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* QuestionableCasting: Both movies run heavily on this trope, with aging, serious, Academy Award nominated/winning actors like Creator/JohnMalkovich, Creator/HelenMirren, Creator/MorganFreeman and Creator/AnthonyHopkins kicking ass in an action-comedy.



* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Joe]]. [[spoiler: Twice]].

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* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Joe]]. [[spoiler: Twice]].Joe. Twice.]]



* WTHCastingAgency: Both movies run heavily on this trope, with aging, serious, Academy Award nominated/winning actors like Creator/JohnMalkovich, Creator/HelenMirren, Creator/MorganFreeman and Creator/AnthonyHopkins kicking ass in an action-comedy.
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* AcceptableTargets: In both films, the protagonists usually refrain from killing law enforcement officers and other mooks simply doing their jobs. However, in the sequel, they freely gun down numerous Iranian embassy guards, who are described as hardcore Revolutionary Guard extremists.
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!!! YMMV for the ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/{{RED}}''

* TearJerker: Too many to list. Most notably [[spoiler:Sasuke being caught with Sakura in her family's basement and being dragged away to the concentration camp]], [[spoiler:Itachi being betrayed by the doctor he thought he could trust and escaping back to his hideout only to find his sick lover has been murdered]] and [[spoiler:Yahiko's death]].
** [[spoiler:Itachi's death in chapter 21]] takes the cake.
-->Sasuke howls.
** Just when you think it's safe, just when you think the story will head in a different path from ''Literature/TheBookThief'', just when things are starting to look up again, [[spoiler:the bombs drop]].
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!!! YMMV for the comic book Red

* {{Anvilicious}}: Expected of Creator/WarrenEllis' work. This one has one for each major character:
** Paul Moses: [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanaticism]] is as self-destructive as it is generally destructive.
** Michael Beesley: [[DemocracyIsBad Democracy Is Especially Bad]] when intelligence is vital to a job.
** Adrian Kane: refusing to acknowledge the past condemns people to repeat it.
** Sally: being IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance always turns out to be ''painful''.
* InformedAttractiveness: Sally

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!!! YMMV for the comic book Red

* {{Anvilicious}}: Expected of Creator/WarrenEllis' work. This one has one for each major character:
** Paul Moses: [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanaticism]] is as self-destructive as it is generally destructive.
** Michael Beesley: [[DemocracyIsBad Democracy Is Especially Bad]] when intelligence is vital to a job.
** Adrian Kane: refusing to acknowledge the past condemns people to repeat it.
** Sally: being IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance always turns out to be ''painful''.
* InformedAttractiveness: Sally

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!!! YMMV for the band Music/{{Red}}
* AlternateAesopInterpretation: "Breathe Into Me" is clearly supposed to be about giving yourself over to God when you're in your DarkestHour, but to some it could just as easily be interpreted as a person SlowlySlippingIntoEvil and crossing the MoralEventHorizon by willingly surrendering their mind and body to a malevolent force that only wants to use or possess them.
* AudienceAlienatingEra: ''Release the Panic'', most notably for dropping their signature strings in exchange for being 'RED-lite' and having more mainstream accessibility.
* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Re-Calibrated version of ''Release the Panic''. It added their signature strings back to a number of tracks, possibly in a realization of the negative fan reception of the original ''Release the Panic'' album. Songs like the title track, "Hold Me Now", and "Glass House" are the largest benefiters.
* GrowingTheBeard: ''Innocence & Instinct'', which was highly praised and rated for improving upon their already good debut ''End of Silence''. Arguably done a second time from ''Release the Panic'' to ''Of Beauty & Rage''.
* PeripheryDemographic: Like Music/{{Skillet}}, they are a Christian band that has a number of non-Christian fans.
* SophomoreSlump: Inverted. ''Innocence & Instinct'', their second album, is widely considered by the fandom to be one of RED's best albums.
* TearJerker: Where to begin...
** "Pieces":
--> I tried so hard\\
Thought I could do this on my own\\
I've lost so much along the way
** [[DespairEventHorizon "Buried Beneath"]]:
--> Thought I was climbing out\\
But it's dragging me down\\
What's hidden here with me\\
Thought I was alone\\
But it pulls me deeper now\\
I can't escape
** "Darkest Part":
--> I never wanted you to see\\
The darkest part of me\\
I knew you’d run away
** "Hymn for the Missing" may be THE single biggest tear-jerker in their entire catalog.
-->I tried to walk together\\
But the night was growing dark\\
Thought you were beside me\\
But I reached and you were gone\\
Sometimes I hear you calling\\
From some lost and distant shore\\
I hear you crying softly for the way it was before
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Foe Yay has been cut


* FoeYay: Frank and Cooper. Slightly disturbingly, though arguably less foe-ish, Cooper and the elderly archivist.
-->'''Frank:''' Six one, cute hair?\\
'''Archivist:''' Hair was cute!
** They could quite easily just be mocking the younger agent, who clearly spends a bit of time in front of the mirror every morning styling his hair.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: ''Release the Panic'', most notably for dropping their signature strings in exchange for being 'RED-lite' and having more mainstream accessibility.



* DorkAge: ''Release the Panic'', most notably for dropping their signature strings in exchange for being 'RED-lite' and having more mainstream accessibility.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The European Spanish dub changes "Retired, Extremely Dangerous" to the Spanish translation of "Retired Spy Network" so the RED acronym can be kept.
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Success Through Insanity is not a YMMV trope


* SuccessThroughInsanity: Boggs, he keeps a ''grenade launcher'' in a ''stuffed pig'' he carries everywhere; and even uses the grenade launcher as a baseball bat to hit a grenade back at an attacker - and that's before he [[spoiler:shoots an RPG round ''dead-on''. Also, his ProperlyParanoid streak helps the group anticipate and deal with or escape several encounters.]]
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** Paul Moses screams how [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanaticism]] is as self-destructive as it is generally destructive.
** Michael Beesley screams how [[DemocracyIsBad Democracy Is Especially Bad]] when intelligence is vital to a job.
** Adrian Kane screams how refusing to acknowledge the past condemns people to repeat it.
** Sally screams how ''painful'' being IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance always turns out to be.

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** Paul Moses screams how Moses: [[WellIntentionedExtremist fanaticism]] is as self-destructive as it is generally destructive.
** Michael Beesley screams how Beesley: [[DemocracyIsBad Democracy Is Especially Bad]] when intelligence is vital to a job.
** Adrian Kane screams how Kane: refusing to acknowledge the past condemns people to repeat it.
** Sally screams how ''painful'' Sally: being IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance always turns out to be.be ''painful''.

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