanks to ''Arkham Knight''.



** For those who don't like Grant Morrison's portrayal of Jason, he has another one in ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman, as he became a SociopathicHero killing petty criminals while shamelessly promoting his evildoings on TV. Not to mention wearing a [[FashionVictimVillain pillhead helmet and costume that looks like its Frank Castle's pajamas and drawn so ugly]] his female fanbase cried foul and pretends he is still TallDarkAndHandsome until the reboot happened.



** Also has a following in the Video Game fandom, thanks to his appearance in ''Arkham Knight'' and his somewhat EnsembleDarkhorse status in VideoGame/Injustice2

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** Also has a following in the Video Game fandom, fandom thanks to his appearance in ''Arkham Knight'' and his somewhat EnsembleDarkhorse status in VideoGame/Injustice2



* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell. Averted outside the comics where he is incredibly popular and demanded in media at best and a BaseBreakingCharacter at worst.

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** His appearance in ''Battle For The Cowl'' is regarded as one of his lowest moments by a lot of fans.
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** His appearance in ''Battle For The Cowl'' is regarded as one of his lowest moments by a lot of fans. \n[[note]]Contrary to popular belief, the story is not written by Grant Morrison, but rather Tony Daniel[[/note]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has him gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals make fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]
* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have him gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals make fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]
* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are hoping begging for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker.



** His appearance in ''Battle For The Cowl'' is regarded as one of his lowest moments by a lot of fans. [[note]]Contrary to popular belief, the story is not written by Grant Morrison, but rather Tony Daniel[[/note]]

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** His appearance in ''Battle For The Cowl'' is regarded as one of his lowest moments by a lot of fans.
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** Also has a following in the Video Game fandom, thanks to his appearance in ''Arkham Knight'' and his somewhat EnsembleDarkhorse status in VideoGame/Injustice2
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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works.

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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: His return as the Red Hood returned him to relevancy and gained him new fans. Although he seems to be rotating in and out of this and TheScrappy after his resurrection.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After years of [[KilledOffForReal being dead]], His return as the Red Hood returned him to relevancy and gained him new fans. Although he seems to be rotating in and out of this and TheScrappy after his resurrection.resurrection since writers tend to write him differently and see what sticks.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: His return as the Red Hood returned him to relevancy and gained him new fans. Although he seems to be rotating in and out of this and TheScrappy after his resurrection.

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* CargoShip: Jason and crowbar for the morbidly curious. It’s even become a trope {{Inverse}} that Jason would always get beaten with a crowbar or use the crowbar against someone else. Not to mention he uses one as his main weapon in ''Outlaw''



* DorkAge: Hey, remember the time Jason became a tentacle monster? [[FanonDiscontinuity Neither do everyone else...]]

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Hey, remember the time Jason became a tentacle monster? [[FanonDiscontinuity Neither do everyone else...]]]]
** His appearance in ''Battle For The Cowl'' is regarded as one of his lowest moments by a lot of fans. [[note]]Contrary to popular belief, the story is not written by Grant Morrison, but rather Tony Daniel[[/note]]


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* NeverLiveItDown: His death at the hands of ComicBook/TheJoker, which is both {{Inverse}} and to all comic fans. He's also got his general impulsive {{Jerkass}} demeanor that made him a solid [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and is the very reason why he was killed

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* PeripheryDemographic: He has quite a large female fanbase thanks to being a DarkerAndEdgier PrettyBoy with daddy issues (and many others) and was voiced by Creator/JensenAckles in his animated movie. Website/{{Tumblr}} apparently loves him.



** Before his resurrection in ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Under The Red Hood]]'', he's been this ever since Post-Crisis to the point that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller), a lot of people thought that the vote was for the first Robin, Dick Grayson, who was excessively popular amongst a lot of fans, and that's not a rumor.

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** Before his resurrection in ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Under The Red Hood]]'', he's been this ever since Post-Crisis Jason Todd was hated by quite a few readers to the point that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller), a lot of people thought that the vote was for the first Robin, Dick Grayson, who was excessively popular amongst a lot of fans, and that's not a rumor.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]
* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his him gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes make fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]
* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.


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** Before his resurrection in ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Under The Red Hood]]'', he's been this ever since Post-Crisis to the point that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller), a lot of people thought that the vote was for the first Robin, Dick Grayson, who was excessively popular amongst a lot of fans, and that's not a rumor.

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A few negligible references does not make My Real Daddy. Most adaptations borrow heavily from Winick's works, or from Jason's time as Robin prior to Death in the Family


* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have his gain this status to the readers. After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one interpretation. Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics, started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have has his gain this status to the readers. After Even after his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one Winnick's interpretation. Then This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics, comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The New 52 addressed this by retconning away his more heinous acts.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The It's noticeable in New 52 addressed this by retconning away and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his more heinous acts.complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.



** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal Red Hood Arsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.
* MyRealDaddy: Although Jason "the dead Robin" Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium.
** For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.** For those who don't give him the DracoinLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow since the start of the new Millenium thanks to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal Red Hood Arsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.
* MyRealDaddy: Although Jason "the dead Robin" Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium.
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** For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.** For those who don't give him the DracoinLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
Ever since the start of New 52, the new Millenium thanks comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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Jason multiple appearances through the N52 onward make abundantly clear than the events of Battle for the Cowl, Countdown, Streets Run Red, Red Hood Lost Days and even part of Morrison's run are no longer canon. Injustice 2 includes references to the All Caste and Jason's appearances in most crossovers, guest appearances and fan works take RHATO's version as the baseline.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have his gain this status to the readers. Even after After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his inconsistent portrayals makes characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's one interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics comics, started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in The New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite addressed this by retconning away his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.more heinous acts.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In the post-Flashpoint timeline, his own writers adopt this "killing is cool" stance.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. people.
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In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the post-Flashpoint timeline, flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his own writers adopt this "killing is cool" stance.attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal Red Hood Arsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.



** For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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** For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.** For those who don't give him the DracoinLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Ever Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
since the New 52, start of the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due new Millenium thanks to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.



* {{Squick}}: Talia kissing Jason and having sex with him in ''Lost Days'' is this to a lot of readers, considering the age gap, the parent-child dynamic that both share, the fact that Bruce is Jason's adopted father and who fans consider to be Talia's love interest.

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* {{Squick}}: Talia kissing Jason and having sex with him in ''Lost Days'' is this to a lot of readers, considering the age gap, the parent-child dynamic that both share, the fact that Bruce is Jason's adopted father and who fans consider to be being Talia's love interest.
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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal Red Hood Arsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.

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Misuse of My Real Daddy, other edits are completely inaccurate (e.g., Lobdell's writing has nothing in common with other media portrayals)


* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have his gain this status to the readers. After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one interpretation. Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have has his gain this status to the readers. After Even after his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one Winnick's interpretation. Then This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The New 52 addressed this by retconning away his more heinous acts.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The It's noticeable in New 52 addressed this by retconning away and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his more heinous acts.complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In the post-Flashpoint timeline, his own writers adopt this "killing is cool" stance.



** For those who don't give him the DracoinLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow since the start of the new Millenium thanks to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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** For those who don't give him the DracoinLeatherPants DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
Ever since the start of New 52, the new Millenium thanks comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have his gain this status to the readers. Even after After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his inconsistent portrayals makes characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's one interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in The New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite addressed this by retconning away his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.more heinous acts.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In the post-Flashpoint timeline, his own writers adopt this "killing is cool" stance.
* MyRealDaddy: Although Jason "the dead Robin" Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium.
** For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. people.
**
In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the post-Flashpoint timeline, flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his own writers adopt this "killing is cool" stance.
* MyRealDaddy:
attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal Red Hood Arsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.
*MyRealDaddy:
Although Jason "the dead Robin" Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium.
** For **For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants DracoinLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison was the last writer to do justice with Jason.
** Creator/ScottLobdell is the writer to work the longest with Jason -eight years and counting-, so naturally, his take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Ever Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
since the New 52, start of the comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due new Millenium thanks to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in [[https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/cms/filer_public/71/6a/716ad635-8c37-4a17-a895-e809d6580bce/poll_closed_1280x720.jpg recent]] [[https://imgur.com/NiLXZrJ replications]] of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have his gain this status to the readers. After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one interpretation. Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have has his gain this status to the readers. After Even after his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one Winnick's interpretation. Then This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The New 52 addressed this by retconning away his more heinous acts.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The It's noticeable in New 52 addressed this by retconning away and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his more heinous acts.complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. \n** In a subversion, a good amount of the post-Flashpoint timeline, his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This own writers adopt this "killing is better exemplified by his attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids. cool" stance.



** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow since the start of the new Millenium thanks to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
Ever since the start of New 52, the new Millenium thanks comic version is often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have his gain this status to the readers. Even after After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his inconsistent portrayals makes characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's one interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in The New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite addressed this by retconning away his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.more heinous acts.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In the post-Flashpoint timeline, his own words adopt this "killing is cool" stance.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
**
In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the post-Flashpoint timeline, flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative. This is better exemplified by his own words adopt this "killing is cool" stance.attempts to redeem Duela in ''[[ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal]]'' and his approach with the Generation Outlaw kids.



* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Ever Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
since the New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due start of the new Millenium thanks to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.
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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In the post-Flashpoint timeline, his own words adopt this "killing is cool" stance.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have his gain this status to the readers. After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one interpretation. Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have has his gain this status to the readers. After Even after his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one Winnick's interpretation. Then This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The New 52 addressed this by retconning away his more heinous acts.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The It's noticeable in New 52 addressed this by retconning away and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his more heinous acts.complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.



** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative.



** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow since the start of the new Millenium thanks to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
Ever since the start of the new Millenium thanks New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin. CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have his gain this status to the readers. Even after After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his inconsistent portrayals makes characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's one interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in The New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite addressed this by retconning away his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.more heinous acts.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. In post-Flashpoint, some writers also take the "killing is cool" stance.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. people.
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In post-Flashpoint, some writers also take a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the "killing is cool" stance.flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative.



* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.
* TheScrappy: Ever Jason has always been a very divisive character since his inception, constantly seen as a poor replacement for Dick as Robin, and after his resurrection, as a poor man's ComicBook/Punisher.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: However his popularity has done nothing but grow
since the New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in ''his own book'', often due start of the new Millenium thanks to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.N52 and Rebirth finally giving him a proper characterization and direction. He has become one of the most requested characters every time a new Batman adaptation is announced, has gotten a sudden influx of merchandise and in recent replications of the infamous poll that ended his life in the 80s made by [[Creator/DCComics DC's Streaming Service]] , "Live" has won by a comfortable margin.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have his gain this status to the readers. After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one interpretation. Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have has his gain this status to the readers. After Even after his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his characterization was all over the place making inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to one Winnick's interpretation. Then This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The New 52 addressed this by retconning away his more heinous acts.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. The It's noticeable in New 52 addressed this by retconning away and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his more heinous acts.complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life life, and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
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people. In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing post-Flashpoint, some writers also take the flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative."killing is cool" stance.



** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in official material and fanworks.

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** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances * TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, he's often considered to be this, even in official material and fanworks. ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has have his gain this status to the readers. Even after After his resurrection, the lack of a clear editorial direction meant his inconsistent portrayals makes characterization was all over the place making fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's one interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since Then the New 52 began and finally gave him a clear direction, with the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in The New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite addressed this by retconning away his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.more heinous acts.



* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. Unfortunately, some writers, especially in post-Flashpoint, also subscribe to the "killing is cool" stance.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people. Unfortunately, some writers, especially in post-Flashpoint, also subscribe to people.
** In a subversion, a good amount of his character arc Post Flashpoint has him realizing
the "killing is cool" stance.flaws behind the "kill the criminal" philosophy and looking for a better alternative.



* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, he's widely considered to be this, in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.
* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a SkunkStripe in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and was forgotten in the New 52 era.

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* TheScrappy: Ever since the New 52, he's widely considered to be this, ** Creator/ScottLobdell take on Red Hood has informed any and all of Red Hood's modern appearances in ''his own book'', often due to the CreatorsPet treatment he gets from Creator/ScottLobdell.
official material and fanworks.
* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a SkunkStripe in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and was forgotten in the New 52 era.era.
* SignatureSeriesArc: Since ''Under the Red Hood'', any time that a DarkerAndEdgier Batman {{Expy}} appears on any Batman adaptation, nine out of ten times Jason will be under the mask.
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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as reason why Batman should kill people. Unfortunately, some writers, especially in post-Flashpoint, also subscribe to the "killing is cool" stance.

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* MisaimedFandom: Much like with ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fail to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life, and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as reason why Batman should kill would be "cooler" if he killed people. Unfortunately, some writers, especially in post-Flashpoint, also subscribe to the "killing is cool" stance.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.


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** He's considered this for Jason so much so that even Grant Morrison himself couldn't quite pull off a Red Hood story in the eyes of most fans.

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** He's considered this for Jason so much so that even For those who don't give him the DracoInLeatherPants treatment, Grant Morrison himself couldn't quite pull off a Red Hood story in was the eyes of most fans.last writer to do justice with Jason.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers has his gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals makes fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything.]]



* FashionVictimVillain: In his AntiVillain days in Grant Morrison's Batman, his "superhero" costume gets derided by fans. [[https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/142843/4593976-9444019049-11338.jpg Kinda understandable why, since he looks like a walking pill medicine.]]



* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a SkunkStripe in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and was forgotten in the New 52 era.

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* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a SkunkStripe in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and was forgotten in the New 52 era.era.
* {{Squick}}: Talia kissing Jason and having sex with him in ''Lost Days'' is this to a lot of readers, considering the age gap, the parent-child dynamic that both share, the fact that Bruce is Jason's adopted father and who fans consider to be Talia's love interest.
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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works.

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* CantUnhearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood to the point that fans are hoping for him to be cast in future works.works.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as he is only killing criminals who deserves it. Never mind that he attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim and Damian many times and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[Comicbook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Battle for the cowl]]. It's noticeable in New 52 and Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws where despite his complete murderous past being intact, he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by the other Batfamily members.
* DorkAge: Hey, remember the time Jason became a tentacle monster? [[FanonDiscontinuity Neither do everyone else...]]
* JerkassWoobie: Out of all the Robins, he has it the worst considering that he grew up on the streets, had his foster mother (drugs), his father (killed by Two-Face/[[Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws Penguin]]), his real mother (Joker), and his adopted father (Batman, really lost in time but he didn't know that) all die on him, had his real mother betray him to the Joker when he tried to help her, was brutally beaten and then blown up by the Joker, was resurrected without his memories and forced to dig his way out of his grave and live on the streets, was dunked in a Lazarus Pit to regain his memories, found out that his adopted father had failed to avenge his death, was "betrayed" again when Batman attacked him to stop him from killing the Joker.
* MyRealDaddy: Although Jason "the dead Robin" Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium.
**He's considered this for Jason so much so that even Grant Morrison himself couldn't quite pull off a Red Hood story in the eyes of most fans.
* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a SkunkStripe in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and was forgotten in the New 52 era.
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